# RIP Stan Lee **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 12, 2018, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-stan-lee/824418 "2018-11-12T18:59:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-stan-lee/824418/21 "2018-11-12T20:10:25Z")
> [@pkbites](#): > > I am glad that so many great Marvel based movies got made in his lifetime. At one time many of them weren’t so good. Anyone remember the spider man live action series in the 70’s? Just awful, and certainly not worthy of Stan Lees name.( The Nicholas Hammond _Spider-man_ series may have been bad, but the Reb Brown _Captain America_ movies were worse. The Peter Hooten _Doctor Strange_ was . . . still bad, but kind of fun, if you are in a generous mood. He lived to see his creations go from Saturday morning cartoons, badly animated even by 1960s standards, to shoddy low-budget TV movies, to big-budget Hollywood blockbusters, with A-list actors and state-of-the-art special effects. ---
**Author:** ![icon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c6cbf5/32.png) [@icon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/icon)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-stan-lee/824418/22 "2018-11-12T20:14:59Z")
I always loved explaining to people as he flashed on the screen who he was and how important he was. Now, it will just make me sad. R.I.P. 'nuff said //i\ ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-stan-lee/824418/23 "2018-11-12T20:15:12Z")
Met him once. At Geppi’s Comics in Silver Spring, MD just north of DC. God, this must be 30-35 years ago. I was in high school. He signed a copy of [Silver Surfer Special #1](https://www.marvel.com/comics/issue/58338/silver_surfer_1982_1) for me. When he walked in the entire place burst into applause. Even back then, he had us. ---
**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-stan-lee/824418/24 "2018-11-12T20:16:08Z")
Aw, man, this hits me hard! I always revered him. So creative! One of the very best! I was hoping that he would live to at least 100. Sad… ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-stan-lee/824418/25 "2018-11-12T20:16:47Z")
> [@gnoitall](#): > > I’m sure I’m going to hell for this, but my first thought when I heard the news was “Huh, that’s gonna make his MCU cameos a bit awkward from now on.” :smack: I’ll bet you a dollar that in the Avengers 4 recap of Infinity War, Stan dissolves. It would be a perfect ending to the cameos. ---
**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-stan-lee/824418/26 "2018-11-12T20:17:48Z")
I wouldn’t be w/o him. ---
**Author:** ![StusBlues](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@StusBlues](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StusBlues)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-stan-lee/824418/27 "2018-11-12T20:19:15Z")
Now he belongs to the ages. Shalom, Stan ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-stan-lee/824418/28 "2018-11-12T20:36:08Z")
> [@Wheelz](#): > > 95 is not too shabby, but man, he looked like he could outlive us all. RIP indeed. I figured when his wife Joan died last year that Stan would soon follow. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-stan-lee/824418/29 "2018-11-12T20:39:47Z")
> [@mbh](#): > > The Nicholas Hammond _Spider-man_ series may have been bad, but the Reb Brown _Captain America_ movies were worse. The Peter Hooten _Doctor Strange_ was . . . still bad, but kind of fun, if you are in a generous mood. > > He lived to see his creations go from Saturday morning cartoons, badly animated even by 1960s standards, to shoddy low-budget TV movies, to big-budget Hollywood blockbusters, with A-list actors and state-of-the-art special effects. To be fair, the Bill-Bixby-and-Lou-Ferrigno _Hulk_ was theatrical-release quality. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-stan-lee/824418/30 "2018-11-12T20:40:38Z")
> [@muldoonthief](#): > > I’ll bet you a dollar that in the Avengers 4 recap of Infinity War, Stan dissolves. It would be a perfect ending to the cameos. Actually, I take this back, considering there will probably be 8000 videos of Stan disintegrating, made with varying degrees of skill, by tomorrow morning. ---
**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-stan-lee/824418/31 "2018-11-12T20:52:56Z")
It is sad that Stan Lee is dead, but those close to him in his final years abused and took advantage of him which, I suspect hastened his demise. ---
