After going to google translate: lol.
That was pretty…
I am afraid you do not know anything of the recent history of this region.
The Algerians refute this idea, and so does even the Libya and the Egypt.
Only Tunisia has support to this idea.
Yep. And we can include the French when we expand our view to countries further west.
Well, fucked it up, I guess…
quite,
“Sure she says I was raping her but hey, she never wrestled the knife from my hand or put me in a choke-hold so she must’ve been into it”
**RIP Mohsen Amir-Aslani
**At first I thought: An RIP thread that started in the Pit? That’s odd.Then I read some of the responses, and it looks like Ibn Warraq knew what he was doing when he placed it here.
All this for a cheesy one-liner pointing out the barbaric, anti-secular rule of modern Muslim theocratic governments.
Had I simply typed “cultural relativism” you probably would have applauded me for my “clear understanding.”
Nava’s English skills are so proficient, it’s sometimes easy to forget that her first language is Spanish. Even so, I’d consider it risky to attribute her choice of words to her mother tongue.
Be that as if may, in my estimation, you didn’t fuck anything up at all. I (and I’m sure many others) found your post to be powerful, compassionate, and moving.
I printed it out, framed it, and hung in my living room.
Oh, stop it, you!
Yes. If you want to see the likely results of the Arab Spring, look at ISIS. Or, at best, Mohamed Morsy.
Re: Iran, everything I’ve seen suggests that the regime there is, as Frank suggests, broadly popular.
Yeah, but, Morsi was freely elected. So all the liberals who were tearing up saying “they want democracy just like us!” need to wipe their eyes and their asses.
In the Middle East you aren’t getting away from Islam as the central driving force, culturally and politically. To, as I beat the dead horse, their obvious detriment.
Oh come on… Morsi was elected democratically but he almost IMMEDIATELY went the opposite of democracy as soon as he got into power. And it was bogus anyway because even if he HAD gone full democratic, the Egyptian military remained autonomous and independent ready to throw him out the second he did anything to threaten them. Egypt was NEVER a real democracy.
That’s a stretch, I think. More accurate to say that the theocrats have a genuine constituency - traditionally among the urban poor and pious bazaaris. It’s not a thuggocracy like the former Hussein regime in Iraq, where you would have been hard-pressed to find any constituency outside of maybe Tikritis. But that is a far cry from “broadly popular.” Indeed Iran is a very young country demographically and it appears that distance from the 1979 Revolution and the Iran-Iraq War is breeding greater disillusionment with the powers that be. We’ll see.
It will only be a young country for another generation, though. They have a below-replacement fertility rate now (by some estimates, lower than America’s.) I might well be wrong about the regime’s popularity though.
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/fields/2127.html
Whether or not the regime is popular, of course, goes without saying: no one should die for religious heresy, and no one, whatever their crime, should be sentenced to die by slow strangulation.
You used longer words than me, but “moving” is basically what I meant.
My family kind of made a custom of taking up arms against our governments for about 150 years: it was after centuries of putting up with those governments using our laws for toilet paper, it was because things had gotten to explosion point, and it was time and again because none of the uprisings ever solved anything, not for any longer than it took for the ink to dry on the peace treaty. If “we don’t like the government” was enough reason to grab down Pa’s gun from the mantle, there’s parts of Spain that would have been razed down to the ground by now…
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Ibn, while I appreciate the note you sent me explaining your meaning here, we do ask that posters use English on the boards, as we can’t moderate what we can’t read. No warning issued, but please avoid doing this sort of thing in the future.
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My mistake, and that makes sense. I won’t do it in the future.
For the record, I didn’t type out “fuck you” or some similar phrase in Farsi. What I actually said in the post in Farsi was “boring”, as a joke.