# Rishi Sunak tries to lead the UK **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [October 24, 2022, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rishi-sunak-tries-to-lead-the-uk/973706 "2022-10-24T13:07:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 18
**Author:** ![Smid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/838e76/32.png) [@Smid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smid)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2023, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rishi-sunak-tries-to-lead-the-uk/973706/342 "2023-03-01T14:16:21Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > How can this pass without recognition or comment? A pliant unquestioning media. Give it a week and he’ll claim he never said that. It’s pretty much what the Brexit playbook is. ---
**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2023, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rishi-sunak-tries-to-lead-the-uk/973706/343 "2023-03-01T15:36:46Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > How can this pass without recognition or comment? It hasn’t, among the broader commentariat. But it won’t get much traction in effective politics because Labour won’t want to be seen re-hashing the entire Brexit argument again. At best (and then probably only if they do indeed win the next election) there’d be a softly softly and piecemeal managerialist smoothing off the rough edges rather than tearing down the whole ramshackle mess (which is also roughly Sunak’s approach). ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2023, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rishi-sunak-tries-to-lead-the-uk/973706/344 "2023-03-01T15:58:24Z")
Yeah, you don’t? unless I’m missusing the term? the refrigerator keeps tomatoes fresh for days, what’s the problem?. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2023, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rishi-sunak-tries-to-lead-the-uk/973706/345 "2023-03-01T16:01:50Z")
> [@Frodo](#): > > Gotcha, cultural differences, we practically never use tinned tomatoes for example. Until modern transportation and refrigeration trucks, the only way to have tomatoes from October to summer where I live would have been tinned or home-preserved. ---
**Author:** ![SanVito](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sanvito/32/2805_2.png) [@SanVito](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SanVito)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2023, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rishi-sunak-tries-to-lead-the-uk/973706/346 "2023-03-01T16:35:31Z")
This may derail the thread, but tomatoes are one of those foods that do better at room temperature - chilling them makes them lose flavour and texture (they lose their juiciness in the fridge). Same is true for a lot of fruit and veg, hence they don’t tend to be in the fridge section of supermarkets. > **[20 Surprising Foods You Don't Need to Put in the Refrigerator](https://www.eatthis.com/non-fridge-foods/)** > > Certain items taste better—and are actually healthier for you—when they're stored at room temperature. Find out the foods that don't need refrigeration. ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2023, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rishi-sunak-tries-to-lead-the-uk/973706/347 "2023-03-01T16:37:25Z")
Interesting, I may experiment with leaving them out of the fridge and seeing if my salad tastes better. ---
**Author:** ![SanVito](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sanvito/32/2805_2.png) [@SanVito](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SanVito)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2023, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rishi-sunak-tries-to-lead-the-uk/973706/348 "2023-03-01T16:37:56Z")
Ooh yes, put half in the fridge and leave half out. Report back! ---
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2023, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rishi-sunak-tries-to-lead-the-uk/973706/349 "2023-03-01T19:47:10Z")
I don’t know, man - with the plastic-y, tasteless, vaguely tomatoesque things I mostly see in my grocery store, it might be a distinction without a difference. However, putting good heirloom tomatoes in the fridge is a sin. And the sun-warmed ones you just picked from the tomato plant in your backyard? Chilling those is a crime against humanity. ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2023, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rishi-sunak-tries-to-lead-the-uk/973706/350 "2023-03-01T22:54:28Z")
Yeah I was thinking that with modern tomatoes refrigeration may not make any difference, I’ll try anyway when next I buy them (may be next week? not in a tomato eating mood lately) ---
**Author:** ![Treppenwitz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treppenwitz/32/3445_2.png) [@Treppenwitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Treppenwitz)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2023, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rishi-sunak-tries-to-lead-the-uk/973706/351 "2023-03-08T16:14:07Z")
A couple of recent polls, in the wake of Rishi’s much vaunted Northern Ireland deal. > **[Latest GB Voting Intention (5 March 2023)](https://redfieldandwiltonstrategies.com/latest-gb-voting-intention-5-march-2023/)** > > Redfield & Wilton Strategies’ latest voting intention poll in Great Britain finds the Labour Party leading by 26%, one point less than in our … I assume the 1% drop in the Labour lead is within the margin of error of polling. Meanwhile, in the so-called “Red Wall” constituencies (traditionally Labour, but comprehensively taken by the Conservatives in the last election) Labour have a (slightly diminished) lead of 22%: > **[Latest Red Wall Voting Intention (5 March 2023)](https://redfieldandwiltonstrategies.com/latest-red-wall-voting-intention-5-march-2023/)** > > One of the critical questions for the next General Election in the United Kingdom will be whether the Conservative Party can hold onto the … j ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2023, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rishi-sunak-tries-to-lead-the-uk/973706/352 "2023-03-08T18:17:18Z")
