# RNC attendee:  'This is how we feed animals.'

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [August 29, 2012, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rnc-attendee-this-is-how-we-feed-animals/633071 "2012-08-29T20:51:20Z")\
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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2012, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rnc-attendee-this-is-how-we-feed-animals/633071/21 "2012-08-30T14:15:50Z")

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I’m just impressed they were able to FIND a black person at the RNC. Must have been like Christmas.

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**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2012, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rnc-attendee-this-is-how-we-feed-animals/633071/22 "2012-08-30T16:58:37Z")

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Did anyone hear the interviewee on NPR this morning at the brunch for military veterans that Ann Romney spoke too? “It’s about time we got a First Lady **who looks like a First Lady.** ”

I was so flabbergasted I thought I surely must have heard it wrong… but no, other websites (mostly Democratic bloggers and tweeters) heard it too. There’s not enough… I mean… you can’t… :smack:

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**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2012, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rnc-attendee-this-is-how-we-feed-animals/633071/23 "2012-08-30T17:04:40Z")

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Too late to edit: I think [this](http://www.npr.org/2012/08/30/160293878/ann-romney-janna-ryan-campaign-in-tampa) is the story, although I can’t listen to it at work and the transcript is not posted yet.

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**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2012, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rnc-attendee-this-is-how-we-feed-animals/633071/24 "2012-08-30T17:25:20Z")

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I hadn’t watched or listened to a word of the Convention (though it’s been on in the background) until last night when Condoleeza Rice was on. I came out of my office to watch, and after a few minutes I thought to myself “Wouldn’t it be great if the attendees and the Republicans watching at home see this and realize ‘This is what a leader looks like’ and ‘This is what a statesman sounds like.’”

That thought lasted a few seconds before I realized that 90% of them are saying “Marge, who is this black woman? I thought their night was last night and tonight and tomorrow are for real Americans” “And what is she talking about immigrants for? We hate those fuc#&!rs!”

“I don’t know who she is, George, but the people said to make sure not to throw anything at her and to clap when the sign says ‘Applesauce’”

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**Author:** ![Curious\_Mike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f04885/32.png) [@Curious\_Mike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Curious_Mike)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2012, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rnc-attendee-this-is-how-we-feed-animals/633071/25 "2012-08-30T17:26:10Z")

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> I’m just impressed they were able to FIND a black person at the RNC. Must have been like Christmas.

You may not have been able to find a black person at the RNC because you didn’t even watch the broadcast. Let me inform you. You missed speeches by Mia Love and Arthur Davis, both black. Or perhaps you did watch the broadcast… on MSNBC. See this broadcast cut away from every speech given by a member of a minority group including the one by Ted Cruz who is Latino. They instead went to the talking heads which included the always fair minded Maddow, Matthews and Sharpton so that they could tell the viewers once again that Republicans are racist liars.

Maybe you heard news of the incident that was almost the exact opposite story to the OP. I’ll inform you again. During the Yahoo News coverage of the RNC you might have heard someone utter “They are happy to party while black people drown”. This man was David Chalian, the Yahoo News Washington Chief. Obviously implying that once again Republicans were going to fail constituents in the path of a hurricane, and that they don’t even care.

Chalian was quickly fired by Yahoo News jsut as the offending peanut throwers were kicked out of the convention. The difference that I see is that Mr. Chalian wasn’t just some yokel who wrangled a ticket to the convention, he is a veteran political commentator. He once worked for ABC before becoming the politcal director for PBS NewsHour. He should have known better than anyone that you can’t make comments like that, at least not where they may be overheard. Yet I guess he felt comfortable within the circle of likeminded “journalists”.

CM

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**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2012, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rnc-attendee-this-is-how-we-feed-animals/633071/26 "2012-08-30T17:36:10Z")

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> [@Skammer](#):
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> Too late to edit: I think [this](http://www.npr.org/2012/08/30/160293878/ann-romney-janna-ryan-campaign-in-tampa) is the story, although I can’t listen to it at work and the transcript is not posted yet.

This is the story. I listened and confirmed it:

[http://www.npr.org/2012/08/30/160293862/romney-courts-veterans-at-american-legion-convention](http://www.npr.org/2012/08/30/160293862/romney-courts-veterans-at-american-legion-convention)

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**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2012, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rnc-attendee-this-is-how-we-feed-animals/633071/27 "2012-08-30T17:38:29Z")

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> [@Curious\_Mike](#):
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> You may not have been able to find a black person at the RNC because you didn’t even watch the broadcast. Let me inform you. You missed speeches by Mia Love and Arthur Davis, both black.

You realize that they put black faces up on stage on purpose, to fool people like you, right?

Look on the floor and find a black face. Look in the RNC (the committee itself) - only two blacks out of about 150 members. Look at the platform committee - no blacks.

There are black Republicans, of course, but not many.

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**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2012, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rnc-attendee-this-is-how-we-feed-animals/633071/28 "2012-08-30T18:12:27Z")

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“And this is how you lose elections”

Fucking dumbass GOP. I bet Rush today either ignored the story or accused them of being plants from the Dems

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2012, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rnc-attendee-this-is-how-we-feed-animals/633071/29 "2012-08-30T19:22:27Z")

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> [@Curious\_Mike](#):
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> You may not have been able to find a black person at the RNC because you didn’t even watch the broadcast. Let me inform you. You missed speeches by Mia Love and Arthur Davis, both black.

I watched part of Mia Love’s speech on C-SPAN. She was black all right, and several times they panned across an audience that couldn’t have been whiter if it was a world convention for albino geishas and anemic mimes.

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**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2012, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rnc-attendee-this-is-how-we-feed-animals/633071/30 "2012-08-30T21:37:18Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> I watched part of Mia Love’s speech on C-SPAN. She was black all right, and several times they panned across an audience that couldn’t have been whiter if it was a world convention for albino geishas and anemic mimes.

