# RNC asking me to 're-confirm' that I'm still registered as a Republican **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 16, 2022, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rnc-asking-me-to-re-confirm-that-im-still-registered-as-a-republican/969722 "2022-08-16T00:02:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rnc-asking-me-to-re-confirm-that-im-still-registered-as-a-republican/969722/1 "2022-08-16T00:02:32Z")
Those bastards. It looks VERY official. Had to open it and read it to figure it out. It’s from the Republican National Committee. It says I need to **re-confirm** my affiliation as a Republican. I’m not registered at all. I’m unaffiliated. Of course it says we are going to become a Marxist Radical-Left country. And we must stop them cold (their words). And it has a bunch of loaded questions. And of course, the request for donations. IMHO, this constitutes mail fraud. Plain and simple. Those assholes. Bunch of crooks, the whole lot of them. Had to vent. I don’t get any kind of this type of absolute lying bullshit in my mailbox. I guess I’m lucky. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rnc-asking-me-to-re-confirm-that-im-still-registered-as-a-republican/969722/2 "2022-08-16T00:19:40Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > IMHO, this constitutes mail fraud. Plain and simple. Their simple out is that as far as they knew, you were previously registered. They didn’t know for certain you _weren’t_. In all honesty, as much as the RNC disgusts me, that isn’t any worse than any of the other junk mail I receive. If that was illegal, it all is. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rnc-asking-me-to-re-confirm-that-im-still-registered-as-a-republican/969722/3 "2022-08-16T00:22:44Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Of course it says we are going to become a Marxist Radical-Left country We are? Did they mention a date? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rnc-asking-me-to-re-confirm-that-im-still-registered-as-a-republican/969722/4 "2022-08-16T00:31:17Z")
I get online ads asking me to take a survey about Ron DeSantis. It’s put out by his campaign organization so I assume the questions will be a wee bit biased. That said, I’ve considered taking the survey so I can express my opinions about a potential DeSantis presidency (“it would be an even worse disaster than the Trump presidency”). I’d like to think this would eliminate my name from their target list. But I hesitate because these guys are pretty clueless and I worry that any response, even a negative one, might put my name on more mailing lists. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rnc-asking-me-to-re-confirm-that-im-still-registered-as-a-republican/969722/5 "2022-08-16T00:50:30Z")
Could you repost some of the questions here for our amusement/education? ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rnc-asking-me-to-re-confirm-that-im-still-registered-as-a-republican/969722/6 "2022-08-16T00:56:12Z")
I don’t actually reside in the County that they claim I do. My POB is there though. I’m not a registered republican. I’m independent. I’m good friends with the County Clerk there as well, worked together for 30+ years. I’m going to ping her about this. Everyone in that county will likely get one of these ‘official’ letters. From the RNC no less. AND ASKING TO RE-CONFIRM THAT I’M A REGISTERED REPUBLICAN. It includes an affiliation confirmation card. That get’s sent back with my donation. Isn’t this mail fraud? It’s a lie asking you for money. This should be class action stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rnc-asking-me-to-re-confirm-that-im-still-registered-as-a-republican/969722/7 "2022-08-16T01:34:40Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Isn’t this mail fraud? It’s a lie asking you for money. This should be class action stuff. No. They are asking you to register (or “re-register”), and asking for a donation. There is nothing criminal about that. Here is the definition of mail fraud. > **[mail fraud](https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/mail_fraud)** The RNC is asking you for donations. They aren’t misrepresenting who they are. You are not describing a crime. You are angry because someone you don’t like sent you junk mail and asked you for money. I’m a government employee in a union and I get mailers from conservative groups bad-mouthing my union and asking me to leave it. It annoys me, but there’s nothing criminal about it. They have all kinds of lies, and so what? Political groups always try to mislead people, that’s politics. ---
**Author:** ![cincinnatus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cincinnatus/32/7990_2.png) [@cincinnatus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cincinnatus)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rnc-asking-me-to-re-confirm-that-im-still-registered-as-a-republican/969722/8 "2022-08-16T02:47:58Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Here is the definition of mail fraud. To my untrained eye, that description in the link sounds pretty much what @enipla is describing. I wonder if we could use this to stop such subterfuge. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rnc-asking-me-to-re-confirm-that-im-still-registered-as-a-republican/969722/9 "2022-08-16T03:57:15Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Could you repost some of the questions here for our amusement/education? No, what I see is just an ad with lines like “Take the Ron DeSantis for President Survey”. You have to click the link to see the questions and I’ve been resisted the urge to click it (so far). ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rnc-asking-me-to-re-confirm-that-im-still-registered-as-a-republican/969722/10 "2022-08-16T04:11:25Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > The RNC is asking you for donations. And, apparently, lying to you about your (nonexistent) affiliation with the Republican Party, since they’re asking you to “re-confirm” it. Of course it’s a lie, but I question whether it’s a lie that rises (or sinks) to the level of actionable mail fraud. