# Rishi Sunak tries to lead the UK

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [October 24, 2022, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rishi-sunak-tries-to-lead-the-uk/973706 "2022-10-24T13:07:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2023, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rishi-sunak-tries-to-lead-the-uk/973706/262 "2023-01-10T17:08:56Z")

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The Borissar vanishes!

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**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2023, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rishi-sunak-tries-to-lead-the-uk/973706/263 "2023-01-10T22:03:25Z")

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Seriously? “Should I do this thing that will almost certainly be immediately noticed and make people compare me to Stalin? I don’t see a downside!”

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**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2023, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rishi-sunak-tries-to-lead-the-uk/973706/264 "2023-01-10T23:01:54Z")

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It must have taken some effort to paint in the missing background so convincingly.

Unless… the original photo was itself a photoshop, originally taken in an office in Downing Street, and with the spacecraft in the background digitally added afterwards. Then it would be a trivial task to excise Johnson from the image.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2023, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rishi-sunak-tries-to-lead-the-uk/973706/265 "2023-01-10T23:50:49Z")

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“Boris? Boris who?”

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**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rishi-sunak-tries-to-lead-the-uk/973706/266 "2023-01-11T17:32:10Z")

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Ehh, content aware fill is pretty good.

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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2023, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rishi-sunak-tries-to-lead-the-uk/973706/267 "2023-01-12T16:33:39Z")

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Weird news, considering the **massive success** of Brexit in the UK as the Tories keep telling us:

> **[Support for leaving EU has fallen significantly across bloc since Brexit](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jan/12/support-for-leaving-eu-has-fallen-significantly-across-bloc-since-brexit)**
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> People less likely to vote leave in every EU member state for which data was available than in 2016-17, survey finds

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2023, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rishi-sunak-tries-to-lead-the-uk/973706/268 "2023-01-12T17:33:09Z")

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Gonna keep saying it: it’s been massively successful for the people the Tories care about. For anyone not a wealthy Tory donor, results have been more…mixed.

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**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2023, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rishi-sunak-tries-to-lead-the-uk/973706/269 "2023-01-12T19:11:54Z")

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“Voting for face-eating leopards has not panned out as the liberating and economy-growing move we were promised, especially since the leopards have taken to eating my face.”

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**Author:** ![filmstar-en](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/50afbb/32.png) [@filmstar-en](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/filmstar-en)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2023, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rishi-sunak-tries-to-lead-the-uk/973706/270 "2023-01-13T18:03:39Z")

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The purpose of Brexit was to put the Boris Johnson faction into power as PM. It worked for a time, until his party grew tired of the mismanagement and incompetence. Now he has gone and the Truss has gone and there there are other, more pressing things to do than beating that particular drum. Governing the country and managing the economy through an energy crisis. Brexit will be quietly forgotten.

Has it been massively successful for anyone? Maybe financial speculators who bet on the economy going into recession. Short sellers?

I’d like to know who the winners are.

It is not as obvious as the crooks in the VIP lane who made money out of selling dodgy protective equipment during the Covid pandemic.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2023, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rishi-sunak-tries-to-lead-the-uk/973706/271 "2023-01-13T18:05:53Z")

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> [@filmstar-en](#):
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> Has it been massively successful for anyone? Maybe financial speculators who bet on the economy going into recession. Short sellers?
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> I’d like to know who the winners are.

Disaster capitalists, the Conservative Party, Conservative Party donors, and any companies who would prefer not to have to deal with those pesky EU regulations.

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**Author:** ![filmstar-en](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/50afbb/32.png) [@filmstar-en](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/filmstar-en)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2023, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rishi-sunak-tries-to-lead-the-uk/973706/272 "2023-01-13T18:46:50Z")

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I don’t anyone bragging about it. In fact the farmers and fishermen who were so voluble in their resentment of all things EU are now screaming for workers and subsidies. Exporters the EU now have to deal with a mountain of EU regulation. Even Tim Martin, the owner of a pub chain famous for selling cheap beer, is disappointed that he his seeing no Brexit benefits and he has had to close some pubs.

The EU got the blame for lot of structural problems in the UK economy. Those problems have not gone away. It requires the government to take the initiative with their new found freedom and fix all the things that were blamed on the EU holding the UK back. But they haven’t! Those loud mouthed business moguls playing politics by financing Brexit campaigns are deeply unimpressed.

This was always a Tory party internal peeing contest. But they raised the stakes by turning it into national issue and wasted huge amounts of time and political capital in the process.

