# Rick Sanchez takes on Jon Stewart... and immediately gets fired by CNN **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 1, 2010, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-sanchez-takes-on-jon-stewart-and-immediately-gets-fired-by-cnn/555791 "2010-10-01T23:43:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2010, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-sanchez-takes-on-jon-stewart-and-immediately-gets-fired-by-cnn/555791/81 "2010-10-02T15:56:19Z")
I wonder how Jon is going to deal with this on Monday. It should be fun. I am bummed that I am going to be out of the country on Monday and will miss the show. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2010, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-sanchez-takes-on-jon-stewart-and-immediately-gets-fired-by-cnn/555791/82 "2010-10-02T16:50:46Z")
> [@lindsaybluth](#): > > How can you compare an immigrant’s family with zero or limited English whose family worked menial jobs to eat with a guy whose professor dad left at 12? When has Jon Stewart ever done this? > [@](#): > > We have no idea if his mother got child support, either, so Stewart was pretty much middle-class. On the surface they did _not_ have similar lifestyles at _all_. I’m no fan of Sanchez’s, but the defenses coming forth for Stewart are absurd. Defenses of Stewart for what? What exactly are you saying he’s done that he needs to be defended for? Earlier you said “Stewart is grasping at straws.” I still would like to know what the hell you were referring to. What exactly did _Jon Stewart_ say or do which amounts to “grapsing at straws,” and with what regard was he grasping? Could you please spell out exactly what accusation you are making against Jon Stewart? > [@](#): > > I saw this late last night. The title of the thread should be “Rick Sanchez gets canned after his sponsor and protector on CNN gets canned” He was fired for going into an antisemitic rant on the air. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2010, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-sanchez-takes-on-jon-stewart-and-immediately-gets-fired-by-cnn/555791/83 "2010-10-02T16:59:06Z")
> [@Khadaji](#): > > I have learned here that suggesting (or asking if it is true) that Jews run the media is a type of hate speech, akin to suggesting that black people like fried chicken and are good dancers. > > I’m not joking, that was the analogy. > > People feel strongly about this topic. The assertion that “Jews run the media” is a standard antisemitic conspiracy meme, just like “they own all the banks.” The idea that “Jews control everything” is the core of antisemitic paranoia and demonization. ---
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2010, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-sanchez-takes-on-jon-stewart-and-immediately-gets-fired-by-cnn/555791/84 "2010-10-02T17:14:05Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > I tend to see this the way Bosstone described it. " **Dirty" Sanchez** is just being a whiny little bitch. What do you want to bet this will be Stewart’s headline when he talks about this on Monday’s show? ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2010, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-sanchez-takes-on-jon-stewart-and-immediately-gets-fired-by-cnn/555791/85 "2010-10-02T17:14:58Z")
> [@joebuck20](#): > > > [@SteveG1](#): > > > > I tend to see this the way Bosstone described it. " **Dirty" Sanchez** is just being a whiny little bitch. > > What do you want to bet this will be Stewart’s headline when he talks about this on Monday’s show? If it is, I’ll bust a gut laughing ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2010, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-sanchez-takes-on-jon-stewart-and-immediately-gets-fired-by-cnn/555791/86 "2010-10-02T17:19:28Z")
Too obvious. ---
**Author:** ![zamboniracer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9a140/32.png) [@zamboniracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zamboniracer)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2010, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-sanchez-takes-on-jon-stewart-and-immediately-gets-fired-by-cnn/555791/87 "2010-10-02T17:22:56Z")
> [@joebuck20](#): > > What do you want to bet this will be Stewart’s headline when he talks about this on Monday’s show? The better question is, what will be Colbert’s headline? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![newcomer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e5b9ba/32.png) [@newcomer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/newcomer)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2010, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-sanchez-takes-on-jon-stewart-and-immediately-gets-fired-by-cnn/555791/88 "2010-10-02T17:30:08Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > The assertion that “Jews run the media” is a standard antisemitic conspiracy meme, just like “they own all the banks.” The idea that “Jews control everything” is the core of antisemitic paranoia and demonization. But that’s not exactly what Sanchez said. At least not in that tone and intent. The way I see it, his point was that if you have a number people belonging to a certain ethnicity running TV networks – and they do – that disqualifies a member of said ethnicity from the discrimination claim. But, as with almost any public figure saying something tangentially offending it is quickly construed and suggested as a sign of a deep seated hatred for a particular ethnicity. It is an extreme and malicious interpretation and I’m not even going into the argument that it only applies when one ethnicity or religious group is mentioned. In other words, if a similar statement would mentioned Black, Latinos or Muslims arguing the extreme interpretation would be laughed out and satirized. Hold your horses, I’m looking for cites. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2010, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-sanchez-takes-on-jon-stewart-and-immediately-gets-fired-by-cnn/555791/89 "2010-10-02T17:46:07Z")
> [@newcomer](#): > > > [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > > > The assertion that “Jews run the media” is a standard antisemitic conspiracy meme, just like “they own all the banks.” The idea that “Jews control everything” is the core of antisemitic paranoia and demonization. > > But that’s not exactly what Sanchez said. At least not in that tone and intent. I disagree. I think the tone was pretty clear. > [@](#): > > The way I see it, his point was that if you have a number people belonging to a certain ethnicity running TV networks – and they do Cite that they do? > [@](#): > > – that disqualifies a member of said ethnicity from the discrimination claim Who said Stewart had been discriminated against? Certainly not Stewart. the reporter in this case was pointing out that Stewart was part of ethnic minority – not part of this imaginary “liberal white elite” that Sanchez referred to – and that set Sanchez on on a rant about Jews controlling the media. The notion that Jews are “controlling things” is a classic - THE classic - antisemetic meme, but even pointing to successful Jews is not evidence that antisemitic bigotry still doesn’t exist in the US, or that Stewart can’t have been a victim of it (I would bet anything that Jon Stewart regularly gets antisemitic hate mail and death threats), but importantly, from a business standpoint, a newtork can’t have a loose cannon like that on the air. Sponsors don’t react well to it. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2010, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-sanchez-takes-on-jon-stewart-and-immediately-gets-fired-by-cnn/555791/90 "2010-10-02T17:54:01Z")
