# Right, wrong or a bigot?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wrong-or-a-bigot/995359>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [December 30, 2023, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wrong-or-a-bigot/995359 "2023-12-30T21:01:23Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2023, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wrong-or-a-bigot/995359/21 "2023-12-31T03:00:13Z")

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Eh, you do still occasionally see someone mentioning “woke” in support of it. Because, you know, it’s a compliment.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2023, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wrong-or-a-bigot/995359/22 "2023-12-31T03:01:59Z")

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Sounds to me like he looked at the set of Movies He Did Not Like and then deliberately narrowed it to a list that fit his agenda that “the studio establishment took aim at men in the Western world and promoted several projects full of degeneracy”.

…and, really, as if degeneracy were not a favorite of audiences and producers alike for a hundred years.

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2023, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wrong-or-a-bigot/995359/23 "2023-12-31T03:03:04Z")

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Some of my favorite movies are degenerate.

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**Author:** ![griffin1977](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@griffin1977](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/griffin1977)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2023, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wrong-or-a-bigot/995359/24 "2023-12-31T03:08:45Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> their films going as far as declaring war to God Himself.

I don’t recall this film coming out in 2023. Not a bad elevator pitch mind you!

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2023, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wrong-or-a-bigot/995359/25 "2023-12-31T03:43:24Z")

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> [@griffin1977](#):
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> I don’t recall this film coming out in 2023.

No, that was in [a TV series](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/His_Dark_Materials_(TV_series)).

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2023, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wrong-or-a-bigot/995359/26 "2023-12-31T04:10:23Z")

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I’m convinced there is a group of people who will look for anything that will bolster their preconceived notion that all Hollywood produces today is “woke garbage,” and if it doesn’t, then the Left will make them do it.

On another board, they were discussing the “Sandman” TV series, which was on Netflix, which was based on the _Sandman_ series of graphic novels by Neil Gaiman. “Those woke idiots at Netflix with their woke agenda. I turned it off after a few episodes, because it features a kid who grows up to be gay, and what is going on the truck stop diner episode with all the lesbians and gays? What use is including so many LGBT+ characters if Netflix doesn’t have a woke agenda?”

Well, ironically, those characters are that way because that’s how Neil Gaiman wrote them in the books, and the producers wanted to be faithful to the books. And there were reasons for writing them that way. But no, this guy was convinced that it was the Netflix LGBT+ agenda telling the producers that the TV series needed more LGBT+ representation. I suppose that if you’re looking for something to be outraged about, you’ll find it, no matter how faithful it is to the source. As the author of the page linked in the OP likely did.

If the poster slamming Netflix as “woke garbage” hated the first season, then he’s really going to hate the second. According to the books, one of the storylines that’s coming up features two lesbians, a witch, and a wannabe-transsexual.

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**Author:** ![griffin1977](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@griffin1977](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/griffin1977)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2023, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wrong-or-a-bigot/995359/27 "2023-12-31T04:12:55Z")

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Are we sure this isn’t viral marketing? I’ve barely heard of most of those movies, yet now I feel like I should watch them all and do my best to find something to like about them.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2023, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wrong-or-a-bigot/995359/28 "2023-12-31T04:42:55Z")

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> I’m convinced there is a group of people who will look for anything that will bolster their preconceived notion that all Hollywood produces today is “woke garbage,” and if it doesn’t, then the Left will make them do it.

I noticed that. There was a Brit Cop show called “Handcuffs”? Where one of the main Characters is gay, and there were dozens and dozens of 1 star reviews about it being “woke”. They attack any show with any gay character.

> [@griffin1977](#):
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> Are we sure this isn’t viral marketing? I’ve barely heard of most of those movies, yet now I feel like I should watch them all and do my best to find something to like about them.

LOL

Other, non-bigoted reviewers have said _some_ similar things about the Marvels, but overall the critics thought it was “okay”. Not the hit the MCU was hoping for no doubt.

