# RNC Official Pat Rogers: N.M. Governor ‘Dishonored’ Gen. Custer By Meeting With American Indians. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 24, 2012, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rnc-official-pat-rogers-n-m-governor-dishonored-gen-custer-by-meeting-with-american-indians/632539 "2012-08-24T21:51:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2012, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rnc-official-pat-rogers-n-m-governor-dishonored-gen-custer-by-meeting-with-american-indians/632539/1 "2012-08-24T21:51:04Z")
I know, I know, more Republican bashing; but they make it so damned easy! Please, go ahead and try to show equivalence on the Democratic side. [http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/08/susana\_martinez\_custer.php](http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/08/susana_martinez_custer.php) > [@](#): > > A progressive group called on Republican National Committee leader Pat Rogers to step down on Friday after emails showed him telling New Mexico Gov. Susana Martinez’s staff that meeting with a group of American Indians “dishonored” Gen. George Armstrong Custer, the 19th century commander who killed scores of American Indians. > > “The state is going to hell,” Rogers, who is a member of the GOP executive committee and is currently in Tampa for the RNC convention, wrote in a June 8 email released by Progress Now New Mexico. Former Republican gubernatorial candidate Col. Allen Weh “would not have dishonored Col Custer in this manner,” he wrote. And here’s the email: [http://www.progressnownm.org/RogersEmail.jpg](http://www.progressnownm.org/RogersEmail.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2012, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rnc-official-pat-rogers-n-m-governor-dishonored-gen-custer-by-meeting-with-american-indians/632539/2 "2012-08-24T22:19:11Z")
But she only agreed to meet them so her staff could shoot them from ambush! ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2012, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rnc-official-pat-rogers-n-m-governor-dishonored-gen-custer-by-meeting-with-american-indians/632539/3 "2012-08-24T22:21:07Z")
That’s gotta be satire, right? Something from the Onion that made it into the “real” news? ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2012, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rnc-official-pat-rogers-n-m-governor-dishonored-gen-custer-by-meeting-with-american-indians/632539/4 "2012-08-24T22:22:22Z")
Also, who or what is the “JAJ” referred to in the first line? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2012, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rnc-official-pat-rogers-n-m-governor-dishonored-gen-custer-by-meeting-with-american-indians/632539/5 "2012-08-24T22:23:37Z")
I imagine there must have been a crisis at the RNC when the delegates realized there was one remaining voting bloc the party hadn’t managed to alienate yet. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2012, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rnc-official-pat-rogers-n-m-governor-dishonored-gen-custer-by-meeting-with-american-indians/632539/6 "2012-08-24T22:28:10Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > Also, who or what is the “JAJ” referred to in the first line? Janice Arnold-Jones, she’s running for a Congressional seat in New Mexico. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2012, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rnc-official-pat-rogers-n-m-governor-dishonored-gen-custer-by-meeting-with-american-indians/632539/7 "2012-08-24T22:28:33Z")
So… let’s see if I have this right: According to a Republican National Committee member Pat Rogers, a Governor of the State of New Mexico should not attend an annual New Mexico state tribal leader summit - a meeting which she is required by law to attend. The reason she should not attend, according to the Republican, is that by attending the summit (which she is legally required to attend), she would be showing disrespect to a General who lived over 130 years ago, a General who was killed in 1876 by Lakota and Northern Cheyenne Indians in what is now the state of Montana. This was a General whose field strategy field strategy was to use noncombatants at the encampments at the Battle of the Little Big Horn. [He intended to capture women, children, the elderly or disabled to serve as hostages and human shields](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Little_Bighorn#The_role_of_Indian_noncombatants_in_Custer.27s_strategy) That General Custer. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2012, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rnc-official-pat-rogers-n-m-governor-dishonored-gen-custer-by-meeting-with-american-indians/632539/8 "2012-08-24T22:36:29Z")
Looks like Rogers definitely went off the reservation on this one! ---
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2012, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rnc-official-pat-rogers-n-m-governor-dishonored-gen-custer-by-meeting-with-american-indians/632539/9 "2012-08-24T22:38:42Z")
