# Right-wing media fearmongering taken to its logical end **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 24, 2009, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wing-media-fearmongering-taken-to-its-logical-end/511310 "2009-09-24T00:09:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Kimmy\_Gibbler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Kimmy\_Gibbler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimmy_Gibbler)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2009, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wing-media-fearmongering-taken-to-its-logical-end/511310/201 "2009-11-25T04:06:55Z")
> [@Scylla](#): > > I’ve read all four pages. This is the fault of the right wing media… in what way? Yes, the right-wing media didn’t kill this guy. But for months, millions of my and my leftist pals (ACORNs) were terrified that wingnuts were “goin’ rogue” and mowing down liberals. All the right-wing media, a media of peace, had to do was renounce this violent acts. But they never did. And I think we should hold them accountable for that and the fear they acquiesced in inspiring. ---
**Author:** ![Xema](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/9de053/32.png) [@Xema](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xema)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2009, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wing-media-fearmongering-taken-to-its-logical-end/511310/202 "2009-11-25T05:14:41Z")
> [@Kimmy\_Gibbler](#): > > And I think we should hold them accountable for that and the fear they acquiesced in inspiring. Whereas those who jumped to an incorrect conclusion get a friendly pat on the back? ---
**Author:** ![CircleofWillis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/54ee81/32.png) [@CircleofWillis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CircleofWillis)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2009, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wing-media-fearmongering-taken-to-its-logical-end/511310/203 "2009-11-25T13:35:24Z")
> [@Kimmy\_Gibbler](#): > > Yes, the right-wing media didn’t kill this guy. But for months, millions of my and my leftist pals (ACORNs) were terrified that wingnuts were “goin’ rogue” and mowing down liberals. All the right-wing media, a media of peace, had to do was renounce this violent acts. But they never did. And I think we should hold them accountable for that and the fear they acquiesced in inspiring. Just.. ya know.. for future reference. I, Circle ofWillis, not a liberal, not a cvonservative, not left-wing, not right wing, do hereby denounce all past, present and future acts of senseless violence and murder whther made in the name of a specific political or apolitical stance or not. For all future acts that may be blamed on whatever political or apolitical issue I stand for, please refer to this general denouncement so that whatever opposition to said political or apolitical stance does not fear me going “rogue”. I promise. … except for SUV drivers and telemarketers, you should be afraid, Apparently it’s a law on the Dope. There, feel all warm, cozy, and fuzzy inside now? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2009, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wing-media-fearmongering-taken-to-its-logical-end/511310/204 "2009-11-25T13:44:34Z")
Clearly the right-wing media drove this guy to suicide. What? ---
**Author:** ![An\_Arky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/87869e/32.png) [@An\_Arky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Arky)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2009, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wing-media-fearmongering-taken-to-its-logical-end/511310/205 "2009-11-25T13:59:57Z")
Well, it’s a perfect illustration of why we need death panels. ---
**Author:** ![Sinaijon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@Sinaijon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sinaijon)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2009, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wing-media-fearmongering-taken-to-its-logical-end/511310/206 "2009-11-25T15:23:18Z")
> [@Kimmy\_Gibbler](#): > > But for months, millions of my and my leftist pals (ACORNs) were terrified that wingnuts were “goin’ rogue” and mowing down liberals. Maybe you all should grow a pair and stop cowering behind imaginary fears. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2009, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wing-media-fearmongering-taken-to-its-logical-end/511310/207 "2009-11-25T15:35:07Z")
> [@Sinaijon](#): > > Maybe you all should grow a pair and stop cowering behind imaginary fears. _snerk_ Have you looked at the Republican party the last 9 years? ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2009, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wing-media-fearmongering-taken-to-its-logical-end/511310/208 "2009-11-25T17:32:51Z")
Honestly, I’m quite conservative, but I can’t let this crap fly. I just love how no one came out and said that right wingers wouldn’t do that until it was proven that they didn’t. Even people on the Right don’t trust the wackjobs. I mean, nobody dared say “They may have considered themselves rightwingers, but our party would not support it.” You have crazies in your upper echelon. You can’t say for sure that these people would not advocate death. Heck, it didn’t even occur to you to do so. So, no, I don’t think anyone owes you an appology. The actions that were proposed were fear mongering, which is not outside your party’s MO. You owe us an apology for having crazy people in the highest positions of your party. You want people in your\* party? Stop using fear to motivate people. \*How can I, someone with an anxiety disorder, consider myself part of an organization that uses fear to motivate? ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2009, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wing-media-fearmongering-taken-to-its-logical-end/511310/209 "2009-11-25T17:38:56Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > I just love how no one came out and said that right wingers wouldn’t do that until it was proven that they didn’t. Even people on the Right don’t trust the wackjobs. Who trusts whackjobs? They can do anything. No one should go out and immediately declare any crazies innocent of certain misdeeds because they have similar ideologies. > [@](#): > > I mean, nobody dared say “They may have considered themselves rightwingers, but our party would not support it.” You have crazies in your upper echelon. You can’t say for sure that these people would not advocate death. Heck, it didn’t even occur to you to do so. Right, because it’s assumed that it’s not an actual part of their platform to kill census workers. Wouldn’t it be even more dangerous and crazy if they did have to say that? Then it looks like their ideology is so dangerous that killing random census workers is nearly part of it, but not quite. > [@](#): > > So, no, I don’t think anyone owes you an appology. The actions that were proposed were fear mongering, which is not outside your party’s MO. You owe us an apology for having crazy people in the highest positions of your party. You want people in your\* party? Stop using fear to motivate people. > > \*How can I, someone with an anxiety disorder, consider myself part of an organization that uses fear to motivate? I agree with this part. Even if right wing media wasn’t related to this particular instance, they are indeed fueling people with ignorant rage and implicitly calling them to action. They could’ve very easily inspired or emboldened something like this. Certainly no one who supports Glen Beck or “kill him!” at Palin rallies type stuff deserves any apology. ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2009, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wing-media-fearmongering-taken-to-its-logical-end/511310/210 "2009-11-25T21:12:02Z")
> [@Sinaijon](#): > > Maybe you all should grow a pair and stop cowering behind imaginary fears. Or better still, arm yourselves. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2009, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wing-media-fearmongering-taken-to-its-logical-end/511310/211 "2009-11-25T21:19:08Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Honestly, I’m quite conservative, but I can’t let this crap fly. > > I just love how no one came out and said that right wingers wouldn’t do that until it was proven that they didn’t. Of course they would; they’ve killed other people, and make death threats and threats of violence fairly often. The tile of this thread is perfectly correct; a murder like this was alleged to be IS the “logical end” of right wing rhetoric. > [@BigT](#): > > I mean, nobody dared say “They may have considered themselves rightwingers, but our party would not support it.” Because they would support it. They wouldn’t admit it public, but they’d support it. Prominent right wingers been making noises about killing people who work for the government a long time. The right wing is dominated by thugs and fanatics. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Moto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@Mr.Moto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Moto)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2009, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wing-media-fearmongering-taken-to-its-logical-end/511310/212 "2009-11-30T16:32:47Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Honestly, I’m quite conservative, but I can’t let this crap fly. > > I just love how no one came out and said that right wingers wouldn’t do that until it was proven that they didn’t. Even people on the Right don’t trust the wackjobs. > > I mean, nobody dared say “They may have considered themselves rightwingers, but our party would not support it.” You have crazies in your upper echelon. You can’t say for sure that these people would not advocate death. Heck, it didn’t even occur to you to do so. > > So, no, I don’t think anyone owes you an appology. The actions that were proposed were fear mongering, which is not outside your party’s MO. You owe us an apology for having crazy people in the highest positions of your party. You want people in your\* party? Stop using fear to motivate people. > > \*How can I, someone with an anxiety disorder, consider myself part of an organization that uses fear to motivate? Do you support the humane treatment of animals? ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wing-media-fearmongering-taken-to-its-logical-end/511310/213 "2009-12-02T13:12:20Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > Even if right wing media wasn’t related to this particular instance, they are indeed fueling people with ignorant rage and implicitly calling them to action. They could’ve very easily inspired or emboldened something like this. Certainly no one who supports Glen Beck or “kill him!” at Palin rallies type stuff deserves any apology. > [@Mark Twain](#): > > “Aunt, you don’t whack Sid when he takes it.” > > “Well, Sid don’t torment a body the way you do. You’d be always into that sugar if I warn’t watching you.” > > Presently she stepped into the kitchen, and Sid, happy in his immunity, reached for the sugar-bowl – a sort of glorying over Tom which was wellnigh unbearable. But Sid’s fingers slipped and the bowl dropped and broke. Tom was in ecstasies. In such ecstasies that he even controlled his tongue and was silent. He said to himself that he would not speak a word, even when his aunt came in, but would sit perfectly still till she asked who did the mischief; and then he would tell, and there would be nothing so good in the world as to see that pet model “catch it.” He was so brimful of exultation that he could hardly hold himself when the old lady came back and stood above the wreck discharging lightnings of wrath from over her spectacles. He said to himself, “Now it’s coming!” And the next instant he was sprawling on the floor! The potent palm was uplifted to strike again when Tom cried out: > > “Hold on, now, what 'er you belting ME for? – Sid broke it!” > > Aunt Polly paused, perplexed, and Tom looked for healing pity. But when she got her tongue again, she only said: > > “Umf! Well, you didn’t get a lick amiss, I reckon. You been into some other audacious mischief when I wasn’t around, like enough.” That about right? ---
**Author:** ![What\_the](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f4b2a3/32.png) [@What\_the](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_the)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2009, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wing-media-fearmongering-taken-to-its-logical-end/511310/214 "2009-12-03T23:56:54Z")
I wonder if any left-wing policies or rhetoric could be tied to violence perpetrated by the downtrodden upon a member of the trodding class? ---
**Author:** ![sqweels](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f19dbf/32.png) [@sqweels](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sqweels)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2009, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wing-media-fearmongering-taken-to-its-logical-end/511310/215 "2009-12-04T04:04:30Z")
> [@What\_the](#): > > I wonder if any left-wing policies or rhetoric could be tied to violence perpetrated by the downtrodden upon a member of the trodding class? Well, if you can’t think of any, then you’re left to wonder. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wing-media-fearmongering-taken-to-its-logical-end/511310.md?page=10)