# RO: Glenn Beck compares Utøya murder victims to Hitler Youth

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 25, 2011, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-glenn-beck-compares-utoya-murder-victims-to-hitler-youth/590311 "2011-07-25T21:12:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2011, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-glenn-beck-compares-utoya-murder-victims-to-hitler-youth/590311/1 "2011-07-25T21:12:42Z")

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> **[Norway shooting: Glenn Beck compares dead teenagers to Hitler youth](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/norway/8660986/Norway-shooting-Glenn-Beck-compares-dead-teenagers-to-Hitler-youth.html)**
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> Glenn Beck, the leading Right-wing American broadcaster, has prompted outrage after comparing the teenage victims of the Utoya Island massacre to the Hitler Youth.

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> Beck, a multimillionaire darling of the Tea Party movement, said on his nationally-syndicated radio show: “There was a shooting at a political camp, which sounds a little like, you know, the Hitler youth. I mean, who does a camp for kids that’s all about politics? Disturbing.”

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_OH MY GOD SHUT YOUR GODDAMN MOUTH YOU HORRIBLE SWINE._ Those young people were politically aware, engaged, and passionate about their beliefs, they were learning about participation and debate, they were taking part in electoral democracy, and they were just _murdered_ for it, how dare you shit all over them!

This whole thing has left me particularly shaken because I spent a hefty chunk of my own youth going to events like this. Those young people were murdered for doing what I did myself, what a lot of my friends and colleagues – some of whom are now among Canada’s youngest MPs in history – have done. We were trying, through the medium of electoral politics, to learn to make the world we would inherit a bit of a better place.

There is not actually a Guinness record for most appalling comment on foreign affairs, and just because you’re not familiar with the concept of genuine democracy and youth participation doesn’t make it an alien concept to the rest of the world, so shut your hate hole and learn something! _Asshole._

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2011, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-glenn-beck-compares-utoya-murder-victims-to-hitler-youth/590311/2 "2011-07-25T21:19:40Z")

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Not surprised, Beck has invited people like the author of “Liberal Fascism” (an abortion that dared to call itself history) to appear in his show in an attempt to make liberalism or socialism to be equal to fascism. Not only Europeans complained about that stupid attempt at rewriting history, but even in the USA historians came hard on people like Jonah Goldberg and Beck.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2011, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-glenn-beck-compares-utoya-murder-victims-to-hitler-youth/590311/3 "2011-07-25T21:20:32Z")

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> Beck, a multimillionaire darling of the Tea Party movement, said on his nationally-syndicated radio show: “There was a shooting at a political camp, which sounds a little like, you know, the Hitler youth. I mean, who does a camp for kids that’s all about politics? Disturbing.”

Who does a camp for kids that’s all about politics?

Well, a [Tea Party group in Florida does](http://www.tampabay.com/news/education/k12/tea-party-group-offers-summer-camp/1175119), for one:

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> Organized by conservative writer Jeff Lukens and staffed by volunteers from the 912 Project, Tampa Liberty School will meet every morning July 11-15 in borrowed space at the Paideia Christian school in Temple Terrace. […]
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> One example at Liberty: Children will win hard, wrapped candies to use as currency for a store, symbolizing the gold standard. On the second day, the “banker” will issue paper money instead. Over time, students will realize their paper money buys less and less, while the candies retain their value. […]
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> Still another example: Children will blow bubbles from a single container of soapy solution, and then pop each other’s bubbles with squirt guns in an arrangement that mimics socialism. They are to count how many bubbles they pop. Then they will work with individual bottles of solution and pop their own bubbles.
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> “What they will find out is that you can do a lot more with individual freedom,” Lukens said.

This is intended for 8-12-year-olds, btw, not the mid-to-late-teen “young adults” of the Norwegian camp.

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2011, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-glenn-beck-compares-utoya-murder-victims-to-hitler-youth/590311/4 "2011-07-25T21:22:22Z")

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I was afraid something like that might happen. What is wrong with some people?

