# Rivers Cuomo is a jerk-off... **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 28, 2002, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rivers-cuomo-is-a-jerk-off/100512 "2002-03-28T04:35:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Phlip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Phlip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phlip)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2002, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rivers-cuomo-is-a-jerk-off/100512/1 "2002-03-28T04:35:03Z")
I have always held a special corner of my heart for Weezer. They make awsome music. Then I got the new issue of guitar world… This guy is an ate up dips\*\*t. At the end of the article he goes on about how he hates fans and never talks to any of Weezers fans because they are all annoying. He wouldnt go to the the location to get his picture taken for the cover so they had to take his pic in his hotel room and cut him out against a redd background for the cover. If you havent read this article and love Weezer, don’t pick up Guitar World this month. It will put a dent in your love. Was this dude always such an ass? ---
**Author:** ![Slacker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@Slacker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slacker)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2002, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rivers-cuomo-is-a-jerk-off/100512/2 "2002-03-28T04:50:56Z")
I had kind of the same feeling when I picked up their second CD. The first one was this wonderful, insecure, geek-rock masterpiece. A lot of the songs on Butterfly fit more in the “horny jerk” category. Then after 5 years, we get a third CD, packed full of **28 minutes of freaking music**. They may as well have called it “F.U.”, the message to their fans was clear enough. I just hope we continue to hear from the Rentals. Their second album was just plain awesome. ---
**Author:** ![HoldenCaulfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/22d042/32.png) [@HoldenCaulfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HoldenCaulfield)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2002, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rivers-cuomo-is-a-jerk-off/100512/3 "2002-03-28T06:28:48Z")
I saw Weezer live a couple months ago and Rivers did seem a little “Bleh.” Was kind of a put off. I still like their music and I really loved _Pinkerton_. ---
**Author:** ![reoch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a9adbd/32.png) [@reoch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/reoch)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2002, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rivers-cuomo-is-a-jerk-off/100512/4 "2002-03-28T12:38:28Z")
I like him for the bitch that he is!!!..he’s anti-social to begin with… you read in the article, life revolves around music. He doesn’t go out much and also if you know anything about Weezer, it kinda hurt him that Pinkerton was not accepted by his fans at first because that album was so personal to him (now there’s like a cult following to that album)…that’s why when he gets requests for it, he kinda gets pissed off and doesn’t want to play it. I actually found the article amusing…I guess it doesn’t affect true hardcore fan like myself…it still doesn’t change me loving WEEZER…my favorite band…ROCK ON…😃 ---
**Author:** ![TripleAnt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e19adc/32.png) [@TripleAnt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TripleAnt)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2002, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rivers-cuomo-is-a-jerk-off/100512/5 "2002-03-28T18:12:27Z")
Yeah he does seem a little aloof and just wants to play music. I was kinda shocked when I picked up their last cd and it was only 28 minutes long, but hey what can you do. The songs from their upcoming album (it’s coming out in a few months I believe) are really good. I saw them live a few months ago and they do put on a good show. I’m not worried about what he thinks, they still play great music. ---
**Author:** ![Fouccalt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/df788c/32.png) [@Fouccalt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fouccalt)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2002, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rivers-cuomo-is-a-jerk-off/100512/6 "2002-03-28T18:45:08Z")
I liked Weezer when I saw them in December, they did some weird things though, like why open a show up with a new song?? They only played one song from Pinkerton(thank God) and they played like 4 new songs which I assume are going to be on the new album coming out next month. I still love the band and love the music. Go Weezer =W= ---
**Author:** ![pezpunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7ea924/32.png) [@pezpunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pezpunk)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2002, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rivers-cuomo-is-a-jerk-off/100512/7 "2002-03-28T19:06:10Z")
I have to say it and Im sure someone will back me up. Pinkerton is by far my favorite album by weezer. The first album is fun and a great cd but lacks real passion. Pinkerton is fun and depressing and shows a more mature Weezer. I saw an article with Rivers Cuomo after Pinkerton came out and he said something to the effect of people really liked the first album and kept saying they want to hear more personal songs. So they went into the studio and did Pinkerton. Fans hated it but critics loved it. Fact is… you can’t win. I say blue and green albums are fun but lack substance. ---
