# Rick and Morty -- the new animated show from Dan Harmon and Justin Roiland **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, cartoons-animation\ **Created:** [January 21, 2014, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380 "2014-01-21T17:43:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 32
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2019, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/622 "2019-11-10T23:20:37Z")
> [@Dr.Colossus](#): > > …but last season, the show leaked across Reddit like a bad meme, and the fans there really did a lot towards ruining the show for me. For the first two seasons, there was some high-minded nuanced discussions breaking down elements of the episodes, which often contain extreme emotional depth. The Unity episode with the failed suicide at the end…stuff like that generated really great conversations. But then last season happened, and it’s just idiots screaming “I’M PICKLE RICK!!!” everywhere they can, like in political forums or anywhere else they could force it in. > > I don’t think it helps that the season had no definitive conclusion…iIrc the creators bickered or nitpicked the final episodes to a point they scrapped them, so the planned conclusion was replaced with just a middling episode. > … I hear you; last season wasn’t the equal of the other two, I don’t think. My defense of the showrunners would be that they are going for a big statement on the effect of Rick on Morty’s life via an extended look at Evil Morty. (Then again I could be wrong and we’ll never see or hear of Evil Morty again.) ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2019, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/623 "2019-11-10T23:41:20Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > I hear you; last season wasn’t the equal of the other two, I don’t think. I’d put REST AND RICKLAXATION/RICKLANTIS MIXUP/MORTY’S MIND BLOWERS up against any three-episode run from the other two seasons. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2019, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/624 "2019-11-11T00:06:59Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > I’d put REST AND RICKLAXATION/RICKLANTIS MIXUP/MORTY’S MIND BLOWERS up against any three-episode run from the other two seasons. I’d put those episodes up against any three episodes of TV last year. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2019, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/625 "2019-11-11T00:07:31Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > I’d put REST AND RICKLAXATION/RICKLANTIS MIXUP/MORTY’S MIND BLOWERS up against any three-episode run from the other two seasons. Well, those were great, I’ll concede. In some ways the writers have set themselves a difficult task, not only in coming up with great new sci-fi ideas and gags, but in carrying forward the family story. We’ve seen a lot of development in the relationships between the Smiths and Sanchez—much more development than is normal in comedy (or in cartoons). If anyone can pull it off, it’s this creative team, though. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Colossus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.colossus/32/9423_2.png) [@Dr.Colossus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Colossus)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2019, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/626 "2019-11-11T03:54:53Z")
I regret calling the final episode “middling.” I just laughed 20 minutes over “[what kind of death…](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsYaiJgtMSQ)” ---
**Author:** ![Smid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/838e76/32.png) [@Smid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smid)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2019, 11:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/627 "2019-11-11T11:14:17Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Does such a short season mean we’ll get more within the year? LOL. No. Sure if they’d kicked out a half season a year later than the last one. But they’ve taken this long to make 5. They’re not getting any quicker. The supposed golden age of TV seems to slow down most TV shows as they become successful. Rick and Morty. Better Call Saul skips a year. Game of thrones (ok, bad example, it was golden age, not now), skips a year, and does a short season. The reality is that the quality is there, but not the prolificacy. Superb first episode though… ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2019, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/628 "2019-11-11T19:25:14Z")
At least we find out that the trailer was referring to an ‘akita situation’. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Smid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/838e76/32.png) [@Smid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smid)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2019, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/629 "2019-11-11T19:31:40Z")
> [@Ike\_Witt](#): > > At least we find out that the trailer was referring to an ‘akita situation’. 😃 I heard Akira. Akira made sense in the context (powerful godlike killing machine) Akita is a dog, right? ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2019, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/630 "2019-11-11T19:56:54Z")