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rnc-asking-me-to-re-confirm-that-im-still-registered-as-a-republican/969722/11 "2022-08-16T05:39:30Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > Of course it’s a lie, but I question whether it’s a lie that rises (or sinks) to the level of actionable mail fraud. Bingo. If it claimed to be from the DNC and yet had you send money to the RNC, that would be fraud. I’m not kidding about this being relatively benign junk mail though. Most junk mail I get is even shadier. They claim all kinds of outrageous crap. The sad thing is, the USPS wouldn’t survive without it. ☹ > **[How We Ended Up With All This Junk Mail](https://www.vice.com/en/article/889wyv/how-we-ended-up-with-all-this-junk-mail)** > > The mind-boggling volume of junk mail is the product of consensus politics that the postal service should have to pay for itself. > But that would all change after the Postal Reorganization Act of 1970. It created the modern USPS as a corporatized agency that, by the next decade, would have to pay for itself without any government subsidy while also delivering mail to every American. Pretty quickly, postal executives realized the only way this would be even remotely possible was to both cut costs _and_ increase the volume of mail. > So the USPS tried to make up its losses with volume. It came up with ways to encourage companies to send more mail. > […]in the roughly 40 years from 1975 to 2015, American households went from getting 4.5 pieces of junk mail a week to four a day[…] It’s pretty bad but they are forced to do it. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rnc-asking-me-to-re-confirm-that-im-still-registered-as-a-republican/969722/12 "2022-08-16T05:55:29Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Did they mention a date? Jan 6, 2021. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rnc-asking-me-to-re-confirm-that-im-still-registered-as-a-republican/969722/13 "2022-08-16T06:29:48Z")
I’ve wasted my time with “surveys” like that for the 'pubbies. I proceeded through more than a few questions and the kicker at the end was to sign up for or donate to “the cause” to have my answers processed. Of course, I opted for no submission. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 10:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rnc-asking-me-to-re-confirm-that-im-still-registered-as-a-republican/969722/14 "2022-08-16T10:22:28Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Of course it says we are going to become a Marxist Radical-Left country. Yay! Oh, wait, I bet the context of the letter makes that sound like a _bad_ thing. Never mind. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rnc-asking-me-to-re-confirm-that-im-still-registered-as-a-republican/969722/15 "2022-08-16T12:08:34Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > > [@enipla](#): > > > > Of course it says we are going to become a Marxist Radical-Left country. > > Yay! Dos that mean we’ll finally get decent, affordable health care for all? ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rnc-asking-me-to-re-confirm-that-im-still-registered-as-a-republican/969722/16 "2022-08-16T12:16:11Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > I’ve wasted my time with “surveys” like that for the 'pubbies. I proceeded through more than a few questions and the kicker at the end was to sign up for or donate to “the cause” to have my answers processed. Of course, I opted for no submission. I’ve never seen that requirement, but in any case it’s useless to participate in political party push polls.\* \*while it might be fun to answer this one like the worst nightmare RINO possible and also request help in registering to vote as a Republican, I suspect such polling forms are automatically tossed into the trash, unless they’re accompanied by checks. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rnc-asking-me-to-re-confirm-that-im-still-registered-as-a-republican/969722/17 "2022-08-16T23:14:59Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > , I suspect such polling forms are automatically tossed into the trash, unless they’re accompanied by checks. I would go further to suggest that such polling forms are automatically tossed in the trash regardless of whether they are accompanied by checks (the checks are kept of course). There isn’t really a point in tallying the number of positive responses to: Do you support A) The Republican party who hold with the conviction that Americans should be able live safe in our home ? B) The mob bosses in the Democrat party who want to abolish the police and let rapists run free? ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rnc-asking-me-to-re-confirm-that-im-still-registered-as-a-republican/969722/18 "2022-08-16T23:30:47Z")
Yeah. What concerned me most was that the form had a registration on it to register to the Republican Party. Not sure if that would in any way in hell work, but it is bound to confuse people. It was VERY official looking even to this jaundiced eye. “But Dear, we registered with the Republicans, remember? We have to vote Republican.” It’s a two pronged attack by the RNC. This is not Alex Jones. It’s the freaking RNC. It may also be a way to try to help with Gerrymandering. Not sure. Fuckers. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2022, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rnc-asking-me-to-re-confirm-that-im-still-registered-as-a-republican/969722/19 "2022-08-17T01:07:35Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > This is not Alex Jones. It’s the freaking RNC. Wait. There’s a difference? ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2022, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rnc-asking-me-to-re-confirm-that-im-still-registered-as-a-republican/969722/20 "2022-08-17T12:55:18Z")
The Poll **will not allow you** to express your opinion. All questions will be worded/slanted to make De Santis look good, in a yes/no fashion. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rnc-asking-me-to-re-confirm-that-im-still-registered-as-a-republican/969722.md?page=2)