**Author:** ![reoch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a9adbd/32.png) [@reoch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/reoch)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2002, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rivers-cuomo-is-a-jerk-off/100512/8 "2002-03-28T23:29:26Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by pezpunk \* > \*\*I have to say it and Im sure someone will back me up. Pinkerton is by far my favorite album by weezer. The first album is fun and a great cd but lacks real passion. Pinkerton is fun and depressing and shows a more mature Weezer. I saw an article with Rivers Cuomo after Pinkerton came out and he said something to the effect of people really liked the first album and kept saying they want to hear more personal songs. So they went into the studio and did Pinkerton. Fans hated it but critics loved it. Fact is… you can’t win. > > I say blue and green albums are fun but lack substance. \*\* I totally agree with you **pezpunk**. To me, the blue and green album was just made for radio and so…poppy (not that I’m complaining or anything). The pinkerton album was so personal and deep and something about that I love. I hear people complaining about the length of the green album (28min) and I say it’s not ‘quantity’ it’s the ‘quality’ baby!! I’d rather hear 28 min of great music rather than 45 min of extended crap…my thoughts… Reoch ---
**Author:** ![Neil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/839c29/32.png) [@Neil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neil)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2002, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rivers-cuomo-is-a-jerk-off/100512/9 "2002-03-29T00:18:14Z")
I have the blue album…I’d never heard them until the band I used to be in decided to cover “Buddy Holly” to fill some space in our set (and as a horn player at the time anyway, I wasn’t too involved in that song). I like the blue album, and I may check out Pinkerton sometime. I can’t really stand to listen to the blue album too often, though, because there’s not a single interesting bass line that I can recall, and without that, you’ve lost me. As for Rivers seeming like a jerk…well, maybe. On the other hand, I can’t say I wouldn’t be the same way in his position- I apparently come off as anti-social sometimes. ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2002, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rivers-cuomo-is-a-jerk-off/100512/10 "2002-03-29T01:18:54Z")
I’m a casual Weezer fan: I have the Blue ablum, saw them on the Pinkerton tour, and generally like their singles. But why the hell is there a Weezer tribute album? I was in shock when I saw it in Bullmoose (an indie chain in ME/NH) on Sunday. There are tons of more established, and more sucessful, bands, so why do they get this treatment? Then again, I’ve only heard of one Band on the CD(the Ataris) so maybe it’s not such an honor after all. ---
**Author:** ![reoch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a9adbd/32.png) [@reoch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/reoch)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2002, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rivers-cuomo-is-a-jerk-off/100512/11 "2002-03-29T03:07:22Z")
Goes to show how influential their music are…there’s TWO tribute albums out there by the way…hehe Reoch ---
**Author:** ![Kyomara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8edcca/32.png) [@Kyomara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyomara)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2002, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rivers-cuomo-is-a-jerk-off/100512/12 "2002-03-29T04:26:15Z")
One more vote here for Pinkerton, although I don’t prefer it over the blue album, I just really like both of them. The Blue album is hummable and gets completely stuck in your head and stands up tp repeated listening. Pinkerton is more sporadic and sloppy, but I like the realness of it. And he’s certainly very honest about his self-hatred. And how funny is “Butterfly?” Really funny, that’s how funny. Haven’t heard the Green album. As for why there are already tribute albums…I thought it was a little silly too, but think about it. Weezer is a band that most people can agree on. They’re like the Beatles of indy rock…even though their not indy and that comparison sounds really lame, but I think you know what I mean. Whether you’re normally into harder stuff or softer stuff or weirder stuff, chances are you like Weezer. Their songs are also simple enough that a lot of new bands probably already have 5 or 6 good Weezer covers down pat. So it wasn’t a long step to a covers album. By the way, has anyone heard either of the cover albums? Are they any good? By the other way, Rivers Cuomo has a massive thing for Asian girls (“thing” meaning “interest in,” not “cock”), and my bandmate was telling me about a translated interview with Rivers the last time he came through Tokyo. He conducted the interview surrounded by five nubile Japanese girls. At the end of the interview he said “Alright, get out. It’s time to have sex.” True? Maybe not. Good story? Yeah. Jealous? Oh…a tad… ---
**Author:** ![RocknRoll\_Killing\_Machine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/5daacb/32.png) [@RocknRoll\_Killing\_Machine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RocknRoll_Killing_Machine)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2002, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rivers-cuomo-is-a-jerk-off/100512/13 "2002-03-29T12:35:33Z")
Is Bill Waterson an asshole too? and Pinkerton is very, very good. ---
**Author:** ![reoch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a9adbd/32.png) [@reoch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/reoch)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2002, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rivers-cuomo-is-a-jerk-off/100512/14 "2002-03-30T01:32:59Z")
I do infact own BOTH cover albums so I guess I’ll share some highlights from them. As for the **Making Noise: Tribute To Weezer** Album, most of the songs sound the same as weezer but some, like **No One Else** has a techno beat to it (pretty funky), **Devotion** is slowed down (and really nice), **Good Life** is more punk rock, a very funky version of **Sweater Song**. The rest are mostly the same except for some girls singing the songs. **Tribute Weezer : Weezer Tribute-Rock Music** is as you can probably tell by the bands on it, is REALLY hard rock…a real good tribute. Some highlights include **Jamie** by Dashboard Confessional is a great acoustic version, **Susanne** is pretty rockin’, **Only in Dreams** is rockin’ (but the original is THE best). Hope this helps…I really like both of them…can’t say which is better…😃 Reoch ---
