# RIP Roy Scheider **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 11, 2008, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-roy-scheider/437113 "2008-02-11T03:16:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2008, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-roy-scheider/437113/41 "2008-02-11T22:40:18Z")
[QUOTE=TV time] As long as we’re playing “You didn’t mention,” I’m going to throw in **Marathon Man**. [/QUOTE] Post #23. ---
**Author:** ![Moirai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/96bed5/32.png) [@Moirai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moirai)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2008, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-roy-scheider/437113/42 "2008-02-12T01:04:35Z")
If you were a theater geek in the late 70’s and early 80’s, hoo boy was he ever hot in _All That Jazz_. No wonder we all wanted a womanizing bastard of a director/choreographer! 😉 Gimme an unrepentant bad boy any day! Loved that film- music, ugly people humping, bad fashion, worse hair & make-up, and heavy drug use! “What’s wrong? Don’t you _like_ musical comedy?” 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2008, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-roy-scheider/437113/43 "2008-02-12T01:09:46Z")
[QUOTE=choie] Damn. The NYT article says that according to his wife, he died from a staph infection. When this happens, do patients’ survivors have any cause for legal action? I mean, I thought staph infections are usually traced to the hospital workers rather than the patient? [/QUOTE] I don’t have a cite, but last I’d read, “community acquired” (vs. “hospital acquired”) staph infections were becoming far more frequent. As for legal action, you’d probably have to show the hospital could have prevented it. There are lots of ways for visitors, other patients, etc., to pick up and spread staph in a hospital without the personnel having any interaction with it. Back to the main topic - RIP Mr. Scheider. ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Nader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Darth\_Nader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Nader)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2008, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-roy-scheider/437113/44 "2008-02-12T02:32:05Z")
Joe Gideon got what he wanted, at last. I’ll remember him in 2010, scared shitless and comforting a cosmonaut with nothing to do during Jupiter insertion… ---
**Author:** ![Baldwin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baldwin/32/7264_2.png) [@Baldwin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baldwin)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2008, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-roy-scheider/437113/45 "2008-02-12T02:54:42Z")
[QUOTE=Wee Bairn] No one here has seen the Seven-Ups? That’s his best performance, and the best of the 70’s cop/chase movies. [/QUOTE] Oh, yeah. Nothing glitzy, just tough hard-core 70s cops and criminals. _52 Pickup_ wasn’t a great movie, but Scheider carried his role with conviction, especially with lines like “Something about your face just makes me want to slap the shit out of it.” ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2008, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-roy-scheider/437113/46 "2008-02-12T03:17:32Z")
[QUOTE=Ferret Herder] I don’t have a cite, but last I’d read, “community acquired” (vs. “hospital acquired”) staph infections were becoming far more frequent. As for legal action, you’d probably have to show the hospital could have prevented it. There are lots of ways for visitors, other patients, etc., to pick up and spread staph in a hospital without the personnel having any interaction with it. Back to the main topic - RIP Mr. Scheider. [/QUOTE] IIRC, he’d been undergoing treatment for various cancers (“multiple myeloma”) for some time now. So his immune system was quite possibly compromised to the point where it couldn’t fight off a garden-variety bug, much less staph. And re the main topic: “show’s over, folks.” RIP indeed. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2008, 7:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-roy-scheider/437113/47 "2008-02-12T07:02:14Z")
[QUOTE=cochrane] Interestingly enough, he was originally considered for the role of John Rambo in “First Blood.” [/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Omniscient] Cite? I’ve never heard anything of the sort. The film couldn’t even get into production until Stallone signed on. It’s possible that Scheider had discussions about some early version of the screenplay, but the movie we know was developed almost entirely as a Stallone vehicle. [/QUOTE] I don’t have a definitive source, but it’s been reported in various obituaries online. I’m trying to go with better sources than Wikipedia. [Radar Online](http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2008/02/roy-scheider-the-reason-you-dont-surf-dead-at-75.php) FWIW, however, imdb says Clint Eastwood, Steve McQueen, Al Pacino, Dustin Hoffman, and John Travolta were also considered for the role. Stallone may have been the impetus behind getting the movie produced, but many films go through a preliminary process where other actors are interviewed before the final choice is made. ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2008, 7:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-roy-scheider/437113/48 "2008-02-12T07:22:46Z")
_click_ Catch ya later. There is no small irony that a guy named **cochrane** is posting to this thread, either. Cochrane is the name of the bad guy (played by Malcolm McDowell) in _Blue Thunder_ ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2008, 9:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-roy-scheider/437113/49 "2008-02-12T09:25:16Z")
[QUOTE=Airman Doors, USAF] _click_ Catch ya later. There is no small irony that a guy named **cochrane** is posting to this thread, either. Cochrane is the name of the bad guy (played by Malcolm McDowell) in _Blue Thunder_ [/QUOTE] Hee, hee. Yeah, I noticed that. I took my screen name from the Star Trek character Zefram Cochrane, however. Nice coincidence, though. ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2008, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-roy-scheider/437113/50 "2008-02-28T12:19:17Z")
A bump, because [NPR’s _Fresh Aire_](http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=37759288) just did a piece on _Chicago 10_, a documentary, in which Scheider provides the voice of the judge in the case. The story sounds fascinating, and when they play a clip of the film with Scheider speaking, then a clip of the court room trial with the judge speaking, it’s amazing (at least to my ears) how closely he captured the strangeness of the judge’s voice. One thing that I thought when I heard the piece is that it is _not_ something I’d naturally associate Scheider with, then I remember that when he heard they were going to be making a movie of _Naked Lunch_, he called up Cronenberg and said, “I _have_ to play Benway! I _am_ Benway!” (This is before the script had ever been written, BTW.) So, I have to wonder what was up with ol’ Roy? He certainly didn’t have any public scandals that I can recall, and the Dopers who’ve met him speak kindly of him. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2008, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-roy-scheider/437113/51 "2008-02-28T17:06:27Z")
> [@](#): > > 2010 (an otherwise forgettable movie saved by casting Bob Balaban, Roy Scheider and John Lithgow) Another interesting casting choice in that movie: with the exception of Helen Mirren, they used actual Soviet actors to play the Soviet crew. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-roy-scheider/437113.md?page=2)