# Rishi Sunak tries to lead the UK **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [October 24, 2022, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rishi-sunak-tries-to-lead-the-uk/973706 "2022-10-24T13:07:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 30
**Author:** ![pjd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pjd/32/3009_2.png) [@pjd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pjd)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2024, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rishi-sunak-tries-to-lead-the-uk/973706/582 "2024-01-07T20:13:30Z")
> [@PatrickLondon](#): > > And one more by-election is definitely on the cards: > > [Peter Bone: How Wellingborough ended up with a by-election - BBC News](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-northamptonshire-67759402) And the tories have picked as replacement candidate for his old seat … his partner. > **[Conservatives pick Peter Bone's partner as candidate for his old seat](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67905750)** > > North Northamptonshire councillor Helen Harrison becomes Tory candidate in Wellingborough by-election. ---
**Author:** ![Oswald\_Bastable](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oswald_bastable/32/214_2.png) [@Oswald\_Bastable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oswald_Bastable)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2024, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rishi-sunak-tries-to-lead-the-uk/973706/583 "2024-01-07T20:33:13Z")
> [@pjd](#): > > And the tories have picked as replacement candidate for his old seat … his partner. Supposedly because he’d threatened to stand as an independent if she was not the chosen candidate. It must be so hard for the Tories to decide between losing badly while maintaining their integrity. Or probably still losing, maybe slightly less badly, without any integrity. OB ---
**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2024, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rishi-sunak-tries-to-lead-the-uk/973706/584 "2024-01-07T20:46:21Z")
I thought Bone was famous for constantly referring to “Mrs Bone” in the Commons - is this she, or is this a replacement? I like to keep on top of the details. ---
**Author:** ![UDS1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e47774/32.png) [@UDS1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UDS1)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2024, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rishi-sunak-tries-to-lead-the-uk/973706/585 "2024-01-08T01:18:31Z")
Separated in 2016, apparently. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2024, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rishi-sunak-tries-to-lead-the-uk/973706/586 "2024-01-08T11:59:38Z")
> [@Oswald\_Bastable](#): > > It must be so hard for the Tories to decide between losing badly while maintaining their integrity. Objection. Assumes they have any integrity left to maintain in the first place. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2024, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rishi-sunak-tries-to-lead-the-uk/973706/587 "2024-01-08T19:08:57Z")
Sustained. ---
**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2024, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rishi-sunak-tries-to-lead-the-uk/973706/588 "2024-01-09T07:10:37Z")
Well well well… > **[Sunak refuses to endorse Peter Bone’s partner to replace him in byelection](https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/jan/08/sunak-refuses-endorse-peter-bone-partner-wellingborough-byelection)** > > PM dodges opportunity to give backing to Helen Harrison as the Conservative candidate for Wellingborough seat ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2024, 7:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rishi-sunak-tries-to-lead-the-uk/973706/589 "2024-01-09T07:29:50Z")
Bone shafted? ETA: reading the article, maybe more like Bone passive-aggressively mildly disrespected. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2024, 10:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rishi-sunak-tries-to-lead-the-uk/973706/590 "2024-01-09T10:13:23Z")
That does sound very British. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2024, 10:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rishi-sunak-tries-to-lead-the-uk/973706/591 "2024-01-09T10:14:49Z")
You could just go with “Boned”. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2024, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rishi-sunak-tries-to-lead-the-uk/973706/592 "2024-01-10T01:03:22Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > ETA: reading the article, maybe more like Bone passive-aggressively mildly disrespected. > [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > That does sound very British. Why did I hear Frankie Boyle’s voice while I read that sentence in **Riemann’s** post… ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2024, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rishi-sunak-tries-to-lead-the-uk/973706/593 "2024-01-13T21:29:43Z")
![](https://media1.tenor.com/m/xq7uvpVyji8AAAAd/bone-holt.gif) ---
**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2024, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rishi-sunak-tries-to-lead-the-uk/973706/594 "2024-01-17T16:23:39Z")
More chaos: > **[Tory deputy chairmen resign party roles as government suffers significant...](https://news.sky.com/story/tory-deputy-chairmen-lee-anderson-and-brendan-clarke-smith-resign-after-backing-rwanda-bill-amendments-13049746)** > > Lee Anderson and Brendan Clarke-Smith stood down from their party roles after they backed proposals to toughen up Rishi Sunak's controversial Rwanda bill. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2024, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rishi-sunak-tries-to-lead-the-uk/973706/595 "2024-01-17T19:21:22Z")
