# Rick Ross: if not rape, what's it all about? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 12, 2013, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-ross-if-not-rape-whats-it-all-about/655541 "2013-04-12T20:46:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 3\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2013, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-ross-if-not-rape-whats-it-all-about/655541/41 "2013-04-15T04:39:25Z")
I just find it odd that anyone wouldn’t hear lines about putting something in a girl’s drink and not immediately think of date rape. Even if you dismissed it as being a stupid interpretation, I’d think it would at least cross your mind. I thought it even though I didn’t know what molly was. And a reviewer I watch, who knows rap backwards and forwards, caught it too. I’d also be surprised at a rapper NOT using his lyrical refrain literally at least once as a type of worldplay. It’s my impression that, often, the whole refrain was designed around that one line where they do it. At least, I’ve seen it a lot in the Rap Critic’s reviews. ---
**Author:** ![Machine\_Elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@Machine\_Elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machine_Elf)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2013, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-ross-if-not-rape-whats-it-all-about/655541/42 "2013-04-15T13:05:01Z")
> [@Lamia](#): > > It’s actually listed as a [date rape drug](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_rape_drug#Other_drugs) on the Wikipedia article on the subject, which is evidence that at least some people think of it that way even if it would not be the most effective drug to use for that purpose. A quick search on Google books comes up with a [couple](http://books.google.com/books?id=jzRRFxwplKoC&lpg=PA56&dq=mdma%20date%20rape&pg=PA56#v=onepage&q=mdma%20date%20rape&f=false) [books](http://books.google.com/books?id=8ANS_I9bCtIC&dq) saying that it’s a myth that MDMA is a date rape drug, which suggests that this belief is fairly widespread even if it isn’t correct. I guess I kind of made an assumption, or perhaps conflated it with rohypnol. My apologies for perpetuating what appears to be an urban myth. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2013, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-ross-if-not-rape-whats-it-all-about/655541/43 "2013-04-15T18:51:50Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > I just find it odd that anyone wouldn’t hear lines about putting something in a girl’s drink and not immediately think of date rape. […] I thought it even though I didn’t know what molly was. I think that’s natural - and much _more_ natural if you don’t know what “molly” is. I’m not mystified that it has been interpreted that way; it seems incredibly skeevy on the face of it, and I think it’s astonishingly stupid that it got published that way. At the same time, I don’t have any trouble believing that buddy is sincere when he says that it wasn’t meant to be understood that way - but that only becomes apparent if you have some assumed knowledge and are considering those lines in context: Narrator first describes his _own_ beverage as “champagne with a little high-glow”, non-literal use of “don’t even know it” throughout, knowledge that the presence of MDMA in champagne would be readily apparent, understanding that an A-to-B of giving someone ecstasy and then going home with them is a familiar and plausible scenario if the other person is aware, willing and into it, it makes absolutely no sense as either a mickey finn or magical aphrodisiac and would in fact utterly vapourize your chances of getting someone into bed if it was slipped to them on the sly. Apart from that, a knowledge-and-consent scenario fits with the (somewhat threadbare) theme of the lyrics: “I am the big man in the club, I have the best clothes, the best cynically product-placed corporate-sponsored shitty shoes, the best booze, the best drugs, and the best women.” “I dupe women into having sex with me,” doesn’t fit that narrative at all. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-ross-if-not-rape-whats-it-all-about/655541.md?page=2)