# RO: Converting a Hindu to Christianity

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-converting-a-hindu-to-christianity/506406>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 14, 2009, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-converting-a-hindu-to-christianity/506406 "2009-08-14T14:50:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2009, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-converting-a-hindu-to-christianity/506406/21 "2009-08-15T05:03:40Z")

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I’m a Hindu? Where’s my dot? Isn’t that like a Hindu door prize?

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**Author:** ![Indistinguishable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/90ced4/32.png) [@Indistinguishable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indistinguishable)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2009, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-converting-a-hindu-to-christianity/506406/22 "2009-08-15T05:06:33Z")

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Mostly, they’re worn by women…

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**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2009, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-converting-a-hindu-to-christianity/506406/23 "2009-08-15T05:07:43Z")

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> [@MoodIndigo1](#):
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> Well, in Molly’s details re that video;
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> Pretty cool satire. The comment section is filled with the most lame earnest posts.
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> Edited to add: It deserves better than 1 and a half stars.

That’s what I was going to point out, the way they worded that part you can almost see the “;)” next to it.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2009, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-converting-a-hindu-to-christianity/506406/24 "2009-08-15T06:00:40Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> There’s no point. One of the basic tenets of Hinduism is that all faiths are reflections of the same basic truths (be nice to other people, look after your parents, don’t steal, lie, cheat, etc.) So you’re already a Hindu.

One of the other ones is that it’s the religion of the Indians. Hinduism is so tied up with Indian identity, the idea of a non-Indian converting to Hinduism wouldn’t make sense to most Hindus.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2009, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-converting-a-hindu-to-christianity/506406/25 "2009-08-15T06:09:36Z")

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> [@Indistinguishable](#):
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> Mostly, they’re worn by women…

Maybe I should get one that kind of protrudes out like a horn – you know, a forehead penis.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Awesome](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a698b9/32.png) [@Captain\_Awesome](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Awesome)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2009, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-converting-a-hindu-to-christianity/506406/26 "2009-08-15T07:00:44Z")

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That was some razor sharp satire, and clearly so close to the edge that most of the YouTube proletariat miss the point. Total win. Loved the indoor sunglasses too.

ETA: I want a God-nipple on my forehead too.

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**Author:** ![Annie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/858c86/32.png) [@Annie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2009, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-converting-a-hindu-to-christianity/506406/27 "2009-08-15T15:19:08Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> They’re trolling. If you look at YouLoveMolly’s YouTube profile you’ll notice that all her stuff is “comedy”, and it says she and her friend need to practice their jokes before college. (:dubious:)
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> There’s no point. One of the basic tenets of Hinduism is that all faiths are reflections of the same basic truths (be nice to other people, look after your parents, don’t steal, lie, cheat, etc.) So you’re already a Hindu.

Oh, good, I thought I was going to have to line up a sponsor, either for this lifetime or the next. But Lordy (Ganeshy?) there’s a lot of godings and manifestations to keep straight. Fortunately I get all my idolatry supplies at the [Unemployed](http://www.philosophersguild.com/index.lasso?page_mode=Product_Detail&cat=religious&skip=14&item=0626&sortby=rank%20DESC) [Philosopher’s](http://www.philosophersguild.com/index.lasso?page_mode=Product_Detail&cat=religious&skip=11&item=0625&sortby=rank%20DESC) [Guild.](http://www.philosophersguild.com/index.lasso?page_mode=Product_Detail&cat=religious&skip=11&item=0625&sortby=rank%20DESC)

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2009, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-converting-a-hindu-to-christianity/506406/28 "2009-08-15T15:24:44Z")

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> [@Captain\_Amazing](#):
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> One of the other ones is that it’s the religion of the Indians. Hinduism is so tied up with Indian identity, the idea of a non-Indian converting to Hinduism wouldn’t make sense to most Hindus.

Not so. Hindus are familiar with the concept of evangelism (to Indians and non-Indians alike) but there are very few sects which actually practice it- perhaps because, as I noted above, everyone who believes in god(s) is already a Hindu, in a sense.

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**Author:** ![Bam\_Boo\_Gut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8c91f0/32.png) [@Bam\_Boo\_Gut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bam_Boo_Gut)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2009, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-converting-a-hindu-to-christianity/506406/29 "2009-08-16T16:41:42Z")

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> [@Annie](#):
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> Oh, good, I thought I was going to have to line up a sponsor, either for this lifetime or the next. But Lordy (Ganeshy?) there’s a lot of godings and manifestations to keep straight. Fortunately I get all my idolatry supplies at the [Unemployed](http://www.philosophersguild.com/index.lasso?page_mode=Product_Detail&cat=religious&skip=14&item=0626&sortby=rank%20DESC) [Philosopher’s](http://www.philosophersguild.com/index.lasso?page_mode=Product_Detail&cat=religious&skip=11&item=0625&sortby=rank%20DESC) [Guild.](http://www.philosophersguild.com/index.lasso?page_mode=Product_Detail&cat=religious&skip=11&item=0625&sortby=rank%20DESC)

The blurb on this link is brilliant:

“Shiva the Destroyer… as a doll! 11” tall although he can technically take any form." 😃

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**Author:** ![wierdaaron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/eada6e/32.png) [@wierdaaron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wierdaaron)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2009, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-converting-a-hindu-to-christianity/506406/30 "2009-08-16T19:10:27Z")

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As someone who grew up christian (no longer, though), surrounded by other young christians, I have no problem believing that’s real.

