# RO: Glenn Beck compares Utøya murder victims to Hitler Youth **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 25, 2011, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-glenn-beck-compares-utoya-murder-victims-to-hitler-youth/590311 "2011-07-25T21:12:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2011, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-glenn-beck-compares-utoya-murder-victims-to-hitler-youth/590311/201 "2011-07-27T18:19:16Z")
> [@MsWhatsit](#): > > WHAT’S DISTURBING IS THAT DOZENS OF PEOPLE WERE GUNNED DOWN IN COLD BLOOD YOU FUCKING DOUCHETARD ASSHOLE. > > Jesus CHRIST. > > I was tempted to link to this on Facebook but I don’t want to give even a cent more in advertising to the sites and blogs publishing this story. DIE IN A FIRE YOU SICK FUCK. If we all ever get to meet Beck, remind me to kick his ass. Deal? ---
**Author:** ![user\_hostile](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/user_hostile/32/474_2.png) [@user\_hostile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/user_hostile)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2011, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-glenn-beck-compares-utoya-murder-victims-to-hitler-youth/590311/202 "2011-07-27T20:11:04Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > If we all ever get to meet Beck, remind me to kick his ass. Deal? Try this instead: take Beck to an outdoor cafe in Oslo and buy him dinner. Excuse yourself and go into a bar next door. Find a bunch of linebacker sized Norwegians who are pretty wasted and buy them a round of beers. Mention to them that an old friend of yours is sitting in the cafe and said some nasty things about those Norsk teens. Asked them to explain to your friend why that was very rude. And just as they leave to go out the door, inform them that your friend called Norwegians a bunch of dirty Nazi loving thugs. As you stand inside, sipping a pint of _Frydenlund_, watching the melee at Cafe Fight Club, you realize that a nice looking Norwegian blonde has the eye for you. Life is good. ---
**Author:** ![Norse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a9adbd/32.png) [@Norse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Norse)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2011, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-glenn-beck-compares-utoya-murder-victims-to-hitler-youth/590311/203 "2011-07-28T19:10:43Z")
> [@Rune](#): > > I’d say calling for boycot of a nation (or anything else) is being anti. I’m not going to debate you on it though, as it doesn’t interest me. Ah, OK. So when I thought that boycotting South Africa for their apartheid politics, I was anti-South Africa, not against the politics of SA’s ruling party. And when I think that a boycott of Israel for their apartheid politics and their wall of shame may be a good idea, I’m naturally against all Israelis, and probably anti-Semitic as well? It can’t be caused just by the current politics of the current Israeli administration? Good to know :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Norse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a9adbd/32.png) [@Norse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Norse)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2011, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-glenn-beck-compares-utoya-murder-victims-to-hitler-youth/590311/204 "2011-07-28T19:13:14Z")
> [@brazil84](#): > > They’re not Hitler Youth, but like Hitler Youth, they were anti-Semitic. And you are an asshole. ---
**Author:** ![user\_hostile](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/user_hostile/32/474_2.png) [@user\_hostile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/user_hostile)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2011, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-glenn-beck-compares-utoya-murder-victims-to-hitler-youth/590311/205 "2011-07-28T19:41:08Z")
On second thought, buy dinner for _both_ Glenn Beck and **brazil84**. The blond will want to bear your children. ---
**Author:** ![pikey\_pete](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pikey\_pete](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pikey_pete)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2011, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-glenn-beck-compares-utoya-murder-victims-to-hitler-youth/590311/206 "2011-07-29T14:18:43Z")
> [@user\_hostile](#): > > I came back to this thread thinking it would be a continuation of Beck’s _ad hominem_ callousness/publicity whoring. > > Instead, I find the rantings of a caveman: > > **Chen019** find thread to shat upon. > > **Chen019** find linky between AUF and Hitler Youth. > > **Chen019** realize if Hitler Youth bad, AUF maybe bad too and says so. > > **Chen019** realize that _Nazis brutally occupied Norway_ > > **Chen019** then realize that he big idiot. > > **Chen019** cannot stop feeling like big idiot. > > **Chen019** think long, hard about what to do. > > **Chen019** realize: “Blame Muslims” > > **Chen019** gets on dinosaur and warn other cavemen of Muslims. > > **Chen019** is ignored by other cavemen. > > **Chen019** is tired of being called “xenophobic” > > **Chen019** is tired of being called “bigot” > > **Chen019** think long, hard about what to do. > > **Chen019** will find other thread. > . > . > . > **Chen019** find thread to shat upon. > > _ad nauseum_ just curious…where is the ‘we collect huge profit because of Chen019’ step ---
**Author:** ![pikey\_pete](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pikey\_pete](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pikey_pete)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2011, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-glenn-beck-compares-utoya-murder-victims-to-hitler-youth/590311/207 "2011-07-29T14:33:49Z")
> [@flodnak](#): > > Some of my son’s friends were on that island. > > I want to say before I start my rant that physically, all of his friends are fine. A few had left to come home early, and all those who were there got away unharmed. It doesn’t change the fact that far too many of our children were killed there, but I am grateful for the small mercy that my son did not have to lose anyone. He, like many of the victims, is only 17. > > Seventeen years old. > > Why was he friends with these kids? Because he is also active in a political party’s youth movement. A different party, one that often finds itself in opposition to the Labor Party (and yet that Breivik probably also despises). Think about this: kids in different youth parties were friends. Why? > > Because these are Good Kids. These are kids who share many goals. They want to make their country better. They want to make the world better. They want to share those things they think are good about Norway with the world, and they want to fix Norway’s problems, too. They believe in democracy, in human rights, in progress. They are our best and brightest, every