I don’t recall if it’s been addressed before; if so, apologies; but: Why Rwanda ? How have the Tories chosen that particular country as a dumping ground? Did someone in the Tory party remember that there was a movie called “Hotel Rwanda” and think it was a travel documentary? ---
**Author:** ![iamatractorboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iamatractorboy/32/21261_2.png) [@iamatractorboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamatractorboy)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2024, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rishi-sunak-tries-to-lead-the-uk/973706/596 "2024-01-17T20:41:06Z")
They won the ‘Who Will Give Us the Most in Kickbacks’ bidding process? Who knows… ---
**Author:** ![JacobSwan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a6a055/32.png) [@JacobSwan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JacobSwan)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2024, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rishi-sunak-tries-to-lead-the-uk/973706/597 "2024-01-17T23:38:24Z")
Braverman has links to the government over there. Not saying they’re dodgy links, but she failed to declare them, which is usually a sign that something smells off. > **[Revealed: Suella Braverman accused of new ministerial code breaches over...](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/suella-braverman-rwanda-ministerial-code-breach-b2345537.html)** > > Exclusive: Home secretary was the director of a charity providing training to Rwandan government lawyers for five years ---
**Author:** ![UDS1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e47774/32.png) [@UDS1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UDS1)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rishi-sunak-tries-to-lead-the-uk/973706/598 "2024-01-18T01:12:23Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > I don’t recall if it’s been addressed before; if so, apologies; but: Why Rwanda ? How have the Tories chosen that particular country as a dumping ground? Because Rwanda was willing to enter into the deal with them? The list of countries willing to do this would not be long, and most of them would have much less credibility than Rwanda. ---
**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rishi-sunak-tries-to-lead-the-uk/973706/599 "2024-01-18T05:18:29Z")
According to Wikipedia, Rwanda had previously made similar deals with Denmark and Israel, both of which proposals fell into similar legal and political difficulties. You would thought that might have made Boris Johnson and Priti Patel think twice before proposing the idea. Oh, wait a minute… > **[Rwanda asylum plan](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rwanda_asylum_plan)** > > The Rwanda asylum plan (officially the UK and Rwanda Migration and Economic Development Partnership, also known as the Rwanda asylum scheme, the Rwanda plan and the Rwanda deal) is an immigration policy first proposed by the British government in April 2022 whereby people whom the United Kingdom identified as illegal immigrants or asylum seekers would have been relocated to Rwanda for processing, asylum and resettlement. Those who were successful in claiming asylum would have remained in Rwan... ---
**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rishi-sunak-tries-to-lead-the-uk/973706/600 "2024-01-18T07:09:13Z")
Of course, it’s all highly unlikely to happen. [Yes, the government’s bill has got through the Commons (so much for all those putative rebels)](https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/pmqs-today-rwanda-bill-vote-rishi-sunak-conservatives-parliament-b1132906.html), but the Lords could easily hold it up until the election is on us. ---
**Author:** ![Smid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/838e76/32.png) [@Smid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smid)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rishi-sunak-tries-to-lead-the-uk/973706/601 "2024-01-18T14:50:42Z")
I think there’s a couple of reasons it’s Rwanda. 1. It’s sufficiently genocidey and offensive that it is trolling its enemies. 2. For that reason it is unlikely to succeed. They want it to fail. The tories don’t want to succeed in immigration. They want to be seen to fail to blame it on their enemies. This was also the point of Brexit, which backfired by overpromising (and not so much under delivering, but making up all sorts of shit because they thought it doomed). 3. Some Tories have money in there. This is often the driving force of most tory policies. There is no doubt the substandard accomodation and dodgy boat companies are throwing money at the tories to get more cream. 4. The Rwandas don’t care and will take anyone. What isn’t being made clear, due to our wonderful press, is that the applicants are being deported. They will never be UK citizens. If they succeed in their claims, they get to stay in Rwanda, a country where asylum applications are currently being granted from in the UK. If they fail they’ll be expelled from Rwanda. This is not processing, this is deportation to another country. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rishi-sunak-tries-to-lead-the-uk/973706.md?page=29) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rishi-sunak-tries-to-lead-the-uk/973706.md?page=31)