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**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2011, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-glenn-beck-compares-utoya-murder-victims-to-hitler-youth/590311/5 "2011-07-25T21:23:26Z")

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WHAT’S DISTURBING IS THAT DOZENS OF PEOPLE WERE GUNNED DOWN IN COLD BLOOD YOU FUCKING DOUCHETARD ASSHOLE.

Jesus CHRIST.

I was tempted to link to this on Facebook but I don’t want to give even a cent more in advertising to the sites and blogs publishing this story. DIE IN A FIRE YOU SICK FUCK.

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**Author:** ![user\_hostile](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/user_hostile/32/474_2.png) [@user\_hostile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/user_hostile)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2011, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-glenn-beck-compares-utoya-murder-victims-to-hitler-youth/590311/6 "2011-07-25T21:50:53Z")

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Anybody wonder how many of his fans thought he went too far with this statement?

I remain deeply pessimistic.

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2011, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-glenn-beck-compares-utoya-murder-victims-to-hitler-youth/590311/7 "2011-07-25T21:56:26Z")

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> [He then went on to say](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/25/glenn-beck-norway-hitler-youth-bin-laden_n_908753.html) that he had warned that there would be horrible consequences due to the rise of what he called the “evil” strain of Islam in Europe. Islam, he said, is “squeezing the neck” of the continent, and multiculturalism is “killing” it.

It’s all the brown people’s fault!

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2011, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-glenn-beck-compares-utoya-murder-victims-to-hitler-youth/590311/8 "2011-07-25T22:14:33Z")

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> Re Beck:  
> He then went on to say that he had warned that there would be horrible consequences due to the rise of what he called the “evil” strain of Islam in Europe. Islam, he said, is “squeezing the neck” of the continent, and multiculturalism is “killing” it.

That’s the more outrageous part of that story to me. He’s basically siding with the fuck head who did the shooting. What’s different? Hell, transcribe half that rant into Breivik’s manifesto and it would barely skip cadence.

‘See, I told you if Muslims were allowed that someone would try to kill them.’

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2011, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-glenn-beck-compares-utoya-murder-victims-to-hitler-youth/590311/9 "2011-07-25T22:49:57Z")

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> [@Kimstu](#):
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> Who does a camp for kids that’s all about politics?
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> Well, a [Tea Party group in Florida does](http://www.tampabay.com/news/education/k12/tea-party-group-offers-summer-camp/1175119), for one:\<snip\>

That was my first thought, too - isn’t Glenn Beck the sort of guy who would be quite supportive of a youth camp for HIS views?

I support freedom of speech, but I also support Glenn Beck shutting the fuck up.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2011, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-glenn-beck-compares-utoya-murder-victims-to-hitler-youth/590311/10 "2011-07-25T23:06:55Z")

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:eek: Already?!

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2011, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-glenn-beck-compares-utoya-murder-victims-to-hitler-youth/590311/11 "2011-07-25T23:45:33Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> even in the USA historians came hard on people like Jonah Goldberg and Beck.

Ewwww.

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**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2011, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-glenn-beck-compares-utoya-murder-victims-to-hitler-youth/590311/12 "2011-07-25T23:47:27Z")

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> [@user\_hostile](#):
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> Anybody wonder how many of his fans thought he went too far with this statement?
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> I remain deeply pessimistic.

I dunno. Right wing political commentators get away with saying some egregious crap sometimes, but “those 60 teenagers that were gunned down at summer camp were pretty much like Nazi’s” is so far over the line I suspect hearing it would make even Sean Hannity throw-up in his mouth a little.

Had FOX not already kicked him out, I suspect they’d be doing so now (and indeed, the inevitablility of Beck saying stuff like this is probably why the bounced him in the first place).