one of them, no matter what party they think best fits their beliefs. And they go to meetings, and some of them go to summer camp, to learn about democracy and the political process and about organizing and getting out the vote. > > They are not being indoctrinated by the “mother parties”, as they call the adult parties. In fact they are known for criticizing them, and in some cases even changing the mother party’s opinion and platform. They may not have the experience, but by god do they have the passion. Youth does that. > > They are our best and brightest. And some monster stole more than sixty-eight of them from us. > > Glenn Beck, kindly go stick your head in a pig. And Chen019, you go next. > > Those of you who need to be reminded that most people are not like this, I encourage you to look at these photos of [the rose march in Oslo.](http://www.dagbladet.no/2011/07/25/nyheter/innenriks/utoya/oslo/17453865/) This happened in every city and town in Norway. It’s our country, and Breivik can’t have it. I am very glad to hear that your son’s friends are OK. When he moves to Dallas, I plan to egg Glenn Beck’s house…or maybe toilet paper it. An egg or roll of toilet paper will be dedicated to victims. I know it seems frivolous, but Glenn Beck isn’t worth much more effort than juvenile pranks. ---
**Author:** ![Tolik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/958977/32.png) [@Tolik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tolik)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2011, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-glenn-beck-compares-utoya-murder-victims-to-hitler-youth/590311/208 "2011-07-29T16:23:58Z")
Thanks, Brazil84. Unfortunately, it’s impossible to maintain a dispute with these who are cursing for the lack of arguments. But hands down, they can’t deny that they are mere anti-semites and Israel haters. ---
**Author:** ![user\_hostile](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/user_hostile/32/474_2.png) [@user\_hostile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/user_hostile)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2011, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-glenn-beck-compares-utoya-murder-victims-to-hitler-youth/590311/209 "2011-07-29T16:30:08Z")
> [@Tolik](#): > > Thanks, Brazil84. > Unfortunately, it’s impossible to maintain a dispute with these who are cursing for the lack of arguments. > But hands down, they can’t deny that they are mere anti-semites and Israel haters. Uh-oh, I my spidey sense is tingling. ---
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2011, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-glenn-beck-compares-utoya-murder-victims-to-hitler-youth/590311/210 "2011-07-29T17:44:27Z")
> [@Norse](#): > > And you are an asshole. Lol, a stunning rebuttal. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2011, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-glenn-beck-compares-utoya-murder-victims-to-hitler-youth/590311/211 "2011-07-29T17:51:40Z")
> [@brazil84](#): > > Lol, a stunning rebuttal. Well, you don’t really need to reach for the moon to rebut your childish, delusional nonsense. ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2011, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-glenn-beck-compares-utoya-murder-victims-to-hitler-youth/590311/212 "2011-07-29T18:06:01Z")
> [@brazil84](#): > > Lol, a stunning rebuttal. It’s not so much a rebuttal as a statement of self-evident first principles. ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2011, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-glenn-beck-compares-utoya-murder-victims-to-hitler-youth/590311/213 "2011-07-29T18:27:56Z")
> [@user\_hostile](#): > > Uh-oh, I my spidey sense is tingling. Why? It’s perfectly normal that the only person supporting **brazilnut** registered today just to make that one post. Where he agrees wholeheartedly with and even thanks our hero. ---
**Author:** ![user\_hostile](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/user_hostile/32/474_2.png) [@user\_hostile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/user_hostile)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2011, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-glenn-beck-compares-utoya-murder-victims-to-hitler-youth/590311/214 "2011-07-29T18:48:49Z")
> [@Dissonance](#): > > Why? It’s perfectly normal that the only person supporting **brazilnut** registered today just to make that one post. Where he agrees wholeheartedly with and even thanks our hero. I noted that, too, before I responded. But my grammatically challenged comment didn’t help either. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Norse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a9adbd/32.png) [@Norse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Norse)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2011, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-glenn-beck-compares-utoya-murder-victims-to-hitler-youth/590311/215 "2011-07-29T20:05:04Z")
> [@Tolik](#): > > they can’t deny that they are mere anti-semites and Israel haters. For the record, I beg to differ. I’m perfectly capable of denying that I’m an anti-semite and an Israel hater: I hereby deny that I’m an anti-semite and an Israel hater. See? You were wrong. ---
**Author:** ![user\_hostile](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/user_hostile/32/474_2.png) [@user\_hostile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/user_hostile)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2011, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-glenn-beck-compares-utoya-murder-victims-to-hitler-youth/590311/216 "2011-07-29T21:53:18Z")
I googled [Tolik](http://www.freerepublic.com) and if the poster are one and the same, he’s an “out-there” libertarian. To wit: at the top of the web page is a clickable link for the _JPFO_ (i. e., "Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership). Hmm, a tepid candidate for “Weird Earl’s”, but then I saw this little gem: “[No Guns for Negroes](http://jpfo.org/filegen-n-z/ngn-download-view.htm)” (which is, if you think about it, is more progressive than “No guns for Colored folk”) along with “No Guns for Jews”. More or less, an argument against gun control, but with a touch of paranoia. I couldn’t, however, find any videos on the website entitled, “No Guns for Muslims” or “No Guns for Arabs”. Could be construed as “Antisemitic” so-to-speak, but I’ll leave that to others to debate. ---
**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2011, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-glenn-beck-compares-utoya-murder-victims-to-hitler-youth/590311/217 "2011-07-29T22:27:03Z")
Whatever this poster may be arguing in this thread or otherwise, I don’t see a reason to drag that video into this discussion. There’s nothing particularly far-flung about it; a lot of gun-control measures historically did have connections to racism, and the