# Ring the Church Bells 29 times.... **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [November 10, 2006, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ring-the-church-bells-29-times/379877 "2006-11-10T16:32:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Sunrazor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sunrazor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunrazor)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2006, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ring-the-church-bells-29-times/379877/21 "2006-11-14T12:53:03Z")
[QUOTE=Cajun Man] Do not do this again, **Kythereia**. You’ve been here long enough to know better. **Cajun Man** for the SDMB [/QUOTE] This is just unnecessary! You’ve ruined the entire tenor of the thread by bawling out someone who was just trying to remind us of some of the haunting lyrics of one of the most compelling ballads of our time. If she were walking along the street singing this song, would you walk up and chew her butt for it? No! I understand the need for moderators as well as the next person. But you guys need to take off the jackboots, use our personal e-mails for warnings, and learn some darn manners! I know you’re volunteers, but that doesn’t mean you have to be completely lacking in all social grace! Knock it off your own self! ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Griffin-Kentzel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_griffin-kentzel/32/14787_2.png) [@Larry\_Griffin-Kentzel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Griffin-Kentzel)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2006, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ring-the-church-bells-29-times/379877/22 "2006-11-14T14:30:19Z")
**Sunrazor** , if you have a problem with the manner in which a Moderator enforces the rules, take it to **The Pit**. **Cajun Man** for the SDMB ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Griffin-Kentzel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_griffin-kentzel/32/14787_2.png) [@Larry\_Griffin-Kentzel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Griffin-Kentzel)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2006, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ring-the-church-bells-29-times/379877/23 "2006-11-14T14:45:41Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by **Kythereia** _ > > I’m sorry–I thought it was okay to post small snippets of the poem. Sorry about that. Apology noted, **Kythereia**. You _are_ allowed to post small snippets (~5% or less) of copyrighted material. The four stanzas you posted amounted to ~30% of the song. **Cajun Man** for the SDMB ---
**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2006, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ring-the-church-bells-29-times/379877/24 "2006-11-14T21:40:30Z")
[QUOTE=ivylass] What a beautiful haunting song. [/Quote] Indeed it is – not only am I a Gordon Lightfoot fan, the fact that the “Fitz” had “left fully loaded for Cleveland” resonates with me, as I grew up in the suburbs of that city. > [@](#): > > Did they never find the wreck? Or they did and it can’t be raised? Raising it would be seen as desecration of a grave by the surviving family members of the crewmen. [From this page:](http://www.absolutemichigan.com/dig/michigan/the-sinking-of-the-edmund-fitzgerald/) > [@](#): > > It is believed that the crew’s bodies are still trapped in the boat’s wreckage. According to Ruth Hudson, whose only son died on the Fitzgerald, most families are not interested in retrieving the bodies for burial. “That is their grave,” she says. “We want it recognized as their grave and want it left undisturbed.” Hudson’s son, Bruce, graduated from North Olmsted High School six years ahead of me. An annually-awarded college scholarship for a senior member of the school’s band is named in his honor. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ring-the-church-bells-29-times/379877.md?page=1)