# RIP Kirstie Alley

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** celebrity-death\
**Created:** [December 6, 2022, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-kirstie-alley/976073 "2022-12-06T01:45:48Z")\
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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-kirstie-alley/976073/21 "2022-12-06T05:24:12Z")

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I don’t remember the movie, but I remember her in a Playboy bunny outfit, and she wore it well.

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**Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-kirstie-alley/976073/22 "2022-12-06T05:35:32Z")

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“A Bunny’s Tale,” from 1985; Alley was, in fact, portraying feminist journalist Gloria Steinem, who had worked as a Playboy Bunny at the New York Playboy Club for a short time in 1963,while writing a magazine article about how the Bunnies were exploited.

> **[A Bunny's Tale (TV Movie 1985) - IMDb](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088865/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0)**
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> A Bunny's Tale: Directed by Karen Arthur. With Kirstie Alley, Cotter Smith, Deborah Van Valkenburgh, Joanna Kerns. A dramatization of Gloria Steinem's undercover investigation of the working conditions Bunnies faced at the Playboy Clubs.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-kirstie-alley/976073/23 "2022-12-06T05:55:17Z")

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> [@terentii](#):
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> Kirstie was a contestant on the old _ **Match Game** _ back in the '70s.

She was also a non-celebrity contestant on Password. She said she was an interior designer from Kansas.

Made me wonder how many contestants were budding actors.

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**Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 7:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-kirstie-alley/976073/24 "2022-12-06T07:45:03Z")

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I’ll always remember her as Virgilia Hazard from _North and South (1985)_.

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**Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 7:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-kirstie-alley/976073/25 "2022-12-06T07:59:24Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> Made me wonder how many contestants were budding actors.

**[Many.](https://slate.com/human-interest/2015/03/why-do-game-shows-use-actors-as-contestants.html)**

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**Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 8:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-kirstie-alley/976073/26 "2022-12-06T08:15:14Z")

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> [@GuanoLad](#):
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> Aside from _Cheers_, I liked Kirstie in _Veronica’s Closet_ and the movie _For Richer Or Poorer_. Also, for a while she was exceedingly hot.

Wasn’t she also in Look WHO’s Talking with Travolta and Willis? And there was her Fat Actress autobiographical series as well.

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**Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 10:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-kirstie-alley/976073/27 "2022-12-06T10:35:00Z")

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I’m not a huge fan - I’ve only seen her on “Cheers” and I am in the Diane contingent - but I was still taken aback at the news of her death. Too young (which is a stupid saying, but it is what comes to mind).

mmm

ETA: The local newscaster just reported on the death of _Kristy_ Alley (she said the name twice).

Then she mentioned that Alley had appeared on “Star Track”.

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**Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 10:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-kirstie-alley/976073/28 "2022-12-06T10:56:56Z")

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Was anyone else weirded out or just plain confused by the announcement of her death? [https://twitter.com/kirstiealley/status/1599931870786908160/photo/1](https://twitter.com/kirstiealley/status/1599931870786908160/photo/1)

Kirstie Alley was never named in the announcement, and some initial responders to the news were wondering who had died, who the people were signing the announcement, whether Kirstie Alley’s mom had died, etc.

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**Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-kirstie-alley/976073/29 "2022-12-06T14:03:52Z")

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Not yet mentioned among her credits, she starred in the movie _Mad House_ in 1990 with John Larroquette.

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**Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-kirstie-alley/976073/30 "2022-12-06T14:13:11Z")

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> [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](#):
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> ETA: The local newscaster just reported on the death of _Kristy_ Alley (she said the name twice).
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> Then she mentioned that Alley had appeared on “Star Track”.

Newscasters can be like that with pop culture. A national broadcaster once suggested that the murder-suicide of Chris Benoit was caused by his disappointment at being demoted from the Four Horsemen to ECW.

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**Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-kirstie-alley/976073/31 "2022-12-06T14:42:25Z")

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Really?

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**Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-kirstie-alley/976073/32 "2022-12-06T14:46:52Z")

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Yup. According to her Wiki page:

“In October 2020, she stated she had voted for Trump in 2016 and intended to vote for him again in 2020 because “he’s NOT a politician”.[37] She also endorsed Republican John James in the 2020 United States Senate election in Michigan.[38]”

She was also a bit of an anti-vaxxer.

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**Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-kirstie-alley/976073/33 "2022-12-06T14:47:22Z")

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> [@TRC4941](#):
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> Really?

Yeah, unfortunately. An article from last year, in which she says she was blackballed from Hollywood for her support of Trump.

> **[Kirstie Alley Thinks She Was 'Stupid' Voicing Support for Donald Trump](https://www.newsweek.com/kirstie-alley-tells-tucker-carlson-stupid-voicing-support-donald-trump-1593218)**
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> Kirstie Alley says she was blackballed in Hollywood after her outspoken support of the former president.

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**Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-kirstie-alley/976073/34 "2022-12-06T14:49:06Z")

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> [@GuanoLad](#):
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> Also, for a while she was exceedingly hot.

Yes, as apparently this headline agrees:

[![Imgur](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52546219652_d7517ac1f4_b.jpg "SmartSelect\_20221205-194546\_SmartNews") ](https://www.flickr.com/photos/68782016@N08/52546219652/)

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**Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-kirstie-alley/976073/35 "2022-12-06T14:49:57Z")

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I’ll throw in [Drop Dead Gorgeous](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drop_Dead_Gorgeous_(film)), which also starred the late Brittany Murphy.

Alley had a funny role, and did well with it. I always laugh at her staring at the wrestlers’ crotches.

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**Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-kirstie-alley/976073/36 "2022-12-06T14:52:32Z")

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I love that movie!

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**Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-kirstie-alley/976073/37 "2022-12-06T15:08:16Z")

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> > [@TRC4941](#):
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> > Really?
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> Yeah, unfortunately. An article from last year, in which she says she was blackballed from Hollywood for her support of Trump.
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> [Kirstie Alley Tells Tucker Carlson She Was 'Stupid' Voicing Support for Donald Trump](https://www.newsweek.com/kirstie-alley-tells-tucker-carlson-stupid-voicing-support-donald-trump-1593218)

I said “really” meaning that should be the last thought when someone dies. Does it really matter?

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**Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-kirstie-alley/976073/38 "2022-12-06T16:51:34Z")

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Kristie was very good in Cheers. I saw a couple comedy movies with her. But don’t recall much about them.

I remember being surprised that she did pretty good on Dancing With the Stars. She partnered with Maksim Chmerkovskiy. He always got good results from his celebrities.

RIP Kristie

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**Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-kirstie-alley/976073/39 "2022-12-06T17:15:26Z")

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> [@TRC4941](#):
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> I said “really” meaning that should be the last thought when someone dies. Does it really matter?

Yes, it does. I don’t believe in blowing smoke up someone’s ass and pretending they’re a perfect person when someone dies.

And apparently, that’s not board policy, either, or a _lot_ of people would have been banned when Rush Limbaugh passed away.

But I can separate the artist from the art in her case. She was brilliant in _The Wrath of Khan,_ she was brilliant in _Cheers,_ and she was brilliant in everything I ever saw her do.

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**Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-kirstie-alley/976073/40 "2022-12-06T17:50:31Z")

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About 15 years ago, I was on a direct flight from LA to Wichita and seated next to her in first class. I tried to give her her privacy, she was a chatterbox. We ended up talking the entire flight. She was a very down to earth person. She still maintained a home in Wichita, where she grew up. She was also instrumental in developing Wichita’s branch of Scientology. A nice woman, although a bit quirky.

Rest in peace Kirstie.

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