# Right wingers - what are your most left views, Left wingers your most right view? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [June 16, 2021, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wingers-what-are-your-most-left-views-left-wingers-your-most-right-view/944414 "2021-06-16T18:37:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Saintly\_Loser](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saintly_loser/32/4045_2.png) [@Saintly\_Loser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saintly_Loser)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wingers-what-are-your-most-left-views-left-wingers-your-most-right-view/944414/41 "2021-06-17T15:00:28Z")
I’m about as left-wing as you can get. But I’m starting to think I’m kind of a dinosaur, in that my idea of what constitutes “left-wing” politics is pretty old-fashioned. Meaning that I’m far more focused on economic issues, including labor rights, unionization, redistribution and progressive taxation (including wealth taxes) than I am on cultural issues. And I’m (for a variety of reasons outside the scope of this thread) not entirely comfortable with an absolute right to abortion at any time up until delivery. > [@Dr\_Paprika](#): > > They differ less in foreign policy and love of quangos. Also, WTH is a “quango”? Sounds like some weird Australian animal. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wingers-what-are-your-most-left-views-left-wingers-your-most-right-view/944414/42 "2021-06-17T15:05:14Z")
Cushy private job for party loyalists. Thought it was a British term, but could easily be Aussie. “I am pleased to announce the next ambassador to Bali, Mr. (guy who raised millions in funds)…” ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wingers-what-are-your-most-left-views-left-wingers-your-most-right-view/944414/43 "2021-06-17T15:08:46Z")
> [@oldoaktree](#): > > Right wing > > Pro choice > Pro Lgbt (though i have my limits) > Dont really care for Bible thumpers You know, I think I could’ve posted that, only minus the parenthetical. ---
**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wingers-what-are-your-most-left-views-left-wingers-your-most-right-view/944414/44 "2021-06-17T15:13:52Z")
With one being extremely conservative and 10 being extremely liberal, I classify myself as, probably, a 7 or 8. One of my most “right” views, judging from the reaction I got, is the belief that people need to work and make their own way as long as health permits and only receive assistance when necessary. That sounds reasonable, but I was castigated for expressing that view. ---
**Author:** ![Treppenwitz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treppenwitz/32/3445_2.png) [@Treppenwitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Treppenwitz)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wingers-what-are-your-most-left-views-left-wingers-your-most-right-view/944414/45 "2021-06-17T16:54:52Z")
> [@Saintly\_Loser](#): > > Also, WTH is a “quango”? This is a pretty good summary. > **[Q&A: What is a quango?](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-11405840)** > > The government has announced that 192 quangos are to be scrapped, but what exactly is a quango? j ETA: and yes @Dr_Paprika, I also believe it to be a Britishism. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wingers-what-are-your-most-left-views-left-wingers-your-most-right-view/944414/46 "2021-06-17T17:19:20Z")
To the extent that opposing nuclear power is a liberal position, I take the opposite view. Properly regulated, nuclear power is quite earth-friendly. I favor affirmative action in principle but I think economic status should also come into play. I don’t think a child of Oprah Winfrey should get an advantage in college admission over a child of a coal miner for example. I think Defund Police is the most politically stupid, tone deaf slogan in US history. I favor policies where we don’t have chokeholds or target minorities or shoot to kill. Seriously, we’ve had 4 presidential assassinations and in 3 of them the assassin was taken alive. But we let a cop off the hook for shooting a kid playing with a toy gun within 5 seconds of arriving at the scene. More restrictions, better training, more use of social workers to defuse situations - I’m all in. But defunding police is moronic. ---
**Author:** ![Saintly\_Loser](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saintly_loser/32/4045_2.png) [@Saintly\_Loser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saintly_Loser)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wingers-what-are-your-most-left-views-left-wingers-your-most-right-view/944414/47 "2021-06-17T17:43:59Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > I think Defund Police is the most politically stupid, tone deaf slogan in US history. I favor policies where we don’t have chokeholds or target minorities or shoot to kill. Seriously, we’ve had 4 presidential assassinations and in 3 of them the assassin was taken alive. But we let a cop off the hook for shooting a kid playing with a toy gun within 5 seconds of arriving at the scene. More restrictions, better training, more use of social workers to defuse situations - I’m all in. But defunding police is moronic. Sure. “Defunding” police departments, as an absolute, is indeed moronic. And it comes across as “abolish police.” That’s the trouble with slogans. On the other hand, if it means transferring money from police department budgets to other agencies better equipped to handle issues that really shouldn’t be addressed by the criminal justice system, I’m absolutely on board. But catchy slogans don’t help anyone, and just give the opposition something to rant about. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wingers-what-are-your-most-left-views-left-wingers-your-most-right-view/944414/48 "2021-06-17T17:47:25Z")
Liberals have a messaging problem, to be sure. ---