**Author:** ![OldGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/3bc359/32.png) [@OldGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldGuy)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-stan-lee/824418/32 "2018-11-12T21:02:01Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > Make Mine Marvel! RIP, Stan. You were undoubtedly the most influential person in American comics history. That’s really hard to say because if there weren’t some giants before him, he probably has little influence. If DC, and in particular Julius Schwartz, doesn’t restart the super-hero, Marvel may never move out of the Monster phase. If Siegel and Shuster don’t produce Superman, it may never get started. ---
**Author:** ![Lantern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d26b3c/32.png) [@Lantern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lantern)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-stan-lee/824418/33 "2018-11-12T21:05:17Z")
Lee’s death along with Ditko’s earlier this year marks the end of an era not just in comics but of 20th century pop culture. Quite staggering how much Lee’s creations dominate the global box office and the popular imagination in 2018. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-stan-lee/824418/34 "2018-11-12T21:15:15Z")
I hope he had a bunch of scenes pre-recorded for use in cameos. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-stan-lee/824418/35 "2018-11-12T21:43:22Z")
> [@OldGuy](#): > > That’s really hard to say because if there weren’t some giants before him, he probably has little influence. If DC, and in particular Julius Schwartz, doesn’t restart the super-hero, Marvel may never move out of the Monster phase. If Siegel and Shuster don’t produce Superman, it may never get started. Everyone has his own opinion. I’ll stick with mine. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-stan-lee/824418/36 "2018-11-12T21:44:12Z")
A comics giant, and I always enjoyed his movie cameos. May he rest in peace. > [@Onomatopoeia](#): > > It is sad that Stan Lee is dead, but those close to him in his final years abused and took advantage of him which, I suspect hastened his demise. Really? Hadn’t heard that before. How so? ---
**Author:** ![Baal\_Houtham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baal_houtham/32/13604_2.png) [@Baal\_Houtham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baal_Houtham)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-stan-lee/824418/37 "2018-11-12T21:47:10Z")
Speaking of Avengers #4,[that comic](https://www.marvel.com/comics/issue/7285/avengers_1963_4) (not the movie) came into my life in the early 1960’s, and shortly thereafter I became Marvel obsessed. Every month I scraped together the money to buy every title they published (other than Millie the Model and other female oriented lines). Mr. Lee’s fingerprints are all over my personality. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-stan-lee/824418/38 "2018-11-12T21:49:18Z")
Goodbye, Stan the Man. Excelsior. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-stan-lee/824418/39 "2018-11-12T21:52:31Z")
Sad to hear it, of course. I grew up with his work, just becoming literate when the Marvel Silver age started, a couple of years after DC’s. I got Fantastic Four #16 from the newsstand and was hooked. DC comics were more sci-fi and cerebral, but Lee’s Marvel comics went for the gut and emotion, and his heroes-with-flaws were a welcome change, along with the whole series of comments and asides in the stories, and the credits they gave to artists and writers. Of course, plastering his name on everything was easy to poke fun at. DC’s _Angel and the Ape_ featured a boastful comics editor named Stan Bragg who insisted on credits for himself at the expense of the other creators, parodying Lee himself. On a more somber note, it’s been argued that Lee’s hogging the credit (and also for philosophical disagreements) is what caused the rift between him and Jack Kirby and resulted in Kirby leaving Marvel for DC. (The “Marvel Process of Creation” actually had Kirby basically creating the story and Lee coming up with the dialogue. Although I love Kirby’s art to death, I’ve never been impressed when he wrote the dialogue). On the other hand, when they worked together the results were sublime. Kirby both drew and wrote a “What If…?” comic in which the members of the Fantastic Four were really their real-life creators from the Marvel Bullpen. Mister Fantastic was Stan Lee, and Kirby, naturally, was The Thing, chomping on his omnipresent stogie. It looked believable. Although the dialogue sucked. I think he mellowed in later years, and he was definitely a good ambassador for the MCU. He continued to push the Marvel brand, pretty successfully. He’s survived by his younger brother, Larry Leiber, who didn’t change the family name. Larry was an artist, writer, and editor, too. He co-created several central Marvel characters and scripted their origins. Maybe he can get some cameos now ---
**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-stan-lee/824418/40 "2018-11-12T21:52:38Z")
[MSN](https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/news/marvel-comics-legend-stan-lee-dies-at-95/ar-BBPCSj8?li=BBnb7Kz) explains a lot at the end heres some of his work : [MSN](https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/gallery/stan-lee/ss-BBPCXdQ?li=BBnb7Kz#image=12) heres a lot of reactions [MSN](https://www.msn.com/en-us/entertainment/celebrity/celebrities-react-to-the-passing-of-stan-lee/ss-BBPDguC?li=BBnb7Kz#image=1) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-stan-lee/824418.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rip-stan-lee/824418.md?page=3)