# RIP Linda Lavin

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, celebrity-death\
**Created:** [December 30, 2024, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-linda-lavin/1012350 "2024-12-30T17:27:41Z")\
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Probably best known to most as the star of “Alice”, the TV sitcom about a waitress. 87 years is a good run in life.

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**Post date:** [December 30, 2024, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-linda-lavin/1012350/2 "2024-12-30T17:29:55Z")

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[Wentworth of Barney Miller](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0072472/characters/nm0492089).

She was going to be promoted to regular when she got the starring role in Alice. She chose well, but Wentworth was a great character.

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**Post date:** [December 30, 2024, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-linda-lavin/1012350/3 "2024-12-30T17:42:43Z")

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Well, kiss my grits, this is sad news.

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**Post date:** [December 30, 2024, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-linda-lavin/1012350/4 "2024-12-30T17:46:41Z")

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Bart Simpson has one less mortal enemy.

I had a fondness for the show as a pre-teen. It was on CBS so not the night Newhart, Mary Tyler Moore and MASH were on. Probably Friday. She was going to where, Vegas or LA to be a singer? Well she got to sing the opening title song.

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**Post date:** [December 30, 2024, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-linda-lavin/1012350/5 "2024-12-30T17:49:24Z")

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Until reading her Wikipedia entry just now, I had not ever realized that she did a lot of theater work, and was a Tony winner (and was nominated six times).

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**Post date:** [December 30, 2024, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-linda-lavin/1012350/6 "2024-12-30T17:50:41Z")

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I don’t think I’ve seen an episode since I left the United States in 1982. The only characters I can remember by name were Alice (duh), Flo, and Mel. I remember there was a regular customer at the diner with glasses who worked for the phone company. Other than that, the only thing I remember is the theme song. Weird what you remember after nearly 23 years.

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**Post date:** [December 30, 2024, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-linda-lavin/1012350/7 "2024-12-30T17:54:37Z")

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I guess living in the NY Metro area, I knew she was big on Broadway. I thought it was just common knowledge in fact.

> [@Odesio](#):
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> I remember there was a regular customer at the diner with glasses who worked for the phone company.

I’m pretty sure he was a gas station attendant in Mad Mad Mad World. The station that Jonathon Winter’s character destroyed. I feel like that is the only other thing I knew him from.

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**Post date:** [December 30, 2024, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-linda-lavin/1012350/8 "2024-12-30T17:56:09Z")

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RIP. Here’s her performance of “The Boy From…” from _The Mad Show_ (a rare Steven Sondheim - Mary Rodgers collaboration):

[![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/4CII7E_RjGU/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEmCOADEOgC8quKqQMa8AEB-AG-AoAC8AGKAgwIABABGGUgYihMMA8=&rs=AOn4CLCm0_9fBqBZqjCTpdfsekbc9ZOV2w "The Boy From...(The MAD Show)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CII7E_RjGU)

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**Post date:** [December 30, 2024, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-linda-lavin/1012350/9 "2024-12-30T17:57:06Z")

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Are you talking about Arnold Stang? He was the voice of Top Cat.

The other attendant was Marvin Kaplan. He was the voice of Choo-Choo.

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> [@terentii](#):
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> Marvin Kaplan

Was the one from Alice. Thank you.

I don’t know who Choo-Choo was though.

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**Post date:** [December 30, 2024, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-linda-lavin/1012350/11 "2024-12-30T17:59:15Z")

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[Choo-Choo | Top Cat Wiki | Fandom](https://topcat.fandom.com/wiki/Choo-Choo)

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It says he’s from the 13th Precinct of NYC which in theory would place them next to the old One Two of NYC that Detective Wentworth worked at.

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You give Mel any guff, you’ll be wearing concrete galoshes.

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> [@terentii](#):
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> Arnold Stang? He was the voice of Top Cat.

Yeah, I remembered the character had a fairly prominent NYC accent, as did Top Cat (a Manhattan cat) and that was an impersonation of Phil Silvers (also from NYC).

I want to say that Linda Lavin did put on a New Jersey-esque accent yet that show had quite a bunch of characters with certain accents. Vic Tayback, as Mel, only sounded like he was from Brooklyn. I’d like to think IRL Phoenix there are a lot of expat downstate New Yorkers.

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There you go! 🙂

_ **Top Cat** _ has always been my favorite Hanna-Barbera cartoon, maybe because it’s an animated version of _ **You’ll Never Get Rich** _ (aka _ **Sgt Bilko** _) with Phil Silvers (who was also in _ **It’s a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World** _).

Another connection: Benny “the Ball” in _ **Top Cat** _ was voiced by Maurice Gosfield, who played Pvt Doberman in _ **Bilko** _.

IRL, my initials are T.C. too. 👍

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**Post date:** [December 30, 2024, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-linda-lavin/1012350/16 "2024-12-30T18:07:50Z")

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Amazingly she worked right to the end.

> **[Linda Lavin | Actress, Director, Producer](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0492089/)**
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> Known for: Alice, The Back-up Plan, I Want to Go Home

[https://www.ibdb.com/broadway-cast-staff/linda-lavin-49068](https://www.ibdb.com/broadway-cast-staff/linda-lavin-49068)

## We should take the not Linda Lavin talk out of this thread, we’re hijacking a memoriam.

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> [@terentii](#):
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> _ **Top Cat** _ has always been my favorite Hanna-Barbera cartoon, maybe because it’s an animated version of _ **You’ll Never Get Rich** _ (aka _ **Sgt Bilko** _) with Phil Silvers (who was also in **It’s a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World** ).

Which in turn inspired another novelty song on which Lavin performed (“It’s a World, World, World, World Mad.”)

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> I guess living in the NY Metro area, I knew she was big on Broadway. I thought it was just common knowledge

I knew it from my long fandom of all things comic-book-related, in that I kept running across people saying — of the flop Broadway musical about Superman — _it was so bad that even Jack Cassidy as a villain and Linda Lavin as a love interest weren’t able to save it._

Which, y’know, is pretty high praise, if you squint just right.

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Linda Lavin did a fantastic job on Selected Shorts [reading Amy Bloom’s “Silver Water”](https://www.symphonyspace.org/selected-shorts/episodes/approaching-peace-2). It’s still one of their most requested readings.

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**Post date:** [December 30, 2024, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-linda-lavin/1012350/20 "2024-12-30T19:58:09Z")

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I saw her on off-Broadway in _The Mad Show_ and on Broadway with her star-making song in _It’s a Bird, It’s a Plane, It’s Superman._

[![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/s1CZ3m2NEfg/hqdefault.jpg "Linda Lavin sings "You've Got Possibilities" from "It's a Bird, It's a Plane, It's Superman"") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1CZ3m2NEfg)

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