**Author:** ![BlinkingDuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eada6e/32.png) [@BlinkingDuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlinkingDuck)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wingers-what-are-your-most-left-views-left-wingers-your-most-right-view/944414/49 "2021-06-17T17:59:42Z")
More left winger here. - The intent of the second amendment is pretty clear. Gun control laws may be necessary (what do you mean I can’t own a tactical nuke and keep it in my basement?) but should be implemented with caution and the 2nd amendment in mind. - A nation has the right to control their borders including immigration. These 2 get me in the most trouble with left winger friends. I also am very pro nuclear power. VERY. ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wingers-what-are-your-most-left-views-left-wingers-your-most-right-view/944414/50 "2021-06-17T18:03:56Z")
> [@BlinkingDuck](#): > > A nation has the right to control their borders including immigration. Not to completely derail the thread, but who on any point of the political spectrum considers this idea remotely controversial? Most of the left-right conflict about borders and immigration is about the “how” of that control, not whether or not control itself should exist. ---
**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wingers-what-are-your-most-left-views-left-wingers-your-most-right-view/944414/51 "2021-06-17T18:14:31Z")
Left of center. Wife has Masters in Education, mother was a public school teacher. Acknowledging that some kids are smarter than others, and the corollary that some kids are dumber than others, is not bigotry. There is nothing wrong with having tracked English and math classes, as long as one can move between tracks as performance dictates. No more of this one-size-fits-all you-can-do-it-if-you-try-hard-enough crap. Some kids are just dumb, and not everybody is college material. Trade school is perfectly respectable and needed. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wingers-what-are-your-most-left-views-left-wingers-your-most-right-view/944414/52 "2021-06-17T18:15:09Z")
Yes, it’s called all anyone talks about is the bad slogans that some people shouted out because they were tired of being terrorized by the police, and refuses to hear anything else that everyone else has to say. If some right wingers went around screaming “Hang Mike Pence” as they broke into the Capitol, we wouldn’t assume that that was the actual political philosophy of all republicans, but for some reason “Defund the Police” gets broad brushed onto all liberals. ---
**Author:** ![Ponch8](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponch8/32/9883_2.png) [@Ponch8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponch8)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wingers-what-are-your-most-left-views-left-wingers-your-most-right-view/944414/53 "2021-06-17T18:15:32Z")
> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#): > > I’m way left, but I’ve come around to support the death penalty. I’m totally aware of how it has been abused in the past but literally everything about our justice system has been abused since the beginning and I still want a justice system. > > Putting people in prison for life just makes prisons dangerous for the staff and other prisoners. The costs as people age out and health care becomes more expensive are horrendous. Prisons in and of themselves are foul pits. And some criminals who are unquestionably guilty have no place in our society, even in prison. I consider myself a moderate, but I’m far to the left of the US’s Republican party. Still, like @Exapno_Mapcase, I am in favor of the death penalty and think that it should be used more often. I’m also no fan of left-wing politicians who think Palestinians can do no wrong and are poor innocent angels. I’d be in favor of stripping AOC and similar politicians of their committee assignments, just like what happened to that redneck congresswoman from Georgia. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wingers-what-are-your-most-left-views-left-wingers-your-most-right-view/944414/54 "2021-06-17T18:33:48Z")
My conservative leanings are mainly what the individual must do, not what society must do. Practice fiscal responsibility. Be accountable for everything you do and stop shifting blame. Don’t be a burden. Don’t live beyond your means. Take advantage of whatever government assistance offers when you need it, but don’t rely on it. Basically, everything conservatives pretended to stand for in the 80’s and completely abandoned in the present day. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wingers-what-are-your-most-left-views-left-wingers-your-most-right-view/944414/55 "2021-06-17T18:37:42Z")
