# Rik Mayall is NOT American!!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rik-mayall-is-not-american/93096>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 13, 2001, 9:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rik-mayall-is-not-american/93096 "2001-11-13T09:49:46Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2001, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rik-mayall-is-not-american/93096/21 "2001-11-13T22:13:19Z")

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And who could forget Rik’s steller performance in **Shock Treatment** , where he played…Rick!

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2001, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rik-mayall-is-not-american/93096/22 "2001-11-14T01:47:17Z")

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Is that a canoe in my pocket or am I happy to see you?! **WOOF!!**

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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2001, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rik-mayall-is-not-american/93096/23 "2001-11-14T06:25:11Z")

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Pollution.  
All around.  
Sometimes up  
Sometimes  
Down.  
But always around.  
Pollution?  
Are you coming to my town?  
Or am I coming  
To yours?  
We’re on different buses, pollution.  
But we’re both using  
Petrol.  
BOMBS…!

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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2001, 7:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rik-mayall-is-not-american/93096/24 "2001-11-14T07:45:34Z")

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Now I have a craving for some totalitarian vegetables.

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**Author:** ![Enzyme](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b19c9b/32.png) [@Enzyme](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enzyme)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2001, 9:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rik-mayall-is-not-american/93096/25 "2001-11-14T09:57:28Z")

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Fans of the Young Ones would probably enjoy ‘Filthy, Rich and Catflap’ not as good as the Young Ones but still a lot of fun.

Ade, Rik and Nigel Planer (Neil in the YOs) all star as the main characters.

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2001, 10:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rik-mayall-is-not-american/93096/26 "2001-11-14T10:26:38Z")

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**Rilchiam** : at whom is this rant directed? if it’s about something somebody said in a thread here, then can we perchance have a link?

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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2001, 10:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rik-mayall-is-not-american/93096/27 "2001-11-14T10:44:38Z")

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**Mangetout** : no, nobody here. As I said in the OP, this was someone IRL: Friend’s SO, who was at my house watching Monday’s premiere of AbFab because neither of them have cable. She’d made these bogus claims before, only this time she was being totally insistent and, as I mentioned, making shit up.

She went into great detail about a phantom YO episode in which Rik’s parents disown him. As I said, there may have been a Comic Strip episode that I didn’t see where a character played by Mayall clashed with his parents, but that doesn’t sound like CS. Plus, she brushed off suggestions to that effect, maintaining that it was set in the YO house and Alexie Sayle made an appearance. **Bollocks**.

And laughed at me the whole time. I might have been okay with it if not for that.

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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2001, 10:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rik-mayall-is-not-american/93096/28 "2001-11-14T10:56:03Z")

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I do not always have to be right. I disagree with people when they’re wrong because I don’t want them to hold onto misconceptions, or spread misconceptions to others. If I only **think** someone is wrong, I will say, “I’m not sure about that,” and then research it, or ask for details.

When I’m wrong, I admit it. You’ve heard me. Didn’t I admit that I was wrong about **Friday the 13th: The Final Chapter** being part 5? Did I not concede when you proved to me that it was part 4? Well? Is that someone who always has to have the last word? I only want to know what **is** right.

I held out about Candy Guard not submitting the same short to Spike ‘n’ Mike two years in a row because I didn’t want the other people in the room to think that was so. College students will repeat anything without checking it. I didn’t want word to get around that “Spike ‘n’ Mike show the same shorts every year!..Oh that sucks! Well, I won’t go then!” I like Spike ‘n’ Mike, and I didn’t want them to lose so much audience that the Playhouse wouldn’t book them any more.

I started out trying to correct her only because I didn’t want her to chase episodes of the Young Ones that didn’t exist. She’s the one who told lies rather than admit that **she** was wrong, so she escalated it, **not me**. So who’s more of a snatch? Me, or your bimbo who **laughed** at me? Laughed. At me. In my own home.

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**Author:** ![kabbes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e99b99/32.png) [@kabbes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kabbes)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2001, 11:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rik-mayall-is-not-american/93096/29 "2001-11-14T11:04:49Z")

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You are, 'cos you thought that Rick Mayall was only in one Bl’adder. 😉

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**Author:** ![psychogumby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c0e974/32.png) [@psychogumby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychogumby)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2001, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rik-mayall-is-not-american/93096/30 "2001-11-14T11:05:49Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Rilchiam \*  
> **Mangetout: no, nobody here. As I said in the OP, this was someone IRL: Friend’s SO, who was at my house watching Monday’s premiere of AbFab because neither of them have cable. She’d made these bogus claims before, only this time she was being totally insistent and, as I mentioned, making shit up.**

A couple of questions:

When she was talking, was she sitting down? And if so, was her voice muffled?

