# RIP King of the Hill

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-king-of-the-hill/470558>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [November 1, 2008, 8:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-king-of-the-hill/470558 "2008-11-01T08:19:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Ponch8](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponch8/32/9883_2.png) [@Ponch8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponch8)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-king-of-the-hill/470558/21 "2008-11-03T02:14:53Z")

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KoTH is one of my three favorite shows, along with _The Simpsons_ and _The Price is Right_. I agree that Fox does a horrible job of promoting it.

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**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-king-of-the-hill/470558/22 "2008-11-03T03:01:32Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> All shows must end, and it’s good to see it go before it starts to suck (I think “The Simpsons” hit THAT wall years ago), but we’ll still miss you, Hill family. Have an Alamo on me. Yep.

…not necessarily. re: Scooby Doo, Looney Tunes, ect.

There is no logical reason why a cartoon series must end. Sure, people will tire of the plot, characters, scenes - but that’s why we have a new generation of noobs every twenty or so years to continue “the franchise”.

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**Author:** ![Borborygmi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/borborygmi/32/217_2.png) [@Borborygmi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Borborygmi)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-king-of-the-hill/470558/23 "2008-11-04T15:08:54Z")

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_Variety_ is reporting that [ABC might pick up King of the Hill](http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117995191.html).

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**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-king-of-the-hill/470558/24 "2008-11-04T15:24:59Z")

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One of those shows that I rarely looked for and was never addicted to but every single time I stopped and watched it absolutely cracked me up. I know every single character it was patterned after and Judge nailed 'em perfect. Like those two old, dusty cans of beer sitting out in the garage fridge, you didn’t have to frequently partake to just feel good about knowing they were there.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-king-of-the-hill/470558/25 "2008-11-04T15:43:52Z")

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> [@Tuckerfan](#):
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> They didn’t hate him as much as they liked the money he made them.

Well, yeah, that’s sort of the point of a business arrangement.

I’ve never understood why Fox gets ripped so often for their handling of Internet-popular shows. Gosh, they cancelled King of the Hill after 13 seasons - that sucks if you’re a King of the Hill fan, but what other network would even have TRIED King of the Hill back in 1997? I bet you most other networks would never have let that concept get past the first pitch meeting. “Well, it’s a crudely animated series about a family in Texas. There’s nothing wacky or bizarre about it, it’s just sort of a low-key sitcom. No talking animals or anything. What? No, no, it’s really not anything like the Simpsons.” NBC or CBS would have just given a shitty sitcom to some standup comic, and we’d have a seven-year run of a Carrot Top sitcom or some such thing.

Fox deserves some credit; they try shows most other networks would never have touched, though in the last few years the other networks have started to accept some original stuff in an effort to keep up (I can’t imagine ABC airing “Pushing Daisies” ten years ago.)

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-king-of-the-hill/470558/26 "2008-11-04T16:12:28Z")

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> [@Borborygmi](#):
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> _Variety_ is reporting that [ABC might pick up King of the Hill](http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117995191.html).

So Bobby may get to enjoy this life a little longer before he has to go back to being Lama Sanglug? That’s nice. Reincarnation has to wear on you after a while.

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**Author:** ![clarkstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/439d5e/32.png) [@clarkstar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clarkstar)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-king-of-the-hill/470558/27 "2008-11-04T18:15:22Z")

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well judging by last week’s episode it’s overdue. a shame, really…

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-king-of-the-hill/470558/28 "2008-11-04T22:14:41Z")

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I never liked it.

Animation permits you to do the fantastic, thing you could never do in a RL production.

Judge never even _tried_ stretching the limits. He coulda done it with live actors.

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**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-king-of-the-hill/470558/29 "2008-11-04T22:48:49Z")

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> [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](#):
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> . He coulda done it with live actors.

That’s one of the things I love about the show.

