# Rick and Morty -- the new animated show from Dan Harmon and Justin Roiland **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, cartoons-animation\ **Created:** [January 21, 2014, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380 "2014-01-21T17:43:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 29
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2019, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/562 "2019-06-03T21:46:51Z")
I’m rewatching the show and honestly, some of the season 1 episodes are great. I’d barely remembered some of them. I wish I knew a show as good as this. Just love it. ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2019, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/563 "2019-06-12T01:34:13Z")
If anyone needs an immediate fix, pick up the game [Trover Saves the Universe](https://www.troversavestheuniverse.com/). It’s not Rick & Morty, exactly, but it’s _completely_ Rick & Morty. Watch some clips on YouTube, you’ll understand what I mean almost immediately. ---
**Author:** ![Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/face_intentionally_left_blank/32/288_2.png) [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2019, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/564 "2019-06-12T05:18:15Z")
> [@DCnDC](#): > > If anyone needs an immediate fix, pick up the game [Trover Saves the Universe](https://www.troversavestheuniverse.com/). It’s not Rick & Morty, exactly, but it’s _completely_ Rick & Morty. Watch some clips on YouTube, you’ll understand what I mean almost immediately. I missed this somehow, thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Smid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/838e76/32.png) [@Smid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smid)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2019, 9:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/565 "2019-06-12T09:18:13Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > I’m rewatching the show and honestly, some of the season 1 episodes are great. I’d barely remembered some of them. Once it gets going, it is as good quality as the rest of the seasons. The first episode is in effect a completely different show, trying to set up the whole show, but losing the characters. First few weren’t quite as good. To me the Cronenberg episode is the first great R&M episode > [@](#): > > I wish I knew a show as good as this. Just love it. First three seasons of Community, also Dan Harmon’s show. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2019, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/566 "2019-06-13T12:50:46Z")
Is anyone currently watching or recording the Adult Swim 11 PM showings? I have a specific reason for asking - I moved and got a new DVR last month. Luckily, Adult Swim currently has all the episodes in rotation. However, the last few recordings (starting Saturday night, I think), have been blank. As in 30 minutes of a black screen with no audio. It’s not a DVR or channel issue - the Bob’s Burgers episodes on that channel an hour earlier are recording fine, every other show on the DVR is recording fine. No Parental controls are turned on. Haven’t remembered to watch it live at 11 to see if anything happens. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Santos\_L\_Halper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/santos_l_halper/32/1_2.png) [@Santos\_L\_Halper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Santos_L_Halper)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/567 "2019-07-20T07:36:16Z")
Adult Swim’s released the first clip from season four: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/VlgZi1UHk_E/maxresdefault.jpg "Rick and Morty Season 4: Glootie | adult swim") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlgZi1UHk_E) ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 7:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/568 "2019-07-20T07:40:01Z")
This totally fucking rocks! Except for Jerry. Jerry sucks. ---
**Author:** ![BobBitchin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7ea924/32.png) [@BobBitchin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobBitchin)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 8:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/569 "2019-07-20T08:10:20Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > This totally fucking rocks! Except for Jerry. Jerry sucks. :DPffft, you probably don’t even like human music either.:rolleyes: I totally agree with the rocking ---
**Author:** ![Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/face_intentionally_left_blank/32/288_2.png) [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 10:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/570 "2019-07-20T10:31:16Z")
[quote=“Santos\_L\_Halper, post:567, topic:679380”] Adult Swim’s released the first clip from season four: [/QUOTE] Oh man. . .Oh, geez. . . like, I dunno if I should watch this, knowing, like, I won’t see any more until November. What. . .what if I REALLY wanna see more new stuff, an-and there isn’t any? Fuck it, I’ll watch it. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/571 "2019-07-20T14:23:32Z")
> [@BobBitchin](#): > > :DPffft, you probably don’t even like human music either.:rolleyes: I’m into grindcore and death metal so I’d bet there’s plenty of people who would say that no, I don’t like human music. 😃 Seriously, tho, I fucking hate Jerry. Kill him off now. Or just write him out of the show, like maybe he and Beth get divorced and then we only have to see him like once or twice a season in cameos. Fucking hate him. In real life, no one wants to be around a Jerry on purpose. ---
**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/572 "2019-07-20T23:26:57Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > I’m into grindcore and death metal so I’d bet there’s plenty of people who would say that no, I don’t like human music. 😃 > > Seriously, tho, I fucking hate Jerry. Kill him off now. Or just write him out of the show, like maybe he and Beth get divorced and then we only have to see him like once or twice a season in cameos. Fucking hate him. In real life, no one wants to be around a Jerry on purpose. I wouldn’t go that far. He’s a necessary comic foil to Rick and the other characters. That said, Jerry seemed to be a “regular guy” surrogate for the audience in the beginning but as the series has gone on, he has gotten a lot more unlikeable. You want to feel sorry for him at times but then you remember how weaselly he is. Also, Jerry is reminding more of George Costanza with each episode. He’s even starting to sound like him. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/573 "2019-07-20T23:31:32Z")
> [@NDP](#): > > I wouldn’t go that far. He’s a necessary comic foil to Rick and the other characters. That said, Jerry seemed to be a “regular guy” surrogate for the audience in the beginning but as the series has gone on, he has gotten a lot more unlikeable. You want to feel sorry for him at times but then you remember how weaselly he is. Also, Jerry is reminding more of George Costanza with each episode. He’s even starting to sound like him. Oh, I get his role in the pantheon. But yeah, he’s gotten more craven, more weaselly, more stupid with each season. I really thought they were going to be bold and have the divorce go thru, make him an occasional bit player. If they’d have done that for 2-3 seasons and THEN brought him back in as a regular, with some personal growth shown, it could have been seriously cool TV. But they went back to the original formula, prolly because it helps/enables Harmon’s “story circle” that apparently has to be adhered to at all times. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/574 "2019-07-20T23:31:45Z")
