# Rip NRA? :D **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 15, 2021, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-nra-d/930635 "2021-01-15T22:58:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-nra-d/930635/1 "2021-01-15T22:58:59Z")
😃 > **[NRA files for bankruptcy | CNN Business](https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/15/business/nra-bankruptcy-new-york-texas/index.html)** > > The National Rifle Association of America, the nation's foremost gun lobby, has filed for bankruptcy, according to court documents filed Friday in the Northern District of Texas. ---
**Author:** ![mikecurtis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikecurtis/32/3284_2.png) [@mikecurtis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mikecurtis)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-nra-d/930635/2 "2021-01-15T23:05:00Z")
JohnT beat ya to it > [@The NRA in financial trouble?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nra-in-financial-trouble/831769/19): > > BANKRUPT! [https://www.nraforward.org/waynesletter](https://www.nraforward.org/waynesletter) ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-nra-d/930635/3 "2021-01-15T23:07:27Z")
GM filed bankruptcy and I think they are still around. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-nra-d/930635/4 "2021-01-15T23:10:20Z")
Anyone else see a problem with them claiming they need to file for bankruptcy, while also claiming they’re currently in the best financial shape they’ve been in years? It definitely sounds like they’re trying to evade prosecution, something that you only really need to do if you know the evidence is against you. ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-nra-d/930635/5 "2021-01-15T23:46:07Z")
Does it say which chapter? ---
**Author:** ![Kimera757](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kimera757/32/3765_2.png) [@Kimera757](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimera757)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-nra-d/930635/6 "2021-01-15T23:52:41Z")
Best news I heard all day! > [@BigT](#): > > Anyone else see a problem with them claiming they need to file for bankruptcy, while also claiming they’re currently in the best financial shape they’ve been in years? Political movements telling lies? I’m shocked, shocked. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-nra-d/930635/7 "2021-01-15T23:54:47Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Anyone else see a problem with them claiming they need to file for bankruptcy, while also claiming they’re currently in the best financial shape they’ve been in years? Using Bankruptcy for restructuring is quite common in the business world, and if the AG of NY is gonna harass them (they think they are, in any case, and certainly there is a political motive) then why not move to Texas? Certainly the AG has a case with the accusations for some of the NRA’s senior leadership. But for a NonProfit like the NRA, that really isnt a reason to try and dissolve the whole shebang. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-nra-d/930635/8 "2021-01-15T23:55:09Z")
Maybe bankruptcy is the best financial shape they’ve been in for years. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-nra-d/930635/9 "2021-01-16T02:04:59Z")
[The New York Times says](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/15/us/politics/nra-bankruptcy.html) that the plan is to declare bankruptcy in New York State and re-incorporate in Texas, avoiding or postponing the investigation by the NYS attorney general. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-nra-d/930635/10 "2021-01-16T02:15:03Z")
> [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](#): > > Does it say which chapter? It’s the national organization. ---
**Author:** ![pudytat72](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@pudytat72](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pudytat72)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-nra-d/930635/11 "2021-01-16T02:19:00Z")
Chapter 11 bankruptcy. Wish they would not come to Texas. ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-nra-d/930635/12 "2021-01-16T02:21:13Z")
I used to be a member of the NRA but their increasing loyalty to the Republican party and their incessant fearmongering turned me away. Over the last 20 years, the most successful efforts for the rights of gun owners (Heller v. District of Columbia) weren’t spearheaded by the NRA anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-nra-d/930635/13 "2021-01-16T02:21:47Z")
Are there any rules about trying to declare bankruptcy to avoid an ongoing investigation? ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-nra-d/930635/14 "2021-01-16T02:31:38Z")
I think the rule is that it doesn’t work. Bankruptcy can help you avoid certain civil lawsuits, depending on circumstances, but I don’t think it can help avoid criminal prosecution. ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-nra-d/930635/15 "2021-01-16T02:51:49Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > It’s the national organization. Beautiful. Mark Hamill himself couldn’t have said it better. ---
**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-nra-d/930635/16 "2021-01-16T03:59:11Z")
Perhaps every NRA member will bail and join Gun Owners of America, an organization that doesn’t roll over and play dead like the NRA did on several issues. For those of you that don’t like the NRA, you’re REALLY not going to like GOA. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-nra-d/930635/17 "2021-01-16T04:07:13Z")
Thoughts and prayers, I guess. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-nra-d/930635/18 "2021-01-16T06:12:39Z")
No, that wont work, but they can stop the AG from dissolving the NRA. ---
**Author:** ![Olfatbut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a183cd/32.png) [@Olfatbut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Olfatbut)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-nra-d/930635/19 "2021-01-16T19:37:44Z")
> **Is the NRA going “bankrupt?”** > No. In fact, this move comes at a time when the NRA is in its strongest financial condition in years. > > To facilitate its reorganization, the NRA and one of its subsidiaries filed voluntary chapter 11 petitions in the United States Bankruptcy Court for the Northern District of Texas, Dallas Division. The NRA is not insolvent. Wait, Is that legal? I can say “oh I have plenty of money I just need to break this contract see”? ETA source: [https://www.nraforward.org/questionsanswers](https://www.nraforward.org/questionsanswers) ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-nra-d/930635/20 "2021-01-16T19:56:58Z")
> [@pkbites](#): > > Perhaps every NRA member will bail and join Gun Owners of America I’m guessing all the NRA members who would want to belong to GOA have already joined it, though. It’s not like party affiliation, you know: you can be an NRA member and a GOA member at the same time if you want to. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-nra-d/930635.md?page=2)