# Rick Perry to jump into the race?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-perry-to-jump-into-the-race/583589>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [May 28, 2011, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-perry-to-jump-into-the-race/583589 "2011-05-28T19:57:27Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2011, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-perry-to-jump-into-the-race/583589/181 "2011-07-24T19:51:17Z")

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> [@Bridget\_Burke](#):
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> Let’s see if RR can find real reasons for liking Perry.

One of them is that he thinks Perry believes dissolving the union would be a bad idea.

No, that isn’t a joke.

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2011, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-perry-to-jump-into-the-race/583589/182 "2011-07-24T20:10:41Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> And yet, what you’re doing there is comparing other candidates to Obama.

Yes, you caught me. I thought it was clear that I was talking about Republican candidates who may be running.

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2011, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-perry-to-jump-into-the-race/583589/183 "2011-07-24T20:16:09Z")

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> [@CaptMurdock](#):
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> While I can certainly imagine finding a candidate (yes, even a Republican candidate) that I would vote for in lieu of Barack Obama, I can’t stomach the thought of the current crop of the GOP’s Special Ed Team.
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> See you in 2016.

I guess good is the enemy of great. At this point I’d be happy to pick a name out of the phone book. After I omit all current members of congress.

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**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2011, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-perry-to-jump-into-the-race/583589/184 "2011-07-24T23:25:19Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> I guess good is the enemy of great. At this point I’d be happy to pick a name out of the phone book. After I omit all current members of congress.

Oh, oh, better not get someone… inexperienced. :eek:

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**Author:** ![Recovering\_Republican](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d2c977/32.png) [@Recovering\_Republican](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Recovering_Republican)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2011, 10:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-perry-to-jump-into-the-race/583589/185 "2011-07-25T10:40:32Z")

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> [@Finagle](#):
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> Way back in post 131 of this thread, I posted about [the way that Perry has balanced the Texas budget using bogus accounting tricks that just push problems into the next legislature session and will ultimately screw Texans badly.](http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/07/06/261752/perry-budget-accounting-gimmicks/) But I guess you were too busy badmouthing Obama and participating in thread hijacks to pay attention.
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> ?

Nah, man, I don’t pay any attention to anything you say at this point…

**Bridget Burke**

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> Oh, that famous budget that slashed education & social programs?

You talk like that’s a bad thing. Two biggest ways government wastes money- Public “Education” and paying welfare people to stay home and make babies. We should get the government out of both of those businesses.

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**Author:** ![Recovering\_Republican](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d2c977/32.png) [@Recovering\_Republican](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Recovering_Republican)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2011, 11:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-perry-to-jump-into-the-race/583589/186 "2011-07-25T11:15:37Z")

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[http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2011/07/25/rick\_perry\_eyes\_late\_august\_campaign\_launch\_110695.html](http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2011/07/25/rick_perry_eyes_late_august_campaign_launch_110695.html)

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> Potential donors to Perry’s presidential effort met Tuesday in Austin, and those familiar with what transpired there told RealClearPolitics that key players in Perry’s orbit indicated the 61-year-old Republican will announce a campaign between Aug. 15 and Aug. 31. Perry himself said on Friday that he’ll at least make his intentions known within the next three to four weeks.
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> In the past month Perry’s team has moved swiftly to put the parts in place for a campaign.
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> Although Perry always has had a large advance staff because of Texas’ size, several low-level staffers on Capitol Hill who have experience doing advance work have departed conspicuously for the Lone Star State in recent weeks.
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> While Perry has focused on determining whether he can raise the funds necessary to launch a credible campaign, his strategists have begun locking down verbal commitments from vendors and other potential top staff who would fill out a campaign organization. One who was contacted about a senior staff position was told, “This is a 99 percent sure thing.” Another said he was told, “He is 100 percent in.” That wouldn’t seem to leave much in the way of margin of error, but a third vendor who was approached said that while Perry’s political circle is lining up a staff, they are doing so without knowing what Perry’s final call will be.

AWESOME!!!

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2011, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-perry-to-jump-into-the-race/583589/187 "2011-07-25T12:42:49Z")

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> [@CaptMurdock](#):
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> Oh, oh, better not get someone… inexperienced. :eek:

Teabag till it hurts (or at least chafes!), baby!

-Joe

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**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2011, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-perry-to-jump-into-the-race/583589/188 "2011-07-25T14:44:34Z")

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> [@Merijeek](#):
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> Teabag till it hurts (or at least chafes!), baby!
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> -Joe

I prefer sun tea, but thanks for asking!

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2011, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-perry-to-jump-into-the-race/583589/189 "2011-07-25T15:44:30Z")

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Must it always be Texas? There’s plenty of crazy in Arizona, for instance. Of course, its a dry crazy…

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2011, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-perry-to-jump-into-the-race/583589/190 "2011-07-25T19:40:34Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Two biggest ways government wastes money- Public “Education” and paying welfare people to stay home and make babies.