Also, look closely at the lip-sync next time she attempts to contribute one of her factoids into the conversation.

Dead giveaways as to whether or not what she is saying is kosher, I think.

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2001, 11:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rik-mayall-is-not-american/93096/31 "2001-11-14T11:10:55Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Rilchiam \*  
> **Mangetout: no, nobody here. As I said in the OP, this was someone IRL: Friend’s SO**

Sorry, it wasn’t very clear.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2001, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rik-mayall-is-not-american/93096/32 "2001-11-14T14:15:35Z")

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There’s a simple way to clear everything up. Next time she comes over, surf over to [Steve Rapport’s Young Ones Page](http://www.ironworks.com/comedy/youngone/youngone.htm) and show her that there are only 12 episodes. You can show her the scripts, the complete episode guide, the original BBC broadcast dates, and even the scribblings of The People’s Poet.

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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2001, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rik-mayall-is-not-american/93096/33 "2001-11-14T21:30:07Z")

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**Johnny** , that’s the first site I showed her! In fact, I remember that I found that page and added it to my favorites not long after she made her claim of multiple series, in 1999, and I made note of the fact that there were only 12 eps.

Then she said, “Well maybe that guy doesn’t know…”, so I did a google search. That’s when she started laughing, I guess because “Madeja look, madeja look!”

**psychogumby** , what the heck are you talking about?

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**Author:** ![psychogumby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c0e974/32.png) [@psychogumby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychogumby)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2001, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rik-mayall-is-not-american/93096/34 "2001-11-14T22:45:45Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Rilchiam \*  
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> **psychogumby** , what the heck are you talking about? \*\*

Dry Australian Humour, Rilchiam.

Ever heard someone accuse someone else of talking out of their arse? Re-read my post, and join the dots. 😃

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**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2001, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rik-mayall-is-not-american/93096/35 "2001-11-14T23:54:01Z")

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Mayall also played Robin Hood in _Black Adder V: Black Adder Back And Forth_.

😉

Esprix

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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2001, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rik-mayall-is-not-american/93096/36 "2001-11-15T00:22:26Z")

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I getcha, **psycho**.

Everyone else: All right already. Mayall and Edmondson both made appearances in Blackadder. I concede. But that doesn’t back up her claim that Edmondson offed himself, or that he did it because of being at a loose end because of Blackadder.

While we’re on the subject, anyone here like Fry and Laurie, together or separately? I think they’re a scream.

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**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2001, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rik-mayall-is-not-american/93096/37 "2001-11-15T00:54:11Z")

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> While we’re on the subject, anyone here like Fry and Laurie, together or separately? I think they’re a scream.

I love 'em. Great writers _and_ brilliant at improv.  
“Something I’ve always wondered. How did you keep Nancy for so long?”  
“…I’ve never _been_ nancy, John.”  
“I once cut all the hairs on a gentleman’s head in Cairo, shortly after the War, when the world was in an uproar and to a young man everything seemed possible.”

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2001, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rik-mayall-is-not-american/93096/38 "2001-11-15T01:02:04Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Rilchiam \*  
> \*\*While we’re on the subject, anyone here like Fry and Laurie, together or separately? I think they’re a scream. \*\*

I _love_ that show. The local PBS station showed the whole series once about ten years ago. That’s the only time I’ve seen it. I know there’s a “Best Of” video out there - I’ve been planning on buying it for years now.

My favorite sketch (as far as I can remember, anyway) was where Fry was dryly announcing new tax changes on TV. Laurie was in the audience and started heckling. It gradually got more and more bizarre, until they both ripped off their coats, revealing tights. Laurie swung down to the stage and they started sword fighting. Hysterical. You’ll have to take my word for it.

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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2001, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rik-mayall-is-not-american/93096/39 "2001-11-15T06:21:22Z")

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> \*Originally posted by psychogumby \*  
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> > \*Originally posted by Rilchiam \*  
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> > **psychogumby** , what the heck are you talking about? \*\*
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> Dry Australian Humour, Rilchiam.
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> Ever heard someone accuse someone else of talking out of their arse? Re-read my post, and join the dots. 😃 \*\*

No, **psycho** , she wasn’t a South Park character. 😉

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**Author:** ![Enzyme](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b19c9b/32.png) [@Enzyme](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enzyme)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2001, 10:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rik-mayall-is-not-american/93096/40 "2001-11-15T10:19:45Z")

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If you like these two its worth checking out their appearances in ‘Jeeves and Wooster’ - perfect casting for a perfect pairing.

Anyone remember Mayall as Kevin Turvey? Ade Edmondsen as Pete singing ‘Pete Marshall and his Musical Anarchy’ - classic!

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