# Right Wing Idiocy - Poll: Majority of Republicans don't think Obama legitimately won 2008 election.
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wing-idiocy-poll-majority-of-republicans-dont-think-obama-legitimately-won-2008-election/518207
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [November 19, 2009, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wing-idiocy-poll-majority-of-republicans-dont-think-obama-legitimately-won-2008-election/518207 "2009-11-19T22:16:08Z")
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### Author:  [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)
#### Post date: [November 19, 2009, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wing-idiocy-poll-majority-of-republicans-dont-think-obama-legitimately-won-2008-election/518207/1 "2009-11-19T22:16:08Z")
According to this story 52 percent of Republicans think ACORN helped steal the election for Obama:
> **[Poll: Majority Of Republicans Don't Think Obama Won 2008 Election](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/poll-majority-of-republic_n_363984)**
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> Poll: Majority Of Republicans Don't Think Obama Won 2008 Election
The damage the GOP does to our average national IQ score is truly extraordinary.
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### Author:  [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)
#### Post date: [November 19, 2009, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wing-idiocy-poll-majority-of-republicans-dont-think-obama-legitimately-won-2008-election/518207/2 "2009-11-19T22:22:20Z")
On the bright side, it could mean that 52 percent of Republicans too stupid or lazy to get out of answering a poll are stupid enough to believe the various bullshit conspiracies spewed out by Fox & Fucks.
If that’s the case, then Beck _et al_ are really falling down on the job. Get those numbers up, wingnuts!
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### Author:  [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)
#### Post date: [November 19, 2009, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wing-idiocy-poll-majority-of-republicans-dont-think-obama-legitimately-won-2008-election/518207/3 "2009-11-19T22:28:02Z")
Oh come on. It’s completely disingenuous to imagine that a majority of the GOP represents the GOP. When will you liberals stop parading the whacko majority as if it represents the majority?
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### Author:  [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)
#### Post date: [November 19, 2009, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wing-idiocy-poll-majority-of-republicans-dont-think-obama-legitimately-won-2008-election/518207/4 "2009-11-19T22:46:45Z")
That is a strange poll. They claim that 5% of _Obama voters_ think ACORN stole the election for him.
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### Author:  [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)
#### Post date: [November 19, 2009, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wing-idiocy-poll-majority-of-republicans-dont-think-obama-legitimately-won-2008-election/518207/5 "2009-11-19T22:50:58Z")
9% of Democrats think so, 12% of African Americans, 11% of liberals.
Hard to believe these numbers.
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### Author:  [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)
#### Post date: [November 19, 2009, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wing-idiocy-poll-majority-of-republicans-dont-think-obama-legitimately-won-2008-election/518207/6 "2009-11-19T22:57:18Z")
> [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#):
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> 9% of Democrats think so, 12% of African Americans, 11% of liberals.
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> Hard to believe these numbers.
Why? You can typically find those sorts of numbers to support just about any claim or proposition. You’d have to choose something like “do you support mandated cannibalism” before you get lower numbers.
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### Author:  [@Cort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cort)
#### Post date: [November 19, 2009, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wing-idiocy-poll-majority-of-republicans-dont-think-obama-legitimately-won-2008-election/518207/7 "2009-11-19T23:05:45Z")
Christ, people are fucking stupid.
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### Author:  [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)
#### Post date: [November 19, 2009, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wing-idiocy-poll-majority-of-republicans-dont-think-obama-legitimately-won-2008-election/518207/8 "2009-11-19T23:16:49Z")
> [@Cort](#):
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> Christ, people are fucking stupid.
Without protection.
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### Author:  [@Sinaijon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sinaijon)
#### Post date: [November 19, 2009, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wing-idiocy-poll-majority-of-republicans-dont-think-obama-legitimately-won-2008-election/518207/9 "2009-11-19T23:29:02Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> Why? You can typically find those sorts of numbers to support just about any claim or proposition. You’d have to choose something like “do you support mandated cannibalism” before you get lower numbers.
I doubt it. The more outrageous the proposition, the stronger the desire there is to pick it, just to screw with the poll. If it’s not question for serious consideration, why should a serious answer be given?
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### Author:  [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)
#### Post date: [November 20, 2009, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wing-idiocy-poll-majority-of-republicans-dont-think-obama-legitimately-won-2008-election/518207/10 "2009-11-20T00:05:09Z")
That aint the half of it! Here’s a new wrinkle: praying to a just and loving God to smite Obama. I shit you not.
[http://thinkprogress.org/2009/11/19/pray-obama-psal/](http://thinkprogress.org/2009/11/19/pray-obama-psal/)
With pictures…cute little teddy bears with “Pray for Obama” emblazoned thereupon, “Psalms 109:8”. “Psalms?” you say “That dear little poetic addendum at the back of the Bible, what with sweet sexy love poems? And what could be wrong about praying for Obama?”
This:
> [@](#):
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> …Let his days be few; and let another take his office.
> Let his children be fatherless, and his wife a widow.
> Let his children be continually vagabonds, and beg: let them seek their bread also out of their desolate places…
There’s more. You’re too nice a person to inflict it upon, unless you’re not, then fuck you, go away.
John 11:35
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### Author:  [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)
#### Post date: [November 20, 2009, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wing-idiocy-poll-majority-of-republicans-dont-think-obama-legitimately-won-2008-election/518207/11 "2009-11-20T00:43:04Z")
Only 39% of Democrats think George Bush did not know about 9-11 in advance.