You appear to have confused “big” and “small”. You could fit the entire Department of Education into the waste in the Department of War with so much room left over that nobody would ever notice the difference.

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2011, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-perry-to-jump-into-the-race/583589/191 "2011-07-25T20:43:26Z")

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> [@CaptMurdock](#):
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> Oh, oh, better not get someone… inexperienced. :eek:

More important to get someone who believes in capitalism, without the distracting redistribute-the-wealth thing. The latter kinda undoes the former.

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2011, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-perry-to-jump-into-the-race/583589/192 "2011-07-25T20:45:45Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Must it always be Texas? There’s plenty of crazy in Arizona, for instance. Of course, its a dry crazy…

Actually, a nice one. Though would have been better with Florida instead of Texas, as most of the heat in Texas is a dry heat. But there is Houston, so there may be hope for you yet…

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**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-perry-to-jump-into-the-race/583589/193 "2011-07-26T00:11:15Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> Actually, a nice one. Though would have been better with Florida instead of Texas, as most of the heat in Texas is a dry heat. But there is Houston, so there may be hope for you yet…

Hey! Florida first. For now, we’re keeping all our crazy right here at home. It’s tourist season, ya know. You want to see our crazy, you come down here and see it…

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**Author:** ![BrassyPhrase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ea666f/32.png) [@BrassyPhrase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrassyPhrase)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-perry-to-jump-into-the-race/583589/194 "2011-07-26T02:10:53Z")

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I wish Molly were still here, and I didn’t see this quote here, which I believe references the Shrub.

" Next time I tell you someone from Texas should not be president of the United States, please pay attention."

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**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-perry-to-jump-into-the-race/583589/195 "2011-07-26T04:47:36Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> More important to get someone who believes in capitalism, without the distracting redistribute-the-wealth thing. The latter kinda undoes the former.

Oh, that reminds me: the 1880’s called. They’re not in town anymore, so any cheerleaders for robber-baron capitalism that are left can find a new job.

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**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-perry-to-jump-into-the-race/583589/196 "2011-07-26T04:59:30Z")

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Lots of Texans have been [making notes on Perry’s antics](http://www.burntorangereport.com/diary/11265/perry-america-needs-me)–even if they don’t have Molly’s way with words.

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> When he announces his candidacy in the next two or three weeks, Perry will turn the volume up on the Myth of Texas Economy. It’s crucial that we, as Texas progressives, match Tricky Rick’s lies with the truth. To do this, we must equip ourselves with the facts about our state’s economy.
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> Perry says he’s a fiscal conservative, and he’s even criticized George W. Bush for excess spending as Texas governor. In reality, Perry’s a big-spending neoconservative, just like his predecessor. “[T]he size of the Texas budget had consistently grown during Perry’s time as governor, with total spending rising faster than inflation and population growth,” the Fort Worth Star-Telegram reported this weekend.
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> Perry says that under his leadership, Texas has put a low burden on business. False. Dale Craymer, president of the Texas Taxpayers and Research Association, met earlier this year with a delegation of California lawmakers looking to learn from Texas policymakers. “Texas is not a low tax state for businesses because we rely so much on property and sales taxes,” Craymer said. “The California delegation was kind of in shock. Our tax numbers are not that much different.”…
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> So, what has Perry done? He took a growing state and did everything he could to make sure we lose that growth. All the while, he’s gallivanted across the country lying about Texas for his own political benefit. Now, Perry wants to get elected president off of the Myth of the Texas Economy.
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> We won’t let him. And yes, Rick, it’s because we need you…to stay as far away from Washington as possible.

Lots more to come as the story “develops.”

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**Author:** ![Recovering\_Republican](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d2c977/32.png) [@Recovering\_Republican](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Recovering_Republican)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2011, 10:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-perry-to-jump-into-the-race/583589/197 "2011-07-31T10:15:45Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> You appear to have confused “big” and “small”. You could fit the entire Department of Education into the waste in the Department of War with so much room left over that nobody would ever notice the difference.

Well, the Defense Department has a purpose. The Education department really doesn’t.

Again, the sooner we privatize education, the better.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2011, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-perry-to-jump-into-the-race/583589/198 "2011-07-31T18:24:49Z")

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Yeah, because the profit motive is bound to improve schools.

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**Author:** ![Recovering\_Republican](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d2c977/32.png) [@Recovering\_Republican](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Recovering_Republican)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2011, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-perry-to-jump-into-the-race/583589/199 "2011-07-31T22:30:53Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Yeah, because the profit motive is bound to improve schools.

Of course it is..

Because how do you make a profit in business?

By producing a better product/service than the other guy.

How do you improve schools,

By making sure that your school is as good or better than the one down the block, so parents want to send their kids there.

It’s simple economics, man.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2011, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-perry-to-jump-into-the-race/583589/200 "2011-08-01T02:25:34Z")

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Mmmhmm. Tell me this: does McDonald’s produce good food?

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