# Right wing populism **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [June 10, 2021, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wing-populism/944006 "2021-06-10T21:21:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2021, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wing-populism/944006/21 "2021-06-14T13:00:22Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > Trumps policies always reminded me of the sort thing I would expect to hear from a guy jawing with his buddies in a bar. The sort of conversation that wonders if black boxes are indestructible why they don’t just make the planes out of the same stuff? I think this analysis rings most true for me. A lot of the love for Trump IME was that he sounds like _us_ and suggests the kind of obvious solutions that _we_ think of (where “us” and “we” means the kind of poorly informed but opinionated voter that would support Trump). Trump’s an idiot, but an idiot in popular ways, that only endear him more to his supporters. The analyses that say Trump promises his supporters what they want, really misses the mark IMO, as Trump and FOX et al _tell_ their supporters what they want (though admittedly always with a veneer of pandering to their tribalism). ---
**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2021, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wing-populism/944006/22 "2021-06-14T14:36:35Z")
> [@Wesley\_Clark](#): > > I think right wing populism is different in the US vs other nations in this regards. In places like Poland or India, the right wing populists promote expanding the welfare state and helping the poor. In the US those things are not supported by right wing populists. > > I think in Poland the right wing populists are trying to expand/improve the UHC system and increase the minimum wage. Modi tried to expand health care access. Interesting! What places these groups on the “right”? And how do they differ from the left in those countries? ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2021, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wing-populism/944006/23 "2021-06-14T14:37:12Z")
'Zactly. Plus the ever popular “He says what everybody else is only thinking”. That comes across (to them) as the brave candor of an unassailably powerful personality. Power is good; goodness is weakness. The scary thing is that within that audience monoculture, in fact pretty much everybody _is_ thinking along the same lines as what Trump is saying. ---
**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2021, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wing-populism/944006/24 "2021-06-25T06:16:31Z")
> [@ZipperJJ](#): > > What places these groups on the “right”? And how do they differ from the left in those countries? Nationalism, and/or religious exclusionism of “the other” (which may vary from country to country, but in central Europe, Muslims, Jews, Roma, internationalism/globalism other than as a means of channelling EU funding to the “right” people, gays, feminists, independent judges and anyone who makes too much noise about human rights). ---
**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2021, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wing-populism/944006/25 "2021-06-25T17:56:17Z")
And I forgot to mention George Soros as another key figure on the populists’ hate list. Long and informative piece about nativism/populism in Poland and Hungary: > **[The revolt against liberalism: what’s driving Poland and Hungary’s nativist...](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/24/revolt-against-liberalism-eastern-europe-poland-hungary-nativist-politics)** > > The long read: For the hardline conservatives ruling Poland and Hungary, the transition from communism to liberal democracy was a mirage. They fervently believe a more decisive break with the past is needed to achieve national liberation ---
**Author:** ![survinga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@survinga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/survinga)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2021, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wing-populism/944006/26 "2021-06-25T21:22:08Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Despite what some say, trump was neither a fascist or a nazi (although he had some fascist moments, of course). I think he is a fascist. He’s abused his power repeatedly. He’s tried to violently overthrow elections, and has no regard for the law or traditions/ethics. He’s used the power of “his” government to attack political adversaries and to reward loyalists. He’s a demagogue, who attacks minority groups in favor of “his” group, and used faux-trade policy as a weapon against other countries he doesn’t like. He’s encouraged violence in various settings. He speaks the language of white nationalists and economic nationalists. He’s also a voracious and serial liar. All the above are fascist traits. I think he’s a fascist. He hasn’t been fully successful in implementing fascism - Thank God - but that doesn’t mean he’s not a would-be fascist, if he could get away with it. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2021, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wing-populism/944006/27 "2021-06-25T21:29:46Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Let us not debate whether or not he was more fascist, please. > > There are many threads where trump was called one. > > We do not need another. [Indeed we do not.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-co-are-not-fascists/782772) ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2021, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wing-populism/944006/28 "2021-06-26T03:36:29Z")
> [@survinga](#): > > All the above are fascist traits. I think he’s a fascist. I’m a bit of a historical purist when I’m in a contrary mood, so depending on the day or phase of the moon I might be inclined to dismiss any definition that included those not lineally influenced by the original ideology. I make no claims to consistency on this position. But with Trump my larger completely annoying and arguably irrelevant nitpick would be acts like a fascist or is a de facto fascist might be fine. But IS a fascist is problematic. Because I consider fascism to be an actual ideology and I’m pretty sure Trump has none. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wing-populism/944006.md?page=1)