# Rick Warren's son commits suicide. **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [April 6, 2013, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-warrens-son-commits-suicide/655043 "2013-04-06T22:45:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2013, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-warrens-son-commits-suicide/655043/1 "2013-04-06T22:45:32Z")
[Dude, I feel for the entire family.](http://edition.cnn.com/2013/04/06/us/california-warren-suicide/index.html) No one, and I mean no one anywhere, should have to go through this. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2013, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-warrens-son-commits-suicide/655043/2 "2013-04-06T22:55:52Z")
I’m so confused. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2013, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-warrens-son-commits-suicide/655043/3 "2013-04-06T22:55:56Z")
I don’t understand. Your link goes to some odd Youtube video with two guys singing about video games. Is this meant to be a joke? ---
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2013, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-warrens-son-commits-suicide/655043/4 "2013-04-06T23:05:07Z")
Here’s an article: [http://gma.yahoo.com/pastor-rick-warrens-son-commits-suicide-210804226--abc-news-topstories.html](http://gma.yahoo.com/pastor-rick-warrens-son-commits-suicide-210804226--abc-news-topstories.html). ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2013, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-warrens-son-commits-suicide/655043/5 "2013-04-06T23:06:23Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > [Dude, I feel for the entire family.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=-TgvdKnQbDI#t=23s) > > No one, and I mean no one anywhere, should have to go through this. ☹ Um, that link goes to a YouTube song about ‘scrotum guns’. 😕 ETA: I didn’t see that this mistake had already been pointed out. ---
**Author:** ![PandaBear77](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@PandaBear77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PandaBear77)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2013, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-warrens-son-commits-suicide/655043/6 "2013-04-06T23:48:04Z")
Truly terrible ☹ ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2013, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-warrens-son-commits-suicide/655043/7 "2013-04-06T23:51:21Z")
I gather the young man had some mental health issues. His parents have to be devastated. Very sad. ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2013, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-warrens-son-commits-suicide/655043/8 "2013-04-06T23:58:37Z")
> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#): > > I gather the young man had some mental health issues. Can someone commit suicide _without_ having ‘mental issues’ of some sort? ---
**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2013, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-warrens-son-commits-suicide/655043/9 "2013-04-07T00:13:54Z")
> [@Ambivalid](#): > > Can someone commit suicide _without_ having ‘mental issues’ of some sort? Plenty of perfectly sane people off themselves for one reason or another. Terminal illness is a popular motivator. ---
**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2013, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-warrens-son-commits-suicide/655043/10 "2013-04-07T00:14:20Z")
> [@Ambivalid](#): > > Can someone commit suicide _without_ having ‘mental issues’ of some sort? Especially if they use scrotum guns? ---
**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2013, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-warrens-son-commits-suicide/655043/11 "2013-04-07T00:17:16Z")
The horrible thing about depression is that it isn’t rational. Even though when you’re in the midst of it, ending the pain feels like the most rational thing imaginable. There is no form of arguing or attempts to convince that will help. You have to get outside the mind. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2013, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-warrens-son-commits-suicide/655043/12 "2013-04-07T00:19:57Z")
Uh, wow. I’m incredibly sorry; that link was from fusoya’s nintendo game thread in the game room. I’m incredibly embarrassed and apologize. I must have had that link in the clipboard and I thought I’d copied the news story. I’ll ask the mods to edit that. ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2013, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-warrens-son-commits-suicide/655043/13 "2013-04-07T00:22:32Z")
> [@friedo](#): > > Plenty of perfectly sane people off themselves for one reason or another. Terminal illness is a popular motivator. And plenty of perfectly sane people have mental problems too. Depression is a mental illness. ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2013, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-warrens-son-commits-suicide/655043/14 "2013-04-07T07:36:35Z")
I’ve fixed the link in the OP. ---
**Author:** ![Gagundathar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a183cd/32.png) [@Gagundathar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gagundathar)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2013, 7:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-warrens-son-commits-suicide/655043/15 "2013-04-07T07:54:35Z")
Suicide is such a tragedy. We should all try to figure out how to ameliorate the effects of depression, but I am not certain how to do so. I lost a member of my family to suicide and it genuinely scars the parents. In a permanent way. My heart goes out to the parents of this young man. ---
**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2013, 8:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-warrens-son-commits-suicide/655043/16 "2013-04-07T08:18:17Z")
I’m Glad that a certain someone isn’t around here anymore to tell us all about what happens to people in the afterlife once they’ve committed suicide. ---
**Author:** ![Becky2844](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Becky2844](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Becky2844)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2013, 9:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-warrens-son-commits-suicide/655043/17 "2013-04-07T09:46:23Z")
Those of us with suicidal ideation know it doesn’t follow logic. Sometimes we succumb to the sirens call. ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2013, 9:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-warrens-son-commits-suicide/655043/18 "2013-04-07T09:50:03Z")
Did it cross anyone else’s mind to wonder if the young man was gay? Or just me? Hunches are worse than useless, but I couldn’t help it. Because if so, Rick Warren would be one of the worst people to have as a parent. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2013, 11:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-warrens-son-commits-suicide/655043/19 "2013-04-07T11:24:08Z")
Is Warren on record in believing that people who commit suicide go to hell? If he does, that has to be the worst part of his son’s death–not merely knowing that he’ll never see him again, but knowing that he will suffer unimaginable agony for all eternity. ---
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2013, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-warrens-son-commits-suicide/655043/20 "2013-04-07T14:01:15Z")
> [@Equipoise](#): > > Did it cross anyone else’s mind to wonder if the young man was gay? Or just me? Hunches are worse than useless, but I couldn’t help it. Because if so, Rick Warren would be one of the worst people to have as a parent. It was the first thing to come to my mind. The article says the son battled mental illness, but there’s no way of knowing if this is a complete picture. We will probably never know. The second thing to come to mind was whether the suicide was enabled by a gun. It doesn’t matter to me, but I just wanted to brace myself for all the arguments. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rick-warrens-son-commits-suicide/655043.md?page=2)