At least we find out that the trailer was referring to an ‘akita situation’. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2019, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/631 "2019-11-11T22:52:13Z")
I thoroughly enjoyed E1. I appreciated the minimal Jerry, but did not appreciate the return to hating Summer. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2019, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/632 "2019-11-11T23:52:21Z")
> [@Smid](#): > > I heard Akira. Akira made sense in the context (powerful godlike killing machine) > > Akita is a dog, right? Yeah, it was for sure Akira but at the end Jerry mentioned akita. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2019, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/633 "2019-11-12T00:14:42Z")
> [@Ike\_Witt](#): > > Yeah, it was for sure Akira but at the end Jerry mentioned akita. Is this a whoosh? At the end, Jerry talks about “anime stuff happening to my son”; and, if you listen to the slightly odd way he pronounces “ann-ee-may”, I think it retroactively makes his earlier remark clearer. Like, picture a guy saying he’s studied karate, but picture him pretentiously saying it _almost_ like it was “Kah-Da-Tay”. Try it a couple of times yourself: get a smug look on your face, and say: “I’ve studied [pause] Kah-Da-Tay.” And then, still in character, say your son was in an Akira situation; but (a) pause ever so slightly just before you say “Akira”, and then (b) say it as “Ah-Ki-Da”. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2019, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/634 "2019-11-12T00:20:09Z")
I had subtitles on. It was always Akira. ---
**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2019, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/635 "2019-11-12T00:42:21Z")
> [@Smid](#): > > LOL. No. > > Sure if they’d kicked out a half season a year later than the last one. But they’ve taken this long to make 5. They’re not getting any quicker. Or, they’ve taken this long to make 10, but they don’t want to show all 10 at once and then make everybody wait another who knows how long before the next one after that. Comedy Central did something similar with _Futurama_; they made 26 episodes at a time, then aired 13, waited a year, and aired the other 13. Anybody else notice the change in the Harmonious Claptrap screen in the closing credits? Looks like Dan Harmon’s life took a turn for the better. I assume the woman is Cody Heller. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2019, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/636 "2019-11-12T02:30:16Z")
> [@Smid](#): > > LOL. No. > > Sure if they’d kicked out a half season a year later than the last one. But they’ve taken this long to make 5. They’re not getting any quicker. Dan Harmon has said that the reason it took so long for season 4 to come out was a negotiation tactic with the network, who would only sign year-to-year contracts, so they stopped producing the show until they agreed to a multi-year deal. In theory, they’ll be released at a faster clip from now on, but who knows? ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2019, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/637 "2019-11-12T02:32:37Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > I had subtitles on. It was always Akira. I was watching one of the early presidential debates, where the subtitles referred to the Senator from New York as “Senator Gym Brand.” I wouldn’t take subtitles as authoritative, and Jerry confusing Akira for akita is delightfully in character for the poor dipshit. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2019, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/638 "2019-11-12T02:44:47Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > and Jerry confusing Akira for akita is delightfully in character for the poor dipshit. Which is exactly what I was thinking. He did get ‘anime’ but failed ‘Akira’. Totally a Jerry move. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2019, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/639 "2019-11-12T05:14:04Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > I was watching one of the early presidential debates, where the subtitles referred to the Senator from New York as “Senator Gym Brand.” I wouldn’t take subtitles as authoritative, and Jerry confusing Akira for akita is delightfully in character for the poor dipshit. Except that the subtitles for this show are from a script, not a live debate. C’mon. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2019, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/640 "2019-11-12T13:42:19Z")
I have no idea what you all are talking about with “akira” and “akita”. It was clearly “Carrot Top”. And the wasps eating Mr. Goldenfold was the best part of the episode. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2019, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/641 "2019-11-12T13:56:43Z")
> [@muldoonthief](#): > > And the wasps eating Mr. Goldenfold was the best part of the episode. I’m gonna have to go with Rick having to deal with an alarming number of fascist parallel worlds as the best part, as it felt like the sharpest jab at the toxic part of the fandom who think Rick is worth emulating and throw tantrums over chicken nugget sauce. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380.md?page=31) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380.md?page=33)