# Rick Perry on how to grow an economy **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 30, 2013, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-perry-on-how-to-grow-an-economy/672608 "2013-10-30T00:23:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2013, 7:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-perry-on-how-to-grow-an-economy/672608/21 "2013-10-30T07:54:08Z")
Well, I’ll start with the pitting. Cornopean, when the fuck are you going to understand that boiling complex, multifaceted issues down to one variable is usually not going to end well? And when the fuck are you going to realize that it’s almost always republicans doing this to fool you? You fall for every bullshit line in the book, miss the details, and end up with the wrong idea. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2013, 8:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-perry-on-how-to-grow-an-economy/672608/22 "2013-10-30T08:13:46Z")
I keep hearing from conservatives that economic growth is not a zero sum game, that it’s all about creating wealth where none existed before. But then there’s this from Perry’s editorial: > [@](#): > > The Texas model of success means more opportunities, better jobs and better lives for Texans. Companies moving from high-tax, high-regulatory states to low-tax, pro-growth states like Texas have a greater chance to grow and create even more jobs. > > In fact, in just the past 15 months, dozens of California companies have publicly announced plans to relocate or expand in Texas, totaling more than 12,000 jobs. He’s bragging about cannibalizing jobs from other states, which sounds pretty zero-sum to me. I wonder how much of Texas’s growing economy is really growth, and how much of it is just moving from one place to another. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2013, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-perry-on-how-to-grow-an-economy/672608/23 "2013-10-30T12:31:44Z")
yay. Look at all the wonderful job conditions in Texas…like [this one](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16802442&postcount=103) ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2013, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-perry-on-how-to-grow-an-economy/672608/24 "2013-10-30T12:36:29Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Given that it’s Rick Perry, I’m going to go out on a limb and say “both:” his facts are wrong, and he has misinterpreted them. And that Cornopean meant to offer us three options. But he forgot the last one… ---
**Author:** ![sylmar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b782af/32.png) [@sylmar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sylmar)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2013, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-perry-on-how-to-grow-an-economy/672608/25 "2013-10-30T13:02:38Z")
> [@Bridget\_Burke](#): > > And that Cornopean meant to offer us three options. But he forgot the last one… Oops… ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2013, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-perry-on-how-to-grow-an-economy/672608/26 "2013-10-30T13:03:35Z")
Texas has the good fortune to be sitting on top of oil. Price of oil has gone up, they make shitloads of money. They still lead the nation in uninsured workers, so these jobs apparently don’t contain benefits. If Perry wants to brag about being Little China, let him. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2013, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-perry-on-how-to-grow-an-economy/672608/27 "2013-10-30T13:12:37Z")
> [@cornopean](#): > > Ok…read this article. [Rick Perry: Follow the Texas model of success](http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2013/10/28/governor-rick-perry-texas-tour-jobs-editorials-debates/3290927/) No. If you think there’s something worth reading in it, quote the relevant portion and I’ll read that. ---
**Author:** ![DrumBum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e79b87/32.png) [@DrumBum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrumBum)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2013, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-perry-on-how-to-grow-an-economy/672608/28 "2013-10-30T13:13:07Z")
Jobs might be moving to Texas but I wonder if people that held those jobs are moving as well. The O&G company I work for announced plans to move ~150 positions from California to Houston but only about 40% of those people accepted the transfer. The rest found other jobs or retired. The ones that did move found that the “low tax” claims made by Gov. Perry extends more corporations than to residents. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2013, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-perry-on-how-to-grow-an-economy/672608/29 "2013-10-30T13:17:51Z")
I keep hoping we will get some intelligent conservatives posting here. Instead we get **cornholio**. I even imagine that voice when I read his posts, and I picture him at his computer with his t shirt pulled over his head as he types this bullshit. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2013, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-perry-on-how-to-grow-an-economy/672608/30 "2013-10-30T13:19:05Z")
Steady on. He’s got some odd ideas but he’s polite and willing to listen. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2013, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-perry-on-how-to-grow-an-economy/672608/31 "2013-10-30T13:25:55Z")
He uses the vocabulary of politeness. This is not the same as _being_ polite. And his continual refrain of _everything that is touched by government is automatically made worse by the contact_ does not mitigate in favor of a conclusion that he’s willing to listen. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2013, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-perry-on-how-to-grow-an-economy/672608/32 "2013-10-30T14:03:05Z")
> [@cornopean](#): > > If you disagree with him, you can respond to this article in two ways: > > 1. either he has his facts wrong or > 2. his facts are accurate but his interpretation of those facts is incorrect. > > Which is it? 1. The Department of Energy. ---
**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2013, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-perry-on-how-to-grow-an-economy/672608/33 "2013-10-30T14:11:25Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > Instead we get **cornholio**. I even imagine that voice when I read his posts, and I picture him at his computer with his t shirt pulled over his head as he types this bullshit. Beavis could be pretty philosophical as his alter ego. After all, aren’t we all looking for the figurative TP for our bungholes? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2013, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-perry-on-how-to-grow-an-economy/672608/34 "2013-10-30T14:22:56Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > 1. The Department of Energy. Well played. ---
**Author:** ![sylmar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b782af/32.png) [@sylmar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sylmar)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2013, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-perry-on-how-to-grow-an-economy/672608/35 "2013-10-30T16:11:19Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > What is being Pitted here? Dunno. Be helpful if the OP actually hung around to delineate his under-lying premise instead of just taking a dump and tottering off… ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2013, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-perry-on-how-to-grow-an-economy/672608/36 "2013-10-30T16:18:25Z")
You’re all wrong. It’s not oil. It’s Rick Perry’s hair. People come from all over the world to see it. People move to Texas to be near it. To be fair, it does use a lot of oil. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2013, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-perry-on-how-to-grow-an-economy/672608/37 "2013-10-30T18:08:13Z")
My take-away from this Pitting (other than the reminder that Texas has oil :p) is that Rick Perry is viewed as an important Republican idea man. :dubious: In a neighboring thread another right-wing Doper tells us Bob Woodward is a respected liberal intellectual. :smack: What bizarre types of sources inform these wingnut Dopers? Comic books? ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2013, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-perry-on-how-to-grow-an-economy/672608/38 "2013-10-30T18:16:30Z")
> [@shambler pat](#): > > **cornopean** sooner or later. I just like how he couldn’t think of a third thing. ETA: I see Munch got to that joke before I did. Damn you, Munch. ---
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2013, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-perry-on-how-to-grow-an-economy/672608/39 "2013-10-30T18:28:33Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > ETA: I see Munch got to that joke before I did. Damn you, Munch. Oh, now I finally get that (several hours later). :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2013, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-perry-on-how-to-grow-an-economy/672608/40 "2013-10-30T18:29:36Z")
> [@marshmallow](#): > > Beavis could be pretty philosophical as his alter ego. After all, aren’t we all looking for the figurative TP for our bungholes? heh heh… bunghole… heh heh. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-perry-on-how-to-grow-an-economy/672608.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-perry-on-how-to-grow-an-economy/672608.md?page=3)