I am not into twitter, so when I was made aware of this Rishi Sunak tweet today I was not sure whether it was a spoof, his account had been hacked or he simply does not read what his overworked and underslept interns write in his name (there is a blue sign in the original website, whatever that is worth in Twitterland): > There is also the remote possibility that he is simply telling it as it is. But no, he wouldn’t. ---
**Author:** ![iamatractorboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iamatractorboy/32/21261_2.png) [@iamatractorboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamatractorboy)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2023, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rishi-sunak-tries-to-lead-the-uk/973706/353 "2023-03-08T18:23:15Z")
Wait a sec… is this actually REAL?! ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2023, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rishi-sunak-tries-to-lead-the-uk/973706/354 "2023-03-08T18:25:10Z")
I don’t know, I never use Twitter, but at first glance it looks legit. I guess somebody forgot the word “protection” between “slavery” and “system” and nobody noticed. But it could also be fake. ---
**Author:** ![colinfred](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colinfred/32/21338_2.png) [@colinfred](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/colinfred)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2023, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rishi-sunak-tries-to-lead-the-uk/973706/355 "2023-03-08T18:42:25Z")
Let’s face it Sunak and Braverman are talking a good game today, but the PM and the Home Secretary in various incarnations have been talking and talking and talking for ages and the boats just will not stop. Hopefully this will discourage the migrants but I doubt it. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2023, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rishi-sunak-tries-to-lead-the-uk/973706/356 "2023-03-08T18:54:14Z")
I take it from the wording that if you come to the UK legally, you’re allowed to make all the spurious humans claims you want? ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2023, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rishi-sunak-tries-to-lead-the-uk/973706/357 "2023-03-08T18:55:14Z")
HuffPost has picked up on this, so it’s going to be difficult for the PM’s office to quietly delete that and pretend it never happened. > **[Confusing Government Messaging On Migrants Has Left People Baffled](https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/uk-illegally-access-modern-slavery-system_uk_64079be6e4b0e0a15960ed27)** > > "Is this graphic boasting about the UK’s modern slavery system? Like we have the best slaves?" Unless it’s less a mistake and more an accurate description of the Tories’ idea of the UK post-Brexit labor market. 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2023, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rishi-sunak-tries-to-lead-the-uk/973706/358 "2023-03-08T19:03:00Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > you’re allowed to make all the spurious humans claims you want? Why, yes, of course! Spurious humans claims\* are to the UK like the first Amendment is to the USA. You just have to be able to keep a straight face and you can get away with anything. \* Sic! But a a good one! ---
**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2023, 7:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rishi-sunak-tries-to-lead-the-uk/973706/359 "2023-03-09T07:32:48Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > you’re allowed to make all the spurious humans claims you want? How else did this shower get into government in the first place? ---
**Author:** ![Stanislaus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stanislaus/32/3391_2.png) [@Stanislaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stanislaus)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2023, 9:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rishi-sunak-tries-to-lead-the-uk/973706/360 "2023-03-09T09:36:59Z")
> [@iamatractorboy](#): > > Wait a sec… is this actually REAL?! All too real, sadly. The jury’s out on to what extent the Tory Government actually believe this is sensible public policy that will achieve results that make Britain a better place, and to what extent they think this is what it takes to win votes, but either way they are putting a lot of chips on the square marked “disturbingly far-right rhetoric and massive human rights violations”. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2023, 9:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rishi-sunak-tries-to-lead-the-uk/973706/361 "2023-03-09T09:41:24Z")
So the policy is now that human traffickers can do what they want to their victims with impunity, because the victims will have no legal recourse at all. Another step in the ongoing “Discourage immigration by making the UK a dystopian hellhole” policy the Conservatives are wedded to. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rishi-sunak-tries-to-lead-the-uk/973706.md?page=17) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rishi-sunak-tries-to-lead-the-uk/973706.md?page=19)