Should I start a thread about left-wing idiocy?
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### Author:  [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)
#### Post date: [November 20, 2009, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wing-idiocy-poll-majority-of-republicans-dont-think-obama-legitimately-won-2008-election/518207/12 "2009-11-20T00:45:48Z")
> [@Bricker](#):
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> Only 39% of Democrats think George Bush did not know about 9-11 in advance.
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> Should I start a thread about left-wing idiocy?
What makes you think that’s nearly as idiotic? Or idiotic at all. He was warned, repeatedly, that something was coming.
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### Author:  [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)
#### Post date: [November 20, 2009, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wing-idiocy-poll-majority-of-republicans-dont-think-obama-legitimately-won-2008-election/518207/13 "2009-11-20T00:48:31Z")
> [@Bricker](#):
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> Only 39% of Democrats think George Bush did not know about 9-11 in advance.
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> Should I start a thread about left-wing idiocy?
Depends. Does that 61% think that George Bush knew, specifically, that on 9/11 terrorists were going to fly four planes into assorted national landmarks, and sat back and said “Let 'em do it!”
Or does that group include people who think that Bush had information that a major attack was in the planning stages, and that he didn’t act on those reports?
Because my understanding is that there’s some factual evidence for the second case.
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### Author:  [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)
#### Post date: [November 20, 2009, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wing-idiocy-poll-majority-of-republicans-dont-think-obama-legitimately-won-2008-election/518207/14 "2009-11-20T00:50:24Z")
> [@Bricker](#):
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> Only 39% of Democrats think George Bush did not know about 9-11 in advance.
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> Should I start a thread about left-wing idiocy?
What was the title of the August 6, 2001 President’s daily briefing?
[Here’s a hint](http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/04/10/bush.briefing/)
If you wish to start an exercise in false equivalency, by all means _go for it_!
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### Author:  [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)
#### Post date: [November 20, 2009, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wing-idiocy-poll-majority-of-republicans-dont-think-obama-legitimately-won-2008-election/518207/15 "2009-11-20T00:58:22Z")
> [@Squink](#):
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> What was the title of the August 6, 2001 President’s daily briefing?
> [Here’s a hint](http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/04/10/bush.briefing/)
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> If you wish to start an exercise in false equivalency, by all means _go for it_!
Really? You really want to argue that because Bush was warned generically about the possibility of hijackings, along with many other warning, that it’s a fair inference to say he knew about 9-11 in advance?
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### Author:  [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)
#### Post date: [November 20, 2009, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wing-idiocy-poll-majority-of-republicans-dont-think-obama-legitimately-won-2008-election/518207/16 "2009-11-20T01:00:13Z")
> [@Bricker](#):
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> Really? You really want to argue that because Bush was warned generically about the possibility of hijackings, along with many other warning, that it’s a fair inference to say he knew about 9-11 in advance?
It’s a fair inference that some people would say that depending on how the poll was worded. Not everyone is as smart as you Bricktop ol’ chum.
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### Author:  [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)
#### Post date: [November 20, 2009, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wing-idiocy-poll-majority-of-republicans-dont-think-obama-legitimately-won-2008-election/518207/17 "2009-11-20T01:07:17Z")
And only you and I are actually _smarter_! Maybe a couple others…
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### Author:  [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)
#### Post date: [November 20, 2009, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wing-idiocy-poll-majority-of-republicans-dont-think-obama-legitimately-won-2008-election/518207/18 "2009-11-20T01:08:12Z")
> [@Bricker](#):
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> Only 39% of Democrats think George Bush did not know about 9-11 in advance.
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> Should I start a thread about left-wing idiocy?
Actually I think you got that backwards. If you’re thinking about the Rasmussen poll it was 35% thought he knew about 911 beforehand. Compared to 22% of the country in general.
> **[22% Believe Bush Knew About 9/11 Attacks in Advance](https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/bush_administration/22_believe_bush_knew_about_9_11_attacks_in_advance)**
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> Democrats in America are evenly divided on the question of whether George W. Bush knew about the 9/11 terrorist attacks in advance.
So was that a FOX news moment with a strangely convenient slip up that helps what you’re arguing for? Or is this just more evidence of Republican idiocy?
😃
In any case, Republicans are still much stupider than Democrats.
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### Author:  [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)
#### Post date: [November 20, 2009, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wing-idiocy-poll-majority-of-republicans-dont-think-obama-legitimately-won-2008-election/518207/19 "2009-11-20T01:10:04Z")
> [@elucidator](#):
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> And only you and I are actually _smarter_! Maybe a couple others…
Oh, I doubt I’m smarter than Bricker. I’m just not fighting ideology. [/false\_modesty]
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### Author:  [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)
#### Post date: [November 20, 2009, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wing-idiocy-poll-majority-of-republicans-dont-think-obama-legitimately-won-2008-election/518207/20 "2009-11-20T01:35:11Z")
> [@Bricker](#):
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> Only 39% of Democrats think George Bush did not know about 9-11 in advance.
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> Should I start a thread about left-wing idiocy?
That depends.
Do you believe that “But they do it _toooo_!” justifies any-and-everything the right wing does? Do you have any internal integrity, or is totally guided by what you think others might be getting away with?
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