**Author:** ![White\_Lightning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@White\_Lightning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Lightning)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2002, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rivers-cuomo-is-a-jerk-off/100512/15 "2002-03-30T02:54:57Z")
I was hugely disappointed by the recent tribute, whatever it was called, from Dead Droid. Blargh. None of the bands invested any creativity into their covers at all. I was especially disappointed with Piebald’s effort on _No One Else_, them being one of my favorite bands. Almost all the vocalists on the album mimicked Rivers’ every vocal idiosyncracy, and it ended up sounding like a bunch of second-rate bands trying to sound as much like Weezer as they could, which is sad, since all those songs have so much potential. **reoch** , I would disagree with the statement that it is ‘REALLY hard rock.’ Especially since the first song you mention is by Dashboard, about as far from hard rock as you can get. The Ataris cover of _Butterfly_ was atrocious. I thought the better songs were actually the harder ones, mostly by the lesser-known bands. Glasseater’s _Holiday_, Grade’s _Surf Wax America_ and Affinitiy’s _My Name Is Jonas_ were all slightly more punk-y versions of the originals, although they were still pretty close to carbon copies. And by the way, **elfkin477** , many people have heard of these bands and many of them are actually quite well-respected. The Impossibles are (were ☹ ) among the most highly regarded indie rock bands out there. Dashboard Confessional gets almost universal critical acclaim. So just because you haven’t heard of them doesn’t mean they don’t matter. I know you didn’t _really_ say that, but I’m offended because there are a couple really good bands on there that you’re dismissing. On preview, and another listen-through, you’re right about one thing, **reoch** , Midtown’s _Susanne_ is pretty good, although it could have used another visit or two from the mixing fairy. Ehh, who am I kidding. I’m just pissed off that the Piebald song sucked. I had advance notice about the Impossibles song being a disappointment, since they released their cover of _The Good Life_ on their own site a while before the tribute came out, but I was looking forward to hearing this album, and I felt really let down. ---
**Author:** ![Living\_Dead\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecb155/32.png) [@Living\_Dead\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Living_Dead_Girl)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2002, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rivers-cuomo-is-a-jerk-off/100512/16 "2002-03-30T03:16:10Z")
The thing about Cuomo that pisses _me_ off is because I, too, am a Pinkerton fan, but I’ve read more than one interview where he’s basically called them younger and more immature - saying that’s why they appreciate how emotional the album is. Uh, no… I appreciate how emotional the album can be because it makes it INTERESTING. The Green Album was just disappointing because it had no heart to it. The lyrics meant nothing, and while that was the _point_ according to Cuomo, it definitely meant they lost something to me. ---
**Author:** ![lorinada](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b5e925/32.png) [@lorinada](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lorinada)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2002, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rivers-cuomo-is-a-jerk-off/100512/17 "2002-03-30T03:57:11Z")
_Say It Ain’t So_ is the second best song in the world. So I’ve never been able to figure out why I like NOTHING ELSE by Weezer. ---
**Author:** ![reoch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a9adbd/32.png) [@reoch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/reoch)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2002, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rivers-cuomo-is-a-jerk-off/100512/18 "2002-03-30T05:44:05Z")
Whoops **White Lightning** , what I meant to say was that the Tribute Weezer : Weezer Tribute-Rock Music was really rock compared to the other tribute album…my bad. Reoch ---
**Author:** ![Kyomara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8edcca/32.png) [@Kyomara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyomara)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2002, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rivers-cuomo-is-a-jerk-off/100512/19 "2002-04-02T04:02:44Z")
Anyone seen them live? I saw a live video over the weekend and it looked kind of boring, but I didn’t watch the whole thing. Do they really just stand there and do nothing the whole time? ---
**Author:** ![yerpherp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/d78d45/32.png) [@yerpherp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yerpherp)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2013, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rivers-cuomo-is-a-jerk-off/100512/20 "2013-07-13T20:15:51Z")
I saw a video of them live and he seems nicer. I just think he was real shy and the rrasin he was dissin his fans might be because they asked him to make a more personal album, but when he did they didn’t like it Pinkerton is my favorite though [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rivers-cuomo-is-a-jerk-off/100512.md?page=2)