> [@Ponch8](#): > > I’d be in favor of stripping AOC and similar politicians of their committee assignments, just like what happened to that redneck congresswoman from Georgia. I don’t like AOC. I wouldn’t vote for her. ---
**Author:** ![Saintly\_Loser](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saintly_loser/32/4045_2.png) [@Saintly\_Loser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saintly_Loser)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wingers-what-are-your-most-left-views-left-wingers-your-most-right-view/944414/56 "2021-06-17T18:47:17Z")
> [@Ponch8](#): > > I’d be in favor of stripping AOC and similar politicians of their committee assignments, just like what happened to that redneck congresswoman from Georgia. _For what?_ There is simply no comparison between Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Marjorie Taylor Greene. I’d bet that there are some lefties here at SDMB who aren’t huge fans of Rep. Ocasio-Cortez. But I’d also bet that the most moderate of the lefties here wouldn’t say that she should be stripped of her committee assignments. And I’m also pretty sure that the most conservative posters here don’t have much to say in defense of Marjorie Taylor Greene. Maybe that’s their most left view. Who knows. But no doubt someone will come along and prove me wrong in a minute or two. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wingers-what-are-your-most-left-views-left-wingers-your-most-right-view/944414/57 "2021-06-17T18:57:09Z")
How about against a Republican? ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wingers-what-are-your-most-left-views-left-wingers-your-most-right-view/944414/58 "2021-06-17T19:09:04Z")
Let’s hope I never have to make that choice. ---
**Author:** ![Treppenwitz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treppenwitz/32/3445_2.png) [@Treppenwitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Treppenwitz)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wingers-what-are-your-most-left-views-left-wingers-your-most-right-view/944414/59 "2021-06-17T19:26:47Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > > [@Treppenwitz](#): > > > > there are too many missed appointments, each of which costs the NHS money; if each missed appointment costs you money, fewer will be missed. > > I’d say that if you attend your appointment, it is free, but if you miss it, then you have to pay. That approach has been a matter of debate. But also see note the wider context that this example falls within: > [@Treppenwitz](#): > > …there’s too much of a temptation to treat something that’s free with contempt, or at least in too free and easy a manner… And my later note about a further benefit of requiring some degree of payment as an incentive: > [@Treppenwitz](#): > > Plus, investment equals buy-in; paying money towards healthcare makes you buy into taking care of yourself. j ---
**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wingers-what-are-your-most-left-views-left-wingers-your-most-right-view/944414/60 "2021-06-18T17:36:23Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > Out of curiosity - in Canada, when it came to earth-shatteringly large issues, such as the potential secession of Quebec - was it considered a conservative or liberal thing to support Quebec secession? (by Quebecois themselves, and non-Quebecer Canadians) Originally, the separatist Parti Quebecois was definitely socialist (really social democratic) oriented and this was resisted by the other parties, so you could consider it left wing, although the national leftist New Democrats certainly never supported separation (it would have destroyed any national party to have done so). Eventually the PQ shifted to a fairly conservative position. I know that one neighbor quit the party at that point. Incidentally, I don’t agree that the parties are nearly indistinguishable. When the Conservatives were last in power, their Minister of Science was a creationist chiropracter and science suffered badly under his regime. My most right wing belief is that I would like to see actual free markets. This obviously means _rigorous_ enforcement of anti-trust laws, banning of nearly all mergers and even limits to how large corporations can be. Of course, no right winger would agree to this. They all pay lip service to free markets, but resist competition at every turn. I would also like to see all the left wing woo, opposition to GMO, nuclear power, etc., go away. I would like to see traveling wave reactors built. Not only are they at least ten times as efficient in using the nuclear fuel, they can burn all the nuclear waste too, producing waste with half-lives measured in tens not millions of years. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wingers-what-are-your-most-left-views-left-wingers-your-most-right-view/944414.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wingers-what-are-your-most-left-views-left-wingers-your-most-right-view/944414.md?page=4)