Vinyl, you never cease to outdo yourself. _clap_

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2012, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rnc-attendee-this-is-how-we-feed-animals/633071/31 "2012-08-30T22:06:44Z")

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> [@Lamar\_Mundane](#):
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> Seriously? You’re _cool_ with it? Two guys make a disgusting racist attack at the Republican National Convention and it’s cool if they just get tossed out? That wouldn’t pass muster in second grade these days. It’s been 24 hours-who are these guys? Where’s their apology? Where’s the apology from the RNC to CNN for giving these doofuses credentials? The RNC isn’t general admission - someone at the state party level decided that these guys were worthy of attending.
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> The RNC deserves 24/7 shaming until they publicly identify these guys, demand an apology, and send them back to whatever hellhole they came from.

You’re assuming it was racist. My guess is that he would have said the exact same thing if the people he was referring to were all white. Seriously, doesn’t that seem to be the more reasonable position?

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2012, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rnc-attendee-this-is-how-we-feed-animals/633071/32 "2012-08-30T22:11:55Z")

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> [@lance\_strongarm](#):
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> This is the story. I listened and confirmed it:
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> [Romney Courts Vets At American Legion Convention : NPR](http://www.npr.org/2012/08/30/160293862/romney-courts-veterans-at-american-legion-convention)

_This_ on the other hand, does appear to be racist. While the person might be of the mind that the image they have in their minds is of someone who is demure, more like a Laura Bush, I think that the most reasonable explanation at this time is that it was, indeed, a racist statement.

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**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2012, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rnc-attendee-this-is-how-we-feed-animals/633071/33 "2012-08-30T22:17:38Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> You’re assuming it was racist. My guess is that he would have said the exact same thing if the people he was referring to were all white. Seriously, doesn’t that seem to be the more reasonable position?

No, seriously, it doesn’t. I have to admire the mental gymnastics you are doing, however, to think that throwing peanuts and calling a black person an animal has absolutely nothing to do with race. Would that someday I could convince myself to exercise more, eat better, lay off the smoking and alcohol, I’d have a will of iron

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2012, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rnc-attendee-this-is-how-we-feed-animals/633071/34 "2012-08-30T22:26:05Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> Put me down for $5 on “That wasn’t racist; he was calling the lamestream media, CNN, animals.”

> [@magellan01](#):
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> You’re assuming it was racist. My guess is that he would have said the exact same thing if the people he was referring to were all white. Seriously, doesn’t that seem to be the more reasonable position?

Somebody owes me five bucks.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2012, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rnc-attendee-this-is-how-we-feed-animals/633071/35 "2012-08-30T23:11:29Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> You’re assuming it was racist. My guess is that he would have said the exact same thing if the people he was referring to were all white. Seriously, doesn’t that seem to be the more reasonable position?

What other people might he have been referring to? CNN camera operators? Women?

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2012, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rnc-attendee-this-is-how-we-feed-animals/633071/36 "2012-08-30T23:14:55Z")

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Maybe he thought he was doing a nature documentary.

You know - for kids!

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2012, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rnc-attendee-this-is-how-we-feed-animals/633071/37 "2012-08-31T00:12:25Z")

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> [@lance\_strongarm](#):
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> You realize that they put black faces up on stage on purpose, to fool people like you, right?

I recall some years ago a black Republican who went to a Republican Convention commenting on how it was creepy how as soon as he showed up cameras all over started tracking him. “We’re not the White Men’s Party; no, really! Look there, a black guy!!”

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**Author:** ![Cyros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a698b9/32.png) [@Cyros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyros)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2012, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rnc-attendee-this-is-how-we-feed-animals/633071/38 "2012-08-31T00:36:59Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> You’re assuming it was racist. My guess is that he would have said the exact same thing if the people he was referring to were all white. Seriously, doesn’t that seem to be the more reasonable position?

> [@YogSosoth](#):
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> No, seriously, it doesn’t. I have to admire the mental gymnastics you are doing, however, to think that throwing peanuts and calling a black person an animal has absolutely nothing to do with race. Would that someday I could convince myself to exercise more, eat better, lay off the smoking and alcohol, I’d have a will of iron

> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> Somebody owes me five bucks.

> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> What other people might he have been referring to? CNN camera operators? Women?

Lay off poor **magellan01**. He is 1 for 2 so far in this thread and I think that is a real improvement (although, oddly enough, it is the more easily defensible example in which he actually sees the racism).

> [@magellan01](#):
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> _This_ on the other hand, does appear to be racist. While the person might be of the mind that the image they have in their minds is of someone who is demure, more like a Laura Bush, I think that the most reasonable explanation at this time is that it was, indeed, a racist statement.

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**Post date:** [August 31, 2012, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rnc-attendee-this-is-how-we-feed-animals/633071/39 "2012-08-31T00:41:48Z")

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This is not unrepresentative of the voter Romney is actively courting. Yesterday at a speech Romney gave to a the annual meeting of the American Legion, one of his supporters had [this to say about Obama](http://www.npr.org/2012/08/30/160293862/romney-courts-veterans-at-american-legion-convention):

> [@](#):
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> I just - I don’t like him. Can’t stand to look at him. I don’t like his wife. She’s far from the first lady. It’s about time we get a first lady in there that acts like a first lady and looks like a first lady.

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2012, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rnc-attendee-this-is-how-we-feed-animals/633071/40 "2012-08-31T00:50:34Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> What other people might he have been referring to? CNN camera operators? Women?

You’re missing my point. Someone does something boorish. I throw peanuts I’m holding at them and say something to the effect, “I might as well feed the animals”. Race needn’t and I’d bet, had nothing to do with it.

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