We’re told from a very young age that we should try to convert anybody we can. If my sheltered existence had allowed me to be near someone of another faith at that age, after I stopped hyperventilating I’d probably start laying on the jesus schtick.

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-converting-a-hindu-to-christianity/506406/31 "2009-08-17T16:52:57Z")

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> [@chromaticity](#):
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> Although, I haven’t seen a non-American use “Asian” in that way yet, in my personal experience.

Yeah, it’s an American usage. In U.S. English, “Asian” generally refers to people from China, Japan, Korea, Laos, etc., to the exclusion of people from India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, etc. (Our “Asian” is what people in other English-speaking countries still refer to, IIRC, as “Oriental,” but that’s considered a non-PC term here now.)

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-converting-a-hindu-to-christianity/506406/32 "2009-08-17T17:18:02Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> That’s as fake as a three dollar bill. The actors were as wooden as a tree, the dialogue was preposterous.
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> The acting gets a little bit better later on, and they edit it well. But the first two minutes it’s just ludicrously obvious they’re faking it.

Yeah, even if it’s not real, it’s still not great satire, in my opinion. It was way too boring to watch either way.

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**Author:** ![wierdaaron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/eada6e/32.png) [@wierdaaron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wierdaaron)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-converting-a-hindu-to-christianity/506406/33 "2009-08-17T17:29:36Z")

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I posit that people/girls that age wouldn’t even know what satire is, much less be aware of the necessary stereotypes _being_ satire’d.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Awesome](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a698b9/32.png) [@Captain\_Awesome](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Awesome)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2009, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-converting-a-hindu-to-christianity/506406/34 "2009-08-18T02:10:56Z")

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> [@wierdaaron](#):
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> I posit that people/girls that age wouldn’t even know what satire is, much less be aware of the necessary stereotypes _being_ satire’d.

Well clearly from the video, they do. Conversely, someone of your age/gender and with an awareness of the necessary stereotypes wouldn’t recognise it if it whanged you round the head with a piece of 2x4.

Yes it’s not _great_ satire if you hold it up to Chris Morris, but compared to most YouTube content, it was. The fact that people can’t even recognise it as such, despite some not altogether subtle clues, just proves that fact.

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**Author:** ![EVERYNAMEISTAKEN](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ac8455/32.png) [@EVERYNAMEISTAKEN](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EVERYNAMEISTAKEN)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2010, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-converting-a-hindu-to-christianity/506406/35 "2010-09-12T06:31:55Z")

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Well, I for one think they are geniuses. I also thought the video was hilarious.

“One regular one, and one Indian one.”

“…But we are part of Asia.”  
“Okay, whatever.”

They are true comedians. I also love their “Showing off some of the best jokes ever” video. That was great.

“I got a couple of [comments from] Christians who were like, ‘Oh, you make us Christians look bad,’ so I thought that was good 'cause that means like if I was a good Christian, like that made other Christians look bad.”  
“Yeah, like they can’t kind of compare.”

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**Author:** ![DanBlather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@DanBlather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DanBlather)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2010, 7:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-converting-a-hindu-to-christianity/506406/36 "2010-09-12T07:16:52Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> > [@Indistinguishable](#):
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> > But, to the extent that modern Americans (and others) generally don’t think of Indians as Caucasian, there’s not much point arguing that they somehow nonetheless actually are Caucasian in an underlying sense, as though these were very concrete groupings beyond the level of largely subjective impressions only marginally tracking genealogical relations. Indeed, there’s not much point trying to use “Caucasian” as anything separate from “white/European” in modern parlance.
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> I don’t disagree–I was simply objecting to “Indians are Asians (in the 20th-century-racial-sense),” because they’re not (no epicanthic fold, e.g.).

But now it;s the 21st century and we don’t try and classify people using 19th century standards

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**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2010, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-converting-a-hindu-to-christianity/506406/37 "2010-09-12T22:03:20Z")

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> [@wierdaaron](#):
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> As someone who grew up christian (no longer, though), surrounded by other young christians, I have no problem believing that’s real.

I have to agree. If it was satire, I really didn’t find it funny.

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2010, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-converting-a-hindu-to-christianity/506406/38 "2010-09-13T14:06:07Z")

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> [@DanBlather](#):
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> But now it;s the 21st century and we don’t try and classify people using 19th century standards

As soon as you classify people racially at all, that’s exactly what you’re doing, to a greater or lesser extent. Race is a social construct, but according to those socially established sets of criteria, Indians are Caucasian.

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**Author:** ![sundog66](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@sundog66](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sundog66)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2010, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-converting-a-hindu-to-christianity/506406/39 "2010-09-14T13:32:28Z")

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wtf is RO?

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2010, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-converting-a-hindu-to-christianity/506406/40 "2010-09-14T13:40:49Z")

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> [@sundog66](#):
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> wtf is RO?

Recreational outrage: getting upset over something that has little to no relevance at all to you personally.

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