I suspect that there were few winners. Boris had his time in the limelight, parading around as PM. But he never took the job that seriously. He was not one for detail.

It is now left to Sunak and Hunt to pick up the pieces and deal with the massive borrowing. Hopefully they may know a bit more about how the economy works than Johnson and Truss.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2023, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rishi-sunak-tries-to-lead-the-uk/973706/273 "2023-01-13T19:06:19Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> any companies who would prefer not to have to deal with those pesky EU regulations.

As @filmstar-en says, British companies who want to do business with the EU countries still have to deal with all those pesky EU regulations. The only difference is that Britain no longer has any input into those pesky EU regulations, which it used to have as a member of the EU.

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**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2023, 7:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rishi-sunak-tries-to-lead-the-uk/973706/274 "2023-01-14T07:24:01Z")

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> As @filmstar-en says, British companies who want to do business with the EU countries still have to deal with all those pesky EU regulations. The only difference is that Britain no longer has any input into those pesky EU regulations, which it used to have as a member of the EU.

They also have a lot more paperwork to do on top, since we are outside the single market/customs union and they have to certify/prove that they meet all those regulatory requirements. Hence Johnson’s Northern Ireland protocol and all the trouble that’s causing.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2023, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rishi-sunak-tries-to-lead-the-uk/973706/275 "2023-01-17T05:16:15Z")

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Oh, _this_ is going to smooth things over with Scotland…

> **[Rishi Sunak blocks Scotland’s gender recognition legislation](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jan/16/rishi-sunak-blocks-scotlands-gender-recognition-legislation)**
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> UK ministers to use provisions in Scotland Act to block legislation making it easier for transgender people to self-identify

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**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2023, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rishi-sunak-tries-to-lead-the-uk/973706/276 "2023-01-17T05:39:05Z")

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I predict within the next 10 years that Scotlands going to leave the UK legally or not …

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**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2023, 7:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rishi-sunak-tries-to-lead-the-uk/973706/277 "2023-01-17T07:59:14Z")

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And we shall have endless debates about how to pronounce Scexit.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2023, 9:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rishi-sunak-tries-to-lead-the-uk/973706/278 "2023-01-17T09:54:11Z")

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Scotland will prefer to self-identify as “not-UK”.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2023, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rishi-sunak-tries-to-lead-the-uk/973706/279 "2023-01-17T12:04:08Z")

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> [@PatrickLondon](#):
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> And we shall have endless debates about how to pronounce Scexit.

I will enjoy all the vids shouting “sex-it, sex-it up!” to the tune of that old Devo tune “whit-it, whip it good”:

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/j_QLzthSkfM/maxresdefault.jpg "Devo - Whip It (Official Music Video) | Warner Vault") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_QLzthSkfM)

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**Post date:** [January 18, 2023, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rishi-sunak-tries-to-lead-the-uk/973706/280 "2023-01-18T01:45:18Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> I will enjoy all the vids shouting “sex-it, sex-it up!” to the tune of that old Devo tune “whit-it, whip it good”:

The Cars’ “Shake It Up” fits much better.

[![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/K3SA5Z-cbC8/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEmCOADEOgC8quKqQMa8AEB-AH-BIAC4AOKAgwIABABGH8gSCgTMA8=&rs=AOn4CLBbDbPz8gsUkoJnhChw6nua-jjKWQ "The Cars - Shake It Up (Official Music Video)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3SA5Z-cbC8)

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**Author:** ![Wrenching\_Spanners](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ecb155/32.png) [@Wrenching\_Spanners](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wrenching_Spanners)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2023, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rishi-sunak-tries-to-lead-the-uk/973706/281 "2023-01-18T17:33:59Z")

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> [@filmstar-en](#):
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> Has it been massively successful for anyone? Maybe financial speculators who bet on the economy going into recession. Short sellers?
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> I’d like to know who the winners are.

Low-skilled and semi-skilled workers in the private sector. One of the reasons people voted for Brexit was that they felt that the supply of workers from continental Europe was suppressing the prosects and wages of domestic British workers. Predictably, after Brexit, a lot of the workers from EU countries left Britain. This was exacerbated by the Covid pandemic when workers who were furloughed, or lost their jobs, returned to their home countries. That actually resulted in a worker/skills shortage in several industries which has been widely reported. The people who were working in jobs where there were worker/skills shortage mostly had their wages increased due to the supply diminishment.

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