# Rick Perry Indicted

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-perry-indicted/695656>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [August 16, 2014, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-perry-indicted/695656 "2014-08-16T00:55:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![bdgr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a87d85/32.png) [@bdgr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bdgr)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2014, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-perry-indicted/695656/1 "2014-08-16T00:55:39Z")

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So, with Rick Perry indicted on two felony counts, guess his presidential run is down the toilet.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2014, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-perry-indicted/695656/2 "2014-08-16T00:56:36Z")

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Cite, please.

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**Author:** ![bdgr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a87d85/32.png) [@bdgr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bdgr)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2014, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-perry-indicted/695656/3 "2014-08-16T00:59:30Z")

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[http://trailblazersblog.dallasnews.com/2014/08/rick-perry-indicted-on-two-felonies.html/](http://trailblazersblog.dallasnews.com/2014/08/rick-perry-indicted-on-two-felonies.html/)

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2014, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-perry-indicted/695656/4 "2014-08-16T01:00:28Z")

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[Breaking News](http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/15/politics/rick-perry-indictment/index.html?hpt=hp_t1) on CNN. Looks politically motivated to me.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2014, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-perry-indicted/695656/5 "2014-08-16T01:02:20Z")

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> [@bdgr](#):
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> [http://trailblazersblog.dallasnews.com/2014/08/rick-perry-indicted-on-two-felonies.html/](http://trailblazersblog.dallasnews.com/2014/08/rick-perry-indicted-on-two-felonies.html/)

Thanks. Looks like a hell of a mess. Should be fun following this one!

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2014, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-perry-indicted/695656/6 "2014-08-16T01:02:24Z")

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> [@Oakminster](#):
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> [Breaking News](http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/15/politics/rick-perry-indictment/index.html?hpt=hp_t1) on CNN. Looks politically motivated to me.

Sure was, that’s why he was indicted.

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**Author:** ![bdgr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a87d85/32.png) [@bdgr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bdgr)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2014, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-perry-indicted/695656/7 "2014-08-16T01:04:38Z")

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From the above link

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> [http://trailblazersblog.dallasnews.com/2014/08/rick-perry-indicted-on-two-felonies.html/](http://trailblazersblog.dallasnews.com/2014/08/rick-perry-indicted-on-two-felonies.html/)  
> Perry was indicted on charges of abuse of official capacity, a first-degree felony with potential punishments of five to 99 years in prison, and coercion of a public servant, a third-degree felony that carries a punishment of two to 10 years.

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**Author:** ![bdgr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a87d85/32.png) [@bdgr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bdgr)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2014, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-perry-indicted/695656/8 "2014-08-16T01:06:01Z")

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Nearly everyone I know here in Texas (republicans included) are rejoicing.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2014, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-perry-indicted/695656/9 "2014-08-16T01:13:20Z")

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> [@Oakminster](#):
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> [Breaking News](http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/15/politics/rick-perry-indictment/index.html?hpt=hp_t1) on CNN. Looks politically motivated to me.

I agree entirely that it is politically motivated. But is it true? We’ll see.

I really love following Texas politics/court cases; they’re great!

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**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2014, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-perry-indicted/695656/10 "2014-08-16T02:21:54Z")

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> [@Frank](#):
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> I agree entirely that it is politically motivated. But is it true?

Is what true? Doesn’t seem to be much to dispute about what happened, just whether it constitutes an abuse of power.

Its more or less the same thing former Governor Ferguson was convicted for, which I assume is why someone thought to try and go after Perry for the same thing. Though I think Ferguson was impeached, not tried in the Courts?

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**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2014, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-perry-indicted/695656/11 "2014-08-16T02:26:58Z")

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How dare Perry try to remove someone from office for committing a DUI (three times over the limit) and having to be restrained when put in jail for wild and incoherent behavior! Abuse of power indeed.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2014, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-perry-indicted/695656/12 "2014-08-16T02:29:09Z")

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> [@Terr](#):
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> How dare Perry try to remove someone from office for committing a DUI (three times over the limit) and having to be restrained when put in jail for wild and incoherent behavior! Abuse of power indeed.

He cut the funding to the agency she headed. Not the same thing.

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**Author:** ![F.Pu-du-he-pa-as](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c89c15/32.png) [@F.Pu-du-he-pa-as](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/F.Pu-du-he-pa-as)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2014, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-perry-indicted/695656/13 "2014-08-16T02:29:53Z")

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There’s also some good coverage on the KUT website, [here](http://kut.org/post/governor-rick-perry-indicted-two-felony-charges) and [here](http://kut.org/post/timeline-governor-rick-perrys-felony-indictment).

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2014, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-perry-indicted/695656/14 "2014-08-16T02:31:46Z")

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> [@Terr](#):
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> How dare Perry try to remove someone from office for committing a DUI (three times over the limit) and having to be restrained when put in jail for wild and incoherent behavior! Abuse of power indeed.

There are ways to try and remove someone from office that are not an abuse of power, and there are ways that are an abuse of power.

We’ll see which one this is, but whether or not this person should not have been in this particular office is immaterial as to whether Perry committed an abuse of power.

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**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2014, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-perry-indicted/695656/15 "2014-08-16T02:32:10Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> He cut the funding to the agency she headed. Not the same thing.

When she refused to resign.

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2014, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-perry-indicted/695656/16 "2014-08-16T02:34:52Z")

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> [@Terr](#):
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> How dare Perry try to remove someone from office for committing a DUI (three times over the limit) and having to be restrained when put in jail for wild and incoherent behavior! Abuse of power indeed.

So it’s not an abuse of power if the person you are bullying is a dick?

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**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2014, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-perry-indicted/695656/17 "2014-08-16T02:35:42Z")

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> [@DigitalC](#):
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> So it’s not an abuse of power if the person you are bullying is a dick?

It is not an abuse of power if the person you’re trying to remove from office deserves to be removed from office.

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2014, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-perry-indicted/695656/18 "2014-08-16T02:35:59Z")

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> [@Terr](#):
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> When she refused to resign.

Just because she should resign doesn’t make “resign or i’ll veto funding for your department” any less of an abuse of power.

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2014, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-perry-indicted/695656/19 "2014-08-16T02:37:02Z")

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> [@Terr](#):
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> It is not an abuse of power if the person you’re trying to remove from office deserves to be removed from office.

That is ridiculous. “Deserves” is in no way part of the equation, it is either legal or it is not.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2014, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-perry-indicted/695656/20 "2014-08-16T02:37:48Z")

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> [@Terr](#):
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> It is not an abuse of power if the person you’re trying to remove from office deserves to be removed from office.

That’s a pretty silly thing to say. “Abuse of power” is about the method – the motivation doesn’t matter at all.

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