# Rick and Morty -- the new animated show from Dan Harmon and Justin Roiland

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, cartoons-animation\
**Created:** [January 21, 2014, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380 "2014-01-21T17:43:30Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 54

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2022, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/1062 "2022-09-15T17:03:23Z")

</div>

Finally saw the second episode and now I’m kinda mad that they seemed to have regressed Morty to his season 1 lapdog personality. Although I guess last season’s finale(s) started that backward journey what with Morty’s pathetic attempts to take Rick back from the crows.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Pavelb1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@Pavelb1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pavelb1)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2022, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/1063 "2022-09-16T16:05:52Z")

</div>

Much like ‘Time Travel in Endgame’…I try and make sense of the various multiverse permutations in Rick and Morty to help me drift off to sleep.

Still unanswered is: When did Rick Prime/Evil Rick abandon Beth Prime (now dead btw) and what happened to Diane Prime? And when did Our Rick/ C-137 Rick slide into Beth Primes life?

I lean towards early to explain Ricks antipathy to Jerry and how Rick knows so well that young Beth was a ‘monster’.

I suspect that Our Rick caught Rick Prime and that Rick Prime, ‘gave’ Our Rick his life with Beth and Diane knowing that Ricks are fuck-ups. Hence why Our Rick is so self-loathing. Maybe C-137 Rick abandoned Beth and Diane around the time Beth became pregnant.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2022, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/1064 "2022-09-17T03:20:37Z")

</div>

I don’t think there was any real connection to “The Enemy Within”; Kirk is split into his passive and aggressive sides, but the split parts of Morty are so many and so minuscule that they don’t really represent any aspect of his personality.

The whole planet-of-people-with-one-voice thing reminded me of _Anomalisa_, in which the main character (and we the viewers) hears everybody as the same person. Who knows if the writers saw _Anomalisa_ though. It’s more likely televisual shorthand to show that these are all supposed to be Morty (and because it’s funny to have the Morty voice coming from wildly different people.).

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2022, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/1065 "2022-09-17T23:05:48Z")

</div>

> [@De\_La\_Rue](#):
>
> I don’t think there was any real connection to “The Enemy Within”; Kirk is split into his passive and aggressive sides, but the split parts of Morty are so many and so minuscule that they don’t really represent any aspect of his personality.

The point of the comparison to “The Enemy Within” wasn’t the split, but instead the plot point that _the only way to get the split people to join back into one person was to do some particular action at the same time._ (In the Trek episode it was to have them go through the transporter together; in the R&M episode it was to have all the Morty-fragment characters board spacecraft and lift off together, aiming for the edge of the game so a reset would occur.)

> 

By the way, arguably another Trek influence in the episode comes from the _Next Generation_ episode “Ship in a Bottle.” The saving of the game via battery hook-up for the benefit of Marta-Morty, echoes the saving of a mini-universe (in a cube that sits on a desk!) for the benefit of Moriarty and his girlfriend. In each case, the characters are assumed to be able to live long lives in the worlds they have chosen, and/or enjoy.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2022, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/1066 "2022-09-19T05:57:26Z")

</div>

Well, this episode was weird. Has any franchise ever written its own slashfic before?

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/1067 "2022-09-20T00:05:45Z")

</div>

> [@Smapti](#):
>
> … Has any franchise ever written its own slashfic before?

Heh.

I guess it was an obvious plot development–and certainly one they’ve been ignoring for years (since the show began). Fourteen-year-old boy, confronted with his duplicate–who is also a fourteen-year-old boy? And a jaded solipsist (or nearly), confronted with his duplicate? How is it possible they _wouldn’t_ try this?

It’s not a new idea, of course. Just recently the truncated TV adaptation of _The Time Traveler’s Wife_ used this plot device (and leaned heavily on the idea that it was No Big Deal).

The application of the idea to Jerry was handled well, I thought.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/1068 "2022-09-20T00:46:01Z")

</div>

> [@Sherrerd](#):
>
> Fourteen-year-old boy, confronted with his duplicate–who is also a fourteen-year-old boy? And a jaded solipsist (or nearly), confronted with his duplicate? How is it possible they _wouldn’t_ try this?