> [@newcomer](#): > > …The way I see it, his point was that if you have a number people belonging to a certain ethnicity running TV networks – and they do – that disqualifies a member of said ethnicity from the discrimination claim. … What are you talking about? The only person who claimed he was being discriminated against in this mess is Sanchez. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-sanchez-takes-on-jon-stewart-and-immediately-gets-fired-by-cnn/555791/91 "2010-10-02T17:56:10Z")
> [@lindsaybluth](#): > > Aren’t we all making assertions about his intent? We’re all commenting on what he does and why, yes. But when he makes jokes about being Jewish and short and unathletic (did you see his first pitch at that Mets game?), I don’t think he’s trying to say he’s cooler than everybody else. > [@](#): > > How can you compare an immigrant’s family with zero or limited English whose family worked menial jobs to eat with a guy whose professor dad left at 12? I don’t know how the Sanchez’s English skills were or what jobs they worked. I don’t know how much money any of them made. I do know that they’re guys of similar age who don’t appear to have come from privileged backgrounds, and who worked their way up to prominent places in entertainment. I also know that this still has nothing to do with the jokes Stewart made about Sanchez and that Stewart is not responsible for the debate about the minority status of Jews because he didn’t make any assertions about that. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2010, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-sanchez-takes-on-jon-stewart-and-immediately-gets-fired-by-cnn/555791/92 "2010-10-02T18:20:20Z")
> [@lindsaybluth](#): > > Oh, wait do you mean the thread in which people post the following in the first few handful of replies? Also, 30 years ago is the 80’s, not the 70’s. > I am clearly alone in my beliefs. Thanks for pointing that out, **Quimby**. You said antisemitism is something from the distant past (the '60s to be exact) that no longer exists and I am telling you from first hand experience that it indeed still exists so I’ll state again (and for the final time since this isn’t the pit) you are wrong and have no idea what you were talking about. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2010, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-sanchez-takes-on-jon-stewart-and-immediately-gets-fired-by-cnn/555791/93 "2010-10-02T18:32:56Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Too obvious. Every good comedian knows that sometimes, you have to go for the obvious joke. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2010, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-sanchez-takes-on-jon-stewart-and-immediately-gets-fired-by-cnn/555791/94 "2010-10-02T18:44:43Z")
[Previous Daily Show “Dirty Sanchez” joke regarding Gen. Ricardo Sanchez.](http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-october-16-2007/now-you-tell-us) I don’t think they’re going to go there again even if it’s been a few years. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2010, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-sanchez-takes-on-jon-stewart-and-immediately-gets-fired-by-cnn/555791/95 "2010-10-02T18:57:28Z")
> [@lindsaybluth](#): > > > [@Quimby](#): > > > > Regarding antisemitism, as I alluded to in my companion pit thread here, both my family and I have personally experienced antisemitism in the '70s, '80s and '90s so, as I said, you don’t know what you are talking about. > > Oh, wait do you mean the thread in which people post the following in the first few handful of replies? Also, 30 years ago is the 80’s, not the 70’s. > > I am clearly alone in my beliefs. Thanks for pointing that out, **Quimby**. Wait a tick. How do any of those quotes you lifted from the Pit thread rebut **Quimby** ’s assertion that he’s personally suffered from anti-semitism in the last three decades? And what does the “thirty years ago” comment have to do with anything? ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2010, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-sanchez-takes-on-jon-stewart-and-immediately-gets-fired-by-cnn/555791/96 "2010-10-02T19:15:13Z")
If you have any doubt that there is still anti-semitism in America, check out [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12980777&postcount=28) gem shit out by **Captain Midnight**. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2010, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-sanchez-takes-on-jon-stewart-and-immediately-gets-fired-by-cnn/555791/97 "2010-10-02T19:18:21Z")
I wouldn’t even deny that there are a lot of Jewish people in entertainment, at all levels of the industry. But saying “the Jews run the media” puts a sinister conspiracy spin on it, that they’re this malevolent shadow group pulling the strings and manipulating honest Americans. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2010, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-sanchez-takes-on-jon-stewart-and-immediately-gets-fired-by-cnn/555791/98 "2010-10-02T19:25:10Z")
I did not know that the Illuminati are Jewish. ---
**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2010, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-sanchez-takes-on-jon-stewart-and-immediately-gets-fired-by-cnn/555791/99 "2010-10-02T19:28:26Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > If you have any doubt that there is still anti-semitism in America, check out [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12980777&postcount=28) gem shit out by **Captain Midnight**. I think it’s obvious what happened. He invented a time machine in the 1960s so he could come forward in time and make sure that by 2010, antisemitism hadn’t completely disappeared. Though perhaps it _is_ too late to save the coasts. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2010, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-sanchez-takes-on-jon-stewart-and-immediately-gets-fired-by-cnn/555791/100 "2010-10-02T19:28:52Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > If you have any doubt that there is still anti-semitism in America, check out [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12980777&postcount=28) gem shit out by **Captain Amazing**. Erm, **Captain Midnight** , actually. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-sanchez-takes-on-jon-stewart-and-immediately-gets-fired-by-cnn/555791.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-sanchez-takes-on-jon-stewart-and-immediately-gets-fired-by-cnn/555791.md?page=6)