# Rightwing fucktards starting their bullshit already. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 23, 2007, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rightwing-fucktards-starting-their-bullshit-already/389041 "2007-01-23T03:11:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2007, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rightwing-fucktards-starting-their-bullshit-already/389041/121 "2007-01-24T15:42:09Z")
[QUOTE=Shodan] Of course, we _have_ seen actual criticism of, for instance, Mother Teresa, who was also Christian. [/quote] Attacks on people who are Christian are attacks on Christianity itself? > [@](#): > > Also see practically anything from **Der Trihs** or **pseudo triton ruber ruber** or the late unlamented troll **misguided sperm** for direct attacks on Christianity. Had you actually paid attention to any of the many threads on those subjects, you would have noted that many of those who share the (non)religious views of **Der Trihs** , **pseudo triton ruber ruber** , and **badchad** are disgusted by the way they espouse those views. But that, of course, would require paying attention, an action of which you do not seem capable. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2007, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rightwing-fucktards-starting-their-bullshit-already/389041/122 "2007-01-24T15:45:30Z")
Does Ayn Rand count as a fanaticly anti-religious lefty? ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2007, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rightwing-fucktards-starting-their-bullshit-already/389041/123 "2007-01-24T18:22:14Z")
[QUOTE=Shodan] > [@me](#): > > Daniel Pearl was beheaded by people who are evil, who everyone agrees are evil, and no one supports. Actually, people like **Dinsdale** and **Der Trihs** do support them, and on this board. So **Starving Artist** is correct that, on the SDMB, there is support for the Iraqi insurgents to win _even though_ they engage in terrorist acts, but a desire for the US to be defeated _because of_ what are perceived as the same sort of acts. [/QUOTE] I had actually typed in something about “no one but Der Trihs”, but I deleted it, because I didn’t want to get bogged down in an argument over either (a) what “support” really means in a context like this, or (b) how relevant DT and his ilk are. But I will certainly amend “…and no one supports” to “…and pratically no one, certainly no prominent left wing figure of any influence or import, and at most a few fringe dopers, supports”. ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2007, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rightwing-fucktards-starting-their-bullshit-already/389041/124 "2007-01-24T20:40:54Z")
[Obama comes out swinging](http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/horsesmouth/2007/01/post_15.php). ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2007, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rightwing-fucktards-starting-their-bullshit-already/389041/125 "2007-01-24T20:55:10Z")
[QUOTE=mhendo] Go ahead then. Show us. I asked you to support your assertions on the previous page, and so far you’ve shown no sign of doing so. This, of course, is typical of your tactics on this board. It should be pinned to the front page as the **Starving Artist Debating Strategy**. 1. Make a ridiculous claim about liberals/leftists, either those on this board, or those in America more generally. 2. Get asked by other Dopers to provide some evidence for your assertions. 3. Say that you know it’s true, and that you could find a bunch of cites, but that there’s no point doing do because no-one will accept them. 4. Proceed to do provide absolutely no evidence of your assertions, all the while continuing to claim that you’ve proved your point. 5. Go to (1). [/QUOTE] That’s not entirely accurate. He will, occasionally, provide a cite to something that says precisely the opposite of what he’s claiming, and when people point that out, will whine about “nitpickers.” ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2007, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rightwing-fucktards-starting-their-bullshit-already/389041/126 "2007-01-24T20:55:26Z")
[QUOTE=ArchiveGuy] [Obama comes out swinging](http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/horsesmouth/2007/01/post_15.php). [/QUOTE] Great response. I’m glad he peeled some paint off of Fox. He appears to have learned something from what happened to kerry. ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2007, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rightwing-fucktards-starting-their-bullshit-already/389041/127 "2007-01-24T21:43:40Z")
Just to make the obvious comment: quite often someone here pits a rightwing fucktard, and most of the board, conservative and liberal alike, comes out to condemn the fucktardery, with one or two extremists rising to his defense. Somewhat less often but still noticeable, someone here pits a leftwing fucktard, with almost exactly the same results, only the wingery of the extremists changing. And I do like “leftard” as a convenient portmanteauing of “leftwing fucktard” – but the question then is whether a squad of leftards would be commanded by a leftenant, whether the Arms of England depict leftards, etc. (Or is it gauche of me to ask? :D) ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2007, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rightwing-fucktards-starting-their-bullshit-already/389041/128 "2007-01-24T22:28:56Z")
And would a leftenants opposite number be a “right wanker”? ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2007, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rightwing-fucktards-starting-their-bullshit-already/389041/129 "2007-01-24T22:29:35Z")
“Gauche”, eh? 😉 I swear **Poly** , you just get cleverer and cleverer as you age. ---
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2007, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rightwing-fucktards-starting-their-bullshit-already/389041/130 "2007-01-24T22:39:50Z")
Dang, I was just gonna link to that TalkingPointsMemo post. And I especially agree that naming the particular people who passed along the particular slurs is good strategy. Vague blaming of “Fox News” or the “Vast Right Wing Conspiracy” isn’t helpful. Naming Steve Doocy IS. This story is going to last about one more week. A huge backfire against the RWFT who made up this story and the RWFTs who repeated it. The deniability factor of “I’m just talking about stories that are being reported” just won’t fly as well as it used to. ---