Eh? I don’t recall any multiple Mortys in this episode - just Beth/Beth and implied Rick/Rick.

“Why, Discovery Channel, why?”

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/1069 "2022-09-20T00:48:01Z")

</div>

> [@Smapti](#):
>
> Eh? I don’t recall any multiple Mortys in this episode - just Beth/Beth and implied Rick/Rick.

I mean in the series as a whole.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Pavelb1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@Pavelb1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pavelb1)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/1070 "2022-09-20T05:57:21Z")

</div>

While i always appreciate the evolution of Jerry, and Beth realizing his multiple dimensions (Which is what makes “Rick Potion no.9” so sad way back in season one. Give us an apocalypse and Jerry shines.)…i had always assumed a multisexual Jerry-Beth-Beth thing was already going on right from when Jerry exclaimed “And i have two wives!” a season or two ago.

What made the whole ‘muffled convo while kids and Rick try and eat scene’ so funny was I didn’t try and hear exactly what they were talking about. So all i could hear was the occasional

Jerry: “…and I give you permission to do that too…”

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 9:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/1071 "2022-09-20T09:28:06Z")

</div>

> [@Pavelb1](#):
>
> What made the whole ‘muffled convo while kids and Rick try and eat scene’ so funny was I didn’t try and hear exactly what they were talking about.

I permit that.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/1072 "2022-09-20T15:18:59Z")

</div>

Hey, an obviously intentional _Star Trek_ reference! (With the holodeck.)

I was wondering about Tress MacNeille’s credit, then realized she was the Jerryboree worker at the end.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/1073 "2022-09-20T23:28:57Z")

</div>

So many entendres. My favorite: when Rick said to Beth “You do you”

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2022, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/1074 "2022-09-21T00:17:12Z")

</div>

> [@Andy\_L](#):
>
> My favorite: when Rick said to Beth “You do you”

Rick: “Thank your moms.”  
Morty:“Umm, thanks for… doing it.”

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2022, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/1075 "2022-09-21T20:12:34Z")

</div>

Just saw episode 3. It was been a bit of work avoiding spoilers because everybody had a lot to say about it on the interwebs. This is my first reaction without reading anybody’s take on it. The prolonged laugh I got at the end of it was worth the first ten minutes. Call back to Incest Baby made me laugh even harder.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![SmartAleq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smartaleq/32/163_2.png) [@SmartAleq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAleq)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2022, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/1076 "2022-09-21T20:51:27Z")

</div>

You really do! 🏆 🏆 🏆

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Pavelb1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@Pavelb1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pavelb1)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2022, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/1077 "2022-09-21T21:08:29Z")

</div>

Jerry places the last piece of the puzzle and seems to have an epiphany…but its a misdirect.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2022, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/1078 "2022-09-22T02:43:05Z")

</div>

> [@Sherrerd](#):
>
> I mean in the series as a whole.

Yep. The Citadel even had a Morty strip club frequented by Mortys (Morties?).

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2022, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/1079 "2022-09-23T00:04:35Z")

</div>

> [@alphaboi867](#):
>
> Yep. The Citadel even had a Morty strip club frequented by Mortys (Morties?). -

Maybe they gauged viewer reaction to that little offering before greenlighting the ‘Beth/Beth’ ep…

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Pavelb1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@Pavelb1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pavelb1)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2022, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/1080 "2022-09-26T06:28:41Z")

</div>

I guess they were doing kind of a Night of the Comet/ 80’s horror vibe here. But if theres a more direct analogy I don’t know what movie it would be.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2022, 7:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380/1081 "2022-09-26T07:38:24Z")

</div>

The action scenes owed a lot to the first two **Terminator** movies.

[Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380.md?page=53)

[Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-and-morty-the-new-animated-show-from-dan-harmon-and-justin-roiland/679380.md?page=55)