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**Author:** ![DxZero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@DxZero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DxZero)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-glenn-beck-compares-utoya-murder-victims-to-hitler-youth/590311/13 "2011-07-26T00:01:25Z")

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Statements like this will only marginalize him further. The people that still listen to him and agree with his viewpoints are too far up their own asses already and probably aren’t capable of redemption. But I’m a glass-full kind of guy.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-glenn-beck-compares-utoya-murder-victims-to-hitler-youth/590311/14 "2011-07-26T00:06:36Z")

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The thing is, he doesn’t even believe it. He’s a political shock jock. No one who thinks like this can legitimately say they have liberal friends, as Beck did in that USA Today piece.

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**Author:** ![DxZero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@DxZero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DxZero)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-glenn-beck-compares-utoya-murder-victims-to-hitler-youth/590311/15 "2011-07-26T00:14:57Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> The thing is, he doesn’t even believe it. He’s a political shock jock. No one who thinks like this can legitimately say they have liberal friends, as Beck did in that USA Today piece.

Which makes him all the more repellant.

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-glenn-beck-compares-utoya-murder-victims-to-hitler-youth/590311/16 "2011-07-26T00:18:17Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> The thing is, he doesn’t even believe it. He’s a political shock jock. No one who thinks like this can legitimately say they have liberal friends, as Beck did in that USA Today piece.

He probably counts Bill O’Reilly as a liberal friend.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-glenn-beck-compares-utoya-murder-victims-to-hitler-youth/590311/17 "2011-07-26T00:20:59Z")

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> [@Kimstu](#):
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> Who does a camp for kids that’s all about politics?
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> Well, a [Tea Party group in Florida does](http://www.tampabay.com/news/education/k12/tea-party-group-offers-summer-camp/1175119), for one

You know what’s actually kind of funny about that camp in the context of Beck’s rant? It’s run by the 912 Project, which is Glen Beck’s baby.

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**Author:** ![colonial](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/34f0e0/32.png) [@colonial](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/colonial)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-glenn-beck-compares-utoya-murder-victims-to-hitler-youth/590311/18 "2011-07-26T00:31:43Z")

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I have not owned a TV for years, and have never watched a minute  
of Glen Beck anywhere.

Of course I have read many references to him in seven years of playing  
the politcal chatroom game, and I have noticed that Liberals universally  
despise him (I am a consevative, and have until 2008 usually voted Republican).  
Until a few minutes I wrote off Glen Beck criticism as probably highly  
exaggerated, and motivated by bias and partisanship

No longer.

To mention the innocent children who died on Utoya in the same breath  
as anything associated with Nazism is proof of moral death.

Glen Beck is a rotting moral corpse.

The same goes for anyone who sticks up for him.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-glenn-beck-compares-utoya-murder-victims-to-hitler-youth/590311/19 "2011-07-26T00:55:06Z")

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> [@user\_hostile](#):
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> Anybody wonder how many of his fans thought he went too far with this statement?
> 
> I remain deeply pessimistic.

One of the reasons Fox cut him loose is that the faithful have had enough of his schtick and were turned off.

He may now be in the spot where he has to say something nausiating to get \*anyone \*to listen.

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**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-glenn-beck-compares-utoya-murder-victims-to-hitler-youth/590311/20 "2011-07-26T01:11:07Z")

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> [@colonial](#):
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> I have not owned a TV for years, and have never watched a minute  
> of Glen Beck anywhere.
> 
> Of course I have read many references to him in seven years of playing  
> the politcal chatroom game, and I have noticed that Liberals universally  
> despise him (I am a consevative, and have until 2008 usually voted Republican).  
> Until a few minutes I wrote off Glen Beck criticism as probably highly  
> exaggerated, and motivated by bias and partisanship
> 
> No longer.
> 
> To mention the innocent children who died on Utoya in the same breath  
> as anything associated with Nazism is proof of moral death.
> 
> Glen Beck is a rotting moral corpse.
> 
> The same goes for anyone who sticks up for him.

Do you intend your posts to read as free verse?

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