# Right, wrong or a bigot?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wrong-or-a-bigot/995359>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [December 30, 2023, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wrong-or-a-bigot/995359 "2023-12-30T21:01:23Z")\
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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2023, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wrong-or-a-bigot/995359/1 "2023-12-30T21:01:23Z")

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This dude picks out the top ten worst films of 2023.

I see his point a few times, but then his comments about women, “woke” etc start to sound more and more bigoted to me.

What do you think?

> **[The Top 10 Worst Films Of 2023](https://boundingintocomics.com/2023/12/29/the-top-10-worst-films-of-2023/)**
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> On this list I go over the worst films that I watched this year — movies that deserve every bit of criticism they have been getting.

_When Hollywood movies are bad, they are BAD — sadly, that downward trend is getting worse, not better. This year saw the release of a handful of bad films that absolutely no one wanted to watch; some of which could be considered to be some of the worst films seen in the last two decades._

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2023, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wrong-or-a-bigot/995359/2 "2023-12-30T21:03:59Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> I see his point a few times, but then his comments about women, “woke” etc start to sound more and more bigoted to me.

Here’s the second sentence in that article:

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> 2023 was the year that the studio establishment took aim at men in the Western world and promoted several projects full of degeneracy — with some of their films going as far as declaring war to God Himself.

You’re telling me it gets worse from there?

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2023, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wrong-or-a-bigot/995359/3 "2023-12-30T21:05:20Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> You’re telling me it gets worse from there?

At times, yes.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2023, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wrong-or-a-bigot/995359/4 "2023-12-30T21:07:54Z")

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I skimmed the rest of it. It’s true that his author photo doesn’t literally feature him in a white hood; is that why you’re asking whether he’s a bigot?

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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2023, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wrong-or-a-bigot/995359/5 "2023-12-30T21:14:01Z")

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Can’t he be both? He’s not wrong about many of those films being the “worst” of 2023. But his reviews are mostly rants with undertones of racism, misogyny, and religious fanatacism.

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2023, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wrong-or-a-bigot/995359/6 "2023-12-30T21:15:04Z")

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I haven’t seen any of them, or even heard of most of them, but I HAVE heard that “The Marvels”, “80 For Brady” and “The Color Purple - The Musical” were dreadful.

A movie can check all the socially correct boxes and still be a stinker.

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**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2023, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wrong-or-a-bigot/995359/7 "2023-12-30T21:21:07Z")

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Sounded very much like white virtue signaling to me. Not especially interesting or well written.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2023, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wrong-or-a-bigot/995359/8 "2023-12-30T21:28:08Z")

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I’m not up on movies, but I’m quite confident that there were a number of stinkers released starring cishet white American Protestant men, too.

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2023, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wrong-or-a-bigot/995359/9 "2023-12-30T21:33:35Z")

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Nobody using “woke” unironically is ever worth listening too.

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**Author:** ![Chingon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chingon/32/17645_2.png) [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2023, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wrong-or-a-bigot/995359/10 "2023-12-30T21:36:39Z")

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I’m curious as to why the OP is directing views to some random dude’s site. Is this a particular reviewer of note the OP respects?

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2023, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wrong-or-a-bigot/995359/11 "2023-12-30T21:39:14Z")

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Bounding Into Comics is a vile site. After being directed to it a few times I told Google News to stop recommending it to me.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2023, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wrong-or-a-bigot/995359/12 "2023-12-30T21:41:17Z")

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> [@Chingon](#):
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> It’s be curious as to why the OP is directing views to assume random dude’s site. Is this a particular reviewer of note the OP respects?

When I was checking my phone for today’s news, his review came up. I have never heard of this guy or that site. And me saying the author is quite possibly a bigot is hardly a gesture of respect.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2023, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wrong-or-a-bigot/995359/13 "2023-12-30T21:44:13Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> of course this is something you’d bring up.

[Moderating]  
This is dangerously close to a personal attack. Dial it back, now.

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**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2023, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wrong-or-a-bigot/995359/14 "2023-12-30T21:52:37Z")

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> [@DigitalC](#):
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> Nobody using “woke” unironically is ever worth listening too.

Yeah, I got to the first of presumably more "woke"s and “the mainstream media” and stopped there. I’m not wasting time reading thru the maunderings of some dufus with an axe to grind on the culture wars.

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**Author:** ![Chingon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chingon/32/17645_2.png) [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2023, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wrong-or-a-bigot/995359/15 "2023-12-30T21:55:23Z")

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Right. These guys need to stop getting their garbage amplified.

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**Author:** ![XOldiesJock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/ec9cab/32.png) [@XOldiesJock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XOldiesJock)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2023, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wrong-or-a-bigot/995359/16 "2023-12-30T22:12:24Z")

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Out of the entire list I’ve only seen “Knock at the Cabin,” and granted, most of these films sound dreadful, but this line: _“This is a film that only appeals to rich New York Joe Biden voters and nobody else”_ pretty much sums up his overall agenda.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2023, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wrong-or-a-bigot/995359/17 "2023-12-30T22:26:22Z")

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Marvels was entertaining enough. About as good as Aquaman 2.

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2023, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wrong-or-a-bigot/995359/18 "2023-12-30T22:29:53Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> there were a number of stinkers released starring cishet white American Protestant men

I’m sure a motivated bigot can find a trans costume designer or a nonbinary key grip among the credits to support their thesis that the woke agenda is destroying the film industry. And the lunch tacos on set were probably made by an illegal alien who voted twice.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2023, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wrong-or-a-bigot/995359/19 "2023-12-30T22:48:50Z")

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The Blackening was on my top 10 list of movies this year.

[[Album] Top 10 Movies of 2023 ![](https://i.imgur.com/I54YmX2.jpeg?fb "Top 10 Movies of 2023") ](https://imgur.com/gallery/3yzMn4p)

My worst list does not have his, I think.

[[Album] Worst movies of 2023 ![](https://i.imgur.com/TkTV9Ir.jpeg?fb "Worst movies of 2023") ](https://imgur.com/gallery/mVwe8pU)

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**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2023, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wrong-or-a-bigot/995359/20 "2023-12-31T02:56:04Z")

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> [@DigitalC](#):
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> Nobody using “woke” unironically is ever worth listening too.

I have slowly come to this conclusion myself.

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