The Republicans can’t find a Democratic equivalent. They can’t find an equivalent to the Akins idiocy and they can’t find an equivalent to the Lubbock, TX retardation. I just hope more throwbacks keep exposing their let’s-go-back-to-the-good-ole-days philosophy. Maybe it will enervate the cynical and the apathetic to actually vote this November. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2012, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rnc-official-pat-rogers-n-m-governor-dishonored-gen-custer-by-meeting-with-american-indians/632539/10 "2012-08-24T22:44:23Z")
So, does this fucknut want to Sioux the Governor, or does he just Hopi she goes away? ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2012, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rnc-official-pat-rogers-n-m-governor-dishonored-gen-custer-by-meeting-with-american-indians/632539/11 "2012-08-24T22:52:28Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Looks like Rogers definitely went off the reservation on this one! How? ---
**Author:** ![SpoilerVirgin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4491bb/32.png) [@SpoilerVirgin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpoilerVirgin)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2012, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rnc-official-pat-rogers-n-m-governor-dishonored-gen-custer-by-meeting-with-american-indians/632539/12 "2012-08-24T22:55:37Z")
> [@monstro](#): > > …enervate… Psst…that [word](http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/enervate) doesn’t mean what you think it means. I do agree with the substance of your post. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2012, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rnc-official-pat-rogers-n-m-governor-dishonored-gen-custer-by-meeting-with-american-indians/632539/13 "2012-08-24T22:59:35Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > How? You win the double entendre prize for the week! ---
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2012, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rnc-official-pat-rogers-n-m-governor-dishonored-gen-custer-by-meeting-with-american-indians/632539/14 "2012-08-24T23:01:04Z")
> [@SpoilerVirgin](#): > > Psst…that [word](http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/enervate) doesn’t mean what you think it means. :blushes and hides: ---
**Author:** ![Gagundathar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a183cd/32.png) [@Gagundathar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gagundathar)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2012, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rnc-official-pat-rogers-n-m-governor-dishonored-gen-custer-by-meeting-with-american-indians/632539/15 "2012-08-24T23:12:43Z")
> [@monstro](#): > > :blushes and hides: For what it is worth, I have misused that word in the same manner as you did. On topic, this seems rather hard to justify from any sane and rational perspective. Perhaps some denizen from the parallel dimension wherein lie the enormous minds behind the current GOP can appear here and explain how this makes any sense whatsoever. Defending Custer? Really? ---
**Author:** ![boytyperanma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4491bb/32.png) [@boytyperanma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boytyperanma)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2012, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rnc-official-pat-rogers-n-m-governor-dishonored-gen-custer-by-meeting-with-american-indians/632539/16 "2012-08-24T23:48:49Z")
You dishonor Generals by calling Custer one! ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2012, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rnc-official-pat-rogers-n-m-governor-dishonored-gen-custer-by-meeting-with-american-indians/632539/17 "2012-08-24T23:55:18Z")
Custard is dishonored by Custer. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2012, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rnc-official-pat-rogers-n-m-governor-dishonored-gen-custer-by-meeting-with-american-indians/632539/18 "2012-08-24T23:58:30Z")
Bumper sticker from the 60’s: Custer Had It Coming. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2012, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rnc-official-pat-rogers-n-m-governor-dishonored-gen-custer-by-meeting-with-american-indians/632539/19 "2012-08-25T00:02:46Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > That’s gotta be satire, right? Something from the Onion that made it into the “real” news? I know what you mean. Lately I feel like at some point I somehow woke up in the universe depicted in the Onion. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2012, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rnc-official-pat-rogers-n-m-governor-dishonored-gen-custer-by-meeting-with-american-indians/632539/20 "2012-08-25T00:08:34Z")
OK, I’m going to have to pray this was a really egregious case of “words in an e-mail can’t convey that you’re winking and laughing as you say it”. Because otherwise WTF? The Governor’s a REPUBLICAN – _and_ a woman and a Latina. So you got those segments besides the Native Americans getting hit. Way to \*&^%$# go, Rogers! Keep adding votes! [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rnc-official-pat-rogers-n-m-governor-dishonored-gen-custer-by-meeting-with-american-indians/632539.md?page=2)