# Rick and Morty -- the new animated show from Dan Harmon and Justin Roiland **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, cartoons-animation\ **Created:** [January 21, 2014, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380 "2014-01-21T17:43:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 21
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/401 "2017-09-12T11:59:15Z")
> [@Annoying\_Buzz](#): > > Yes. The stinger was the bodies of everyone who’d been killed in the episode floating in space around the Citadel, and next to Campaign Manager Morty were the photos he’d been given, which were of Evil Morty. Maybe I missed something; but: who was that guy? No, not Campaign Manager Morty; Trench Coat Rick. Is he supposed to be an independent operator who somehow found out the truth, _man,_ or is he supposed to have been doing the bidding of Evil Morty, or something else; or are we not supposed to know yet, but we’ll presumably find out in a later episode; or was he maybe just meant to have been a plot device instead of a character, only showing up to move the story along with no need to get referenced again? ---
**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/402 "2017-09-12T13:24:58Z")
I was so happy for the return of Evil Morty, you guys. I picked up that it was him when he fired the campaign manager. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/403 "2017-09-12T17:44:51Z")
“Seems like a good time for a drink… and a cold, calculated speech with sinister overtones.” ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/404 "2017-09-12T18:26:43Z")
Just watched it last night. That was a great episode. ---
**Author:** ![Annoying\_Buzz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Annoying\_Buzz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annoying_Buzz)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2017, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/405 "2017-09-15T06:33:08Z")
I have to wonder why the Ricks would even come to the Citadel if life there was so miserable and pointless compared to what they were capable of doing. Had they boned their own worlds so badly (or were being hunted by the Federation so relentlessly) that there was was nowhere else to go? Or were they lured in and shanghaied into becoming menial laborers with no means of escape? Or of all the infinite Ricks, are we just seeing the minute (but nonetheless still infinite) sliver that actually prefer being assigned a job over a life of independence and adventure? ---
**Author:** ![Annoying\_Buzz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Annoying\_Buzz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annoying_Buzz)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2017, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/406 "2017-09-15T06:42:57Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > As was pointed out elsewhere, this is not this Rick’s original body. He mind swapped a bunch and ended up in a high level Rick body, which might explain all the implants. Though after the Toxic Rick episode, he may have lost the implants. During the fight inside the house, he appears to get poisoned, die, then have his body regenerated. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2017, 9:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/407 "2017-09-15T09:36:45Z")
> [@Annoying\_Buzz](#): > > I have to wonder why the Ricks would even come to the Citadel if life there was so miserable and pointless compared to what they were capable of doing. Had they boned their own worlds so badly (or were being hunted by the Federation so relentlessly) that there was was nowhere else to go? Or were they lured in and shanghaied into becoming menial laborers with no means of escape? > > Or of all the infinite Ricks, are we just seeing the minute (but nonetheless still infinite) sliver that actually prefer being assigned a job over a life of independence and adventure? It feels pretty heavily implied that the ricks there don’t _want_ to live like that. Plumber Rick did not come to the citadel to be a plumber. Hillbilly rick is making bootleg portal juice. The police rick seem to, on some level, understand what terrorist rick is talking about. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2017, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/408 "2017-09-15T13:24:46Z")
> [@Annoying\_Buzz](#): > > Or of all the infinite Ricks, are we just seeing the minute (but nonetheless still infinite) sliver that actually prefer being assigned a job over a life of independence and adventure? The Ricks that we follow are not infinite. The counsel Ricks and Ricks that invent the portal guns and go on adventures are the Ricks of the ‘Central Finite Curve’. I don’t think that all dimensions have a Rick. ETA: Another thing that came up in this episode, why are all the Ricks and all the Mortys the same ages? You would think that there would be some wider distribution of their ages over all. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2017, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/409 "2017-09-15T13:51:32Z")