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**Author:** ![griffin1977](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@griffin1977](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/griffin1977)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2023, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wrong-or-a-bigot/995359/29 "2023-12-31T04:57:10Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> Other, non-bigoted reviewers have said _some_ similar things about the Marvels, but overall the critics thought it was “okay”. Not the hit the MCU was hoping for no doubt

I had heard of that one, and the Creator (I am a fan of Gareth Edwards, though not seen it yet), and the Color Purple obviously (though I didn’t actually realize the remake was a musical)

Other than that, maybe I was vaguely aware they’d made. another Saw?

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2023, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wrong-or-a-bigot/995359/30 "2023-12-31T05:15:28Z")

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> I’m convinced there is a group of people who will look for anything that will bolster their preconceived notion that all Hollywood produces today is “woke garbage,” and if it doesn’t, then the Left will make them do it.

See also:

> **[Trump Supporters Enraged by 18th-Century Custard Recipe](https://www.vice.com/en/article/vbmz8d/trump-supporters-enraged-by-18th-century-custard-recipe)**
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> Apparently making America great again does not mean enjoying a colonial recipe for a dessert called the 'orange fool.'

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**Author:** ![griffin1977](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@griffin1977](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/griffin1977)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2023, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wrong-or-a-bigot/995359/31 "2023-12-31T05:18:36Z")

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I actually almost feel sorry for these arseholes sometimes. Not that any of these films are in this league, but when films like Fury Road or Prey came out there was a bunch of whinging from dickwads like this about how woke they were. Seriously? They are far and away the best film in the franchise, absolutely mind blowing examples of action sci-fi, this genre you claim to be a megafan of. But you can’t bring yourself to enjoy them because they feature someone of the “wrong” gender or ethnicity?

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2023, 9:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wrong-or-a-bigot/995359/32 "2023-12-31T09:26:59Z")

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I work with someone like this, who decries anything that has diversity or a woman as the lead. What I suspect is that he doesn’t have an original opinion about anything, and takes all his leads from what he reads online. There’s a kind of “nerds like these properties, I am a nerd, therefore I like these properties” about them that makes me sad. He doesn’t like things because he likes things, he likes them because somebody he admires told him to like them. And then doesn’t like them because somebody told him to dislike them. Such a shame.

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2023, 9:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wrong-or-a-bigot/995359/33 "2023-12-31T09:38:29Z")

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Seems like he has 3 criteria for what makes a bad movie  
Involves a lot of women.  
Has a person of color in a major role  
Perverts the Bible

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**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2023, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wrong-or-a-bigot/995359/34 "2023-12-31T15:29:49Z")

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I read it from top to bottom. Definitely insufferable bigot.

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2024, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wrong-or-a-bigot/995359/35 "2024-01-01T00:04:34Z")

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I love the Townsends channel! That was probably the best free advertising they ever got.

p.s. That channel has more than 2 million subscribers now.

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**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wrong-or-a-bigot/995359/36 "2024-01-02T04:33:16Z")

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…looks at the source website…

Yep… 100% bigoted.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wrong-or-a-bigot/995359/37 "2024-01-02T04:46:38Z")

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I reported it, dunno it that will do anything.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wrong-or-a-bigot/995359/38 "2024-01-02T05:18:32Z")

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It’s a well known MAGA website.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wrong-or-a-bigot/995359/39 "2024-01-02T13:03:25Z")

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> Marvels was entertaining enough. About as good as Aquaman 2.

I would have placed it a lot higher than Aquaman 1 (haven’t seen 2), and I liked it more than Quantumania, Love and Thunder and Multiverse of Madness on the MCU side (but still below GotG3 or any recent film featuring Spider-Man). But YMMV obvs.

Also: it’s fun to point out to the woke-triggered how well _Barbie_ has done.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wrong-or-a-bigot/995359/40 "2024-01-02T13:09:23Z")

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That idiot reviewer’s head would explode after watching any Marvel What If… episodes. Chock full wimminfolk and such.

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