Jerry seems a pretty necessary part of the dynamic, to me. You’ve got Rick–supremely confident–contrasted with Jerry–supremely insecure. Morty has these two potential role models to choose between. That’s over-simplifying it massively, but even so: without Jerry, they’d need to introduce some other uncertain, fretful, anxious adult character to keep the balance. Uncertain, fretful, anxious Morty has been designed to be the character with an arc: he starts out like his father. Will he remain that way, or be influenced by Rick? Will he go as far in the ‘confident’ direction as Evil Morty? Or find something in between? I mean, isn’t that the plot of the show? ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/575 "2019-07-20T23:37:06Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > Morty has these two potential role models to choose between. No. This dynamic does not exist in the show. No one wants to be like Jerry. Jerry doesn’t even want to be like Jerry. > [@Sherrerd](#): > > That’s over-simplifying it massively, but even so: without Jerry, they’d need to introduce some other uncertain, fretful, anxious character to keep the balance. Morty is the uncertain, fretful, anxious character that balances Rick. That’s the whole point of his character; the fun is watching him grow as a person and in watching Rick grow as he becomes less like himself because of his fondness/need for Morty. Jerry is superfluous except as a source of stupidity and as something to hate; he is a permanent and irredeemable foil. And again, in real life, people do not hang out with Jerrys on purpose: they are a drag. ETA: Nice edits while I was typing my post. > [@Sherrerd](#): > > I mean, isn’t that the plot of the show? IMO, no. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2019, 9:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/576 "2019-07-21T09:34:14Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Jerry is superfluous except as a source of stupidity and as something to hate; I thought that _was_ his purpose on the show. > [@](#): > > And again, in real life, people do not hang out with Jerrys on purpose: they are a drag. So, just like in the show, then… ---
**Author:** ![BobBitchin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7ea924/32.png) [@BobBitchin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobBitchin)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2019, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/577 "2019-07-21T17:37:48Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > I’m into grindcore and death metal so I’d bet there’s plenty of people who would say that no, I don’t like human music. 😃 > > Seriously, tho, I fucking hate Jerry. Kill him off now. Or just write him out of the show, like maybe he and Beth get divorced and then we only have to see him like once or twice a season in cameos. Fucking hate him. In real life, no one wants to be around a Jerry on purpose. Jerry doesn’t push MY buttons, but I get it.😃 At my house we call that a GILLIGAN. A character so bad any reasonable person would kill them rather than be subject to their stupidity. It also covers bad writing, like when the make Sheldon (TBBT) clueless just for a joke. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2019, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/578 "2019-07-21T22:37:14Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally Posted by Sherrerd: > Morty has these two potential role models to choose between. > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > No. This dynamic does not exist in the show. No one wants to be like Jerry. Jerry doesn’t even want to be like Jerry. > Morty is the uncertain, fretful, anxious character that balances Rick. That’s the whole point of his character; the fun is watching him grow as a person and in watching Rick grow as he becomes less like himself because of his fondness/need for Morty. > > Jerry is superfluous except as a source of stupidity and as something to hate; he is a permanent and irredeemable foil. And again, in real life, people do not hang out with Jerrys on purpose: they are a drag. > > ETA: Nice edits while I was typing my post. I get that you hate Jerry. (Also that you apparently feel that edits made while you are typing constitute a personal assault on you. That doesn’t strike you as a rather self-involved reaction? At all?) But, yes, a person’s father is _at least_ a role model to be rejected, if not a role model to be followed. It doesn’t make psychological sense for someone’s father, in a nuclear family, to be summarily dismissed as “superfluous” by members of that family. They might hate him; they might despise him. They might _declare_ that he’s “superfluous” as a way of demonstrating their contempt. But their contempt comes from the fact that they feel _he’s failing to fulfill the role he should fulfill_. The fact that there is such a role means that the father is not superfluous; the expectations about that role are there whether the father meets them or not. The father is important, whether in a negative way or a positive way. That’s human psychology. And this show is successful, in part, because _it doesn’t ignore human psychology_. ---
**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2019, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/579 "2019-07-21T22:39:02Z")
> [@BobBitchin](#): > > Jerry doesn’t push MY buttons, but I get it.😃 > > At my house we call that a GILLIGAN. A character so bad any reasonable person would kill them rather than be subject to their stupidity. At least Gilligan was a nice guy. Jerry, as I mentioned in my previous post, is a COSTANZA. That’s a character who’s not only stupid but also a weasel and a coward. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/580 "2019-07-22T01:34:05Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > I get that you hate Jerry. (Also that you apparently feel that edits made while you are typing constitute a personal assault on you. That doesn’t strike you as a rather self-involved reaction? At all?) No. I wrote that so that it would be clear that I quoted you before you made those edits; to be clear that I did not alter the text in a quote box. ETA: I disagree with the rest of your post. The character is stupid and the show would be better without him, IMO. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/581 "2019-07-22T02:26:46Z")
My $.02 that nobody asked for: I like Jerry. I like to hate him. The meseeks episode wouldn’t be nearly as great if not for him. And he chose the SENSIBLE problem for them to solve! He just sucked SO much, hilarity ensued. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380.md?page=28) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380.md?page=30)