> [@Ike\_Witt](#): > > The Ricks that we follow are not infinite. The counsel Ricks and Ricks that invent the portal guns and go on adventures are the Ricks of the ‘Central Finite Curve’. I don’t think that all dimensions have a Rick. They can still be infinite. No matter what you divide infinity by, the result is still infinity. The Nerdist posted a theory this past week that Evil Morty was Our Rick’s original Morty. Basically, “Toxin-free Morty” was rather amoral, intelligent, and mature beyond his years, just like Evil Morty. In other words, without things like a conscience and self-doubt, Morty can rise to his fullest potential. The Mortyest Morty. Imagine if Morty had been raised by a loving, yet amoral Grandfather. A Morty raised in such an environment might grow up to be “healthy”. We’ve seen Rich have flashbacks to holding and playing with baby Morty, but according to the show, Rick was absent for twenty years. This discrepancy can be reconciled if Our Rick really did stay with Beth and helped raise Morty and Summer in Jerry’s absence. Afther Our Rick realized what Morty has become, he leaves for another dimension where the Rick died shortly after discovering Portal technology, which is where the show starts. That’s also why he treats Morty like shit, so he won’t grow up “healthy”. Only the Rickest Rick can have the Mortyest Morty. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2017, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/410 "2017-09-15T20:02:05Z")
Sound familiar?: [Adventure Time - Lemongrab - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7mixrO2lzA&t=109s) ---
**Author:** ![Annoying\_Buzz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Annoying\_Buzz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annoying_Buzz)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2017, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/411 "2017-09-17T01:24:57Z")
I think what I found most disturbing about the Toxic Rick episode is that Rick evidently considers his concern for Morty’s well-being to be a toxic aspect of his personality. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2017, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/412 "2017-09-17T13:18:03Z")
> [@Annoying\_Buzz](#): > > I think what I found most disturbing about the Toxic Rick episode is that Rick evidently considers his concern for Morty’s well-being to be a toxic aspect of his personality. That fits into the theory that **Maus Magill** mentioned. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2017, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/413 "2017-09-17T16:32:29Z")
One of the dead Rick’s floating out at the end was the trenchcoat Rick that gave campaign manager Morty the pictures. That was a nice detail I thought. Grizzled old cop Morty speaking Morty to the street Mortys was hilarious and sad. ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2017, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/414 "2017-09-17T16:41:59Z")
Those Mortys “are more riled up that a picture day Jessica.” ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2017, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/415 "2017-09-17T17:35:48Z")
Also incredibly sad that the Citadel is a total sausage fest, with only Ricks and Mortys. You’d think they’d want some females around for company. Edit: Of course, I think that was part of the juxtaposition at the end of the episode. Our Rick and Morty spent their episode getting laid. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2017, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/416 "2017-09-17T17:44:20Z")
Well Rick is over 80 and Morty is 14 and infatuated with Jessica. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2017, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/417 "2017-09-17T20:53:45Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > Well Rick is over 80 and Morty is 14 and infatuated with Jessica. Both of them get action throughout the series. Rick with that hivemind, and Morty with the chick from Anatomy Park. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2017, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/418 "2017-09-17T21:33:22Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > Both of them get action throughout the series. Rick with that hivemind, and Morty with the chick from Anatomy Park. You forgot all that mermaid puss Morty got last episode. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2017, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/419 "2017-09-17T23:56:31Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > Also incredibly sad that the Citadel is a total sausage fest, with only Ricks and Mortys. You’d think they’d want some females around for company. Didn’t the sequence at The Creepy Morty rather heavily imply that there’s a lot of gay incest going on in the Citadel? (And one of the four Mortys seeking the Wishing Portal mentioned incest.) Anyway: this one is going to sell a lot of DVDs–so many Easter Eggs packed into it! I particularly loved that one of the candidate Ricks was the “Rent is Too Damn High” guy (in Rick form, of course). The teleplay’s set-up of future plot developments was masterful. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2017, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/420 "2017-09-18T03:35:23Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > You forgot all that mermaid puss Morty got last episode. And Morty with his sexbot. :: chugs orange juice :: “Well, back to… uh, back upstairs!” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380.md?page=20) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380.md?page=22)