# RIP, Joe Turkel

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** celebrity-death\
**Created:** [July 6, 2022, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-joe-turkel/967486 "2022-07-06T00:31:11Z")\
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**Post date:** [July 6, 2022, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-joe-turkel/967486/1 "2022-07-06T00:31:11Z")

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Dr. Tyrell, Lloyd the bartender…

> **[Joe Turkel, Bartender in the ‘The Shining’ and ‘Blade Runner’ Actor, Dies at 94](https://variety.com/2022/film/news/joe-turkel-dead-the-shining-bartender-1235307950/)**
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> Joe Turkel, the prolific character actor well known for his roles in “The Shining” and “Blade Runner,” died at St. John’s Hospital in Santa Monica, Calif. on Monday, a…

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**Post date:** [July 6, 2022, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-joe-turkel/967486/2 "2022-07-06T03:17:50Z")

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Sorry to hear about that. He was in Stanley Kubrick’s **The Killing** , too.

He was also in the low-budget film **Tormented**. When they released the MST3K version of that on DVD, they did a special interview with Turkel, who looked ancient then.

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**Post date:** [July 6, 2022, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-joe-turkel/967486/3 "2022-07-06T06:13:44Z")

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The bartender in The Shining. Yes okay I recognize him.

Reading briefly on his wiki page, he had just written a memoir titled, _The Misery of Success_. Does not sound like a happy book.

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**Post date:** [July 6, 2022, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-joe-turkel/967486/4 "2022-07-06T11:53:05Z")

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I’d forgotten **Paths of Glory** – an important role. I _knew_ he’d been in a third Kubrick flick. His lasy screen credit was in 1997, playing Tyrell again, but he appeared in 10 TV shows and documentaries since then, according to imdb, one as recently as last year. And they don’t include the MST3K “extra” appearance.

> **[Joe Turkel - IMDb](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0877185/)**
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> Joe Turkel. Actor: The Shining. Joseph Turkel was an American character actor. He is known for his roles in Stanley Kubrick's films The Killing, Paths of Glory, and The Shining, and as Dr. Eldon Tyrell in Blade Runner. He also had roles in three of...

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**Post date:** [July 6, 2022, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-joe-turkel/967486/5 "2022-07-06T12:08:49Z")

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I watched _Blade Runner_ again in 2020 for the first time since the 1980s. He did a pretty good job playing a man who was afraid for his life but had enough wits about him to try to talk his way out of it.

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**Post date:** [July 6, 2022, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-joe-turkel/967486/6 "2022-07-06T15:59:47Z")

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Which brings up the perennial _Blade Runner_ great debate: What is the correct pronunciation of “Tyrell”?

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**Post date:** [July 6, 2022, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-joe-turkel/967486/7 "2022-07-06T16:20:08Z")

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Rachael pronounces it “Ta RELL” in introducing him to Deckard, and her boss/owner doesn’t correct her, so I assume she got it right.

RIP, Mr. Turkel, and thanks for some memorable roles.

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**Post date:** [July 6, 2022, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-joe-turkel/967486/8 "2022-07-06T22:48:31Z")

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“Commerce is our goal here at TY-rell.” Tyrell.

“… 'cause I do genetic design work for the Tuh-Rell corporation.” J.F.

One might presume the first is the WoG. But he’s old and his mind might be going. After all, he didn’t see checkmate even one move away. And I’d take J.F.'s old hand pronunciation over the newbie replicant anytime.