**Author:** ![Raygun99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Raygun99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raygun99)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2007, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rightwing-fucktards-starting-their-bullshit-already/389041/131 "2007-01-24T23:04:14Z")
that’s a very adroit statement, Polycarp. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2007, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rightwing-fucktards-starting-their-bullshit-already/389041/132 "2007-01-24T23:07:50Z")
[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic] Great response. I’m glad he peeled some paint off of Fox. He appears to have learned something from what happened to kerry. [/QUOTE] Agreement. Good to see a lefty with some cojones. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2007, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rightwing-fucktards-starting-their-bullshit-already/389041/133 "2007-01-25T00:04:59Z")
[QUOTE=Polycarp] (Or is it gauche of me to ask? :D) [/QUOTE] No. Just a bit sinister, is all. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Random](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/57b2e6/32.png) [@Random](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Random)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2007, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rightwing-fucktards-starting-their-bullshit-already/389041/134 "2007-01-25T00:11:58Z")
[QUOTE=mhendo] No. Just a bit sinister, is all. 🙂 [/QUOTE] Something’s not right here. ---
**Author:** ![Apos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/838e76/32.png) [@Apos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apos)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2007, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rightwing-fucktards-starting-their-bullshit-already/389041/135 "2007-01-25T00:16:05Z")
[QUOTE=Liberal] Get your hands outta there. Where’s your mommy? [/QUOTE] Still as coherent as ever, I see. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2007, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rightwing-fucktards-starting-their-bullshit-already/389041/136 "2007-01-25T00:16:40Z")
Bit of a blot on his escutcheon , I daresay. ---
**Author:** ![Apos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/838e76/32.png) [@Apos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apos)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2007, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rightwing-fucktards-starting-their-bullshit-already/389041/137 "2007-01-25T00:17:13Z")
[QUOTE=Shodan] Of course, we _have_ seen actual criticism of, for instance, Mother Teresa, who was also Christian. [/QUOTE] So what if she was a Christian: she was also a douchebag, and there’s nothing wrong with pointing that out. No one seems able to put up a coherent defense of her beyond saying “tut tut, how dare you insult Mother Teresa!” Until you are prepared to do so, maybe try dropping this as an example of some sort of criminally crazy irrational outrage directed at Christians in general, as opposed to a specific douchebag in particular. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2007, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rightwing-fucktards-starting-their-bullshit-already/389041/138 "2007-01-25T00:23:20Z")
[QUOTE=kaylasdad99] “Gauche”, eh? 😉 I swear **Poly** , you just get cleverer and cleverer as you age. [/QUOTE] Talk about a left-handed compliment. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2007, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rightwing-fucktards-starting-their-bullshit-already/389041/139 "2007-01-25T01:02:41Z")
[QUOTE=Frank] Attacks on people who are Christian are attacks on Christianity itself? [/QUOTE] No, I don’t think that was **tomndebb** ’s point. He was making the claim that the attacks on Christians on the SDMB were really attacks only on the American religious right, and that left-wing Christians were not attacked. Mother Theresa was a counter-example of a Christian who was not a member of the American religious right, and who still gets flamed. > [@MaxtheVool](#): > > had actually typed in something about “no one but Der Trihs”, but I deleted it, because I didn’t want to get bogged down in an argument over either (a) what “support” really means in a context like this, or (b) how relevant DT and his ilk are. > > But I will certainly amend “…and no one supports” to “…and pratically no one, certainly no prominent left wing figure of any influence or import, and at most a few fringe dopers, supports”. That’s fair enough. But see the thread in GD about how 22% of Americans want Bush to fail in Iraq. We could get bogged down (as you mention) in nitpicks about whether or not this constitutes support for terrorists, but it is certainly sharing one of their goals, which is to defeat the efforts to set up a reasonable government in Iraq. So this kind of hatred is not quite as fringe as you might be suggesting. > [@Polycarp](#): > > Just to make the obvious comment: quite often someone here pits a rightwing fucktard, and most of the board, conservative and liberal alike, comes out to condemn the fucktardery, with one or two extremists rising to his defense. Somewhat less often but still noticeable, someone here pits a leftwing fucktard, with almost exactly the same results, only the wingery of the extremists changing. The only thing wrong with this is that “somewhat less often” is a fairly severe over-statement. A third, or a fifth, or a tenth less often might be closer to the mark. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2007, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rightwing-fucktards-starting-their-bullshit-already/389041/140 "2007-01-25T01:40:16Z")
[QUOTE=Liberal] What does it benefit the Times to risk conspiring to publish a completely baseless slander about someone they already believe to be cunning and ruthless to the extreme? [/QUOTE] How can you have lived this long in this world and remained this clueless about how it works? Lordy. “What it benefits them” is tending to their large target market of partisan visceral Clinton-haters, a variety of person that so mystifies you that you don’t easily accept they exist, and not incidentally raises their web site hit count. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rightwing-fucktards-starting-their-bullshit-already/389041.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rightwing-fucktards-starting-their-bullshit-already/389041.md?page=8)