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**Author:** ![neutron\_star](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/51bf81/32.png) [@neutron\_star](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neutron_star)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-king-of-the-hill/470558/30 "2008-11-04T23:35:43Z")

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> [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](#):
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> Animation permits you to do the fantastic, thing you could never do in a RL production.
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> Judge never even _tried_ stretching the limits.

You mean like every other animated anything ever? Yeah, that’s stretching the limits alright!

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-king-of-the-hill/470558/31 "2008-11-05T02:57:15Z")

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> [@MadTheSwine](#):
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> Iboota guldern summagun whatcha dune

Boomhauer! I can’t read a darn thing you wrote! Uhhhhh… Gosh Darnit! I accidently put on Peggy’s glasses.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 7:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-king-of-the-hill/470558/32 "2008-11-05T07:57:44Z")

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> [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](#):
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> I never liked it.
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> Animation permits you to do the fantastic, thing you could never do in a RL production.
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> Judge never even _tried_ stretching the limits. He coulda done it with live actors.

You’re kidding me. At one point Hank goes to a christian rock festival. He sees at lest two bands before he finds the one Bobby is performing with. All the bands are shown in detail, as is the crowd and a lot of other scenes before the festival. There is no way a live action show would have the budget for that.

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-king-of-the-hill/470558/33 "2008-11-05T22:34:14Z")

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> [@neutron\_star](#):
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> You mean like every other animated anything ever? Yeah, that’s stretching the limits alright!

Even Looney Toons went to space, or created magical characters, or amazing settings.

And _Futurama_ did that, & still came across as great characters.

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**Author:** ![Spectralist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Spectralist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spectralist)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-king-of-the-hill/470558/34 "2008-11-05T22:40:16Z")

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> [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](#):
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> Animation permits you to do the fantastic, thing you could never do in a RL production.

Like keeping the cast the same age for 13 seasons?

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**Author:** ![bufftabby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/77aa72/32.png) [@bufftabby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bufftabby)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-king-of-the-hill/470558/35 "2008-11-05T22:40:56Z")

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Sigh. Time to go cry now.

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**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2008, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-king-of-the-hill/470558/36 "2008-11-06T06:13:08Z")

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> [@Spectralist](#):
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> Like keeping the cast the same age for 13 seasons?

It ruined ‘The Wonder Years’.

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**Author:** ![Bootis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e8c25b/32.png) [@Bootis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bootis)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2008, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-king-of-the-hill/470558/37 "2008-11-06T06:32:27Z")

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> [@Larry\_Borgia](#):
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> You’re kidding me. At one point Hank goes to a christian rock festival. He sees at lest two bands before he finds the one Bobby is performing with. All the bands are shown in detail, as is the crowd and a lot of other scenes before the festival. There is no way a live action show would have the budget for that.

Exactly! They go places! They go \*outside[/I! Each show has like 20 locations. Despite being animated it seems a whole lot more real than most other live action shows.

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**Author:** ![neutron\_star](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/51bf81/32.png) [@neutron\_star](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neutron_star)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2008, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-king-of-the-hill/470558/38 "2008-11-06T14:33:16Z")

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> [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](#):
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> Even Looney Toons went to space, or created magical characters, or amazing settings.
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> And _Futurama_ did that, & still came across as great characters.

Yeah, that’s my point. Every other animated show or movie does that kind of stuff. KotH is unique by _not_ doing it. That’s one of the things that makes it great. It’s not like everything else.

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2008, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-king-of-the-hill/470558/39 "2008-11-06T22:19:21Z")

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> [@neutron\_star](#):
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> Yeah, that’s my point. Every other animated show or movie does that kind of stuff. KotH is unique by _not_ doing it. That’s one of the things that makes it great. It’s not like everything else.

If being dull is different, sure.:rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2008, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-king-of-the-hill/470558/40 "2008-11-09T01:40:45Z")

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Two words: Buckley’s Angel  
Other than that, I’m with the others-I liked the fact that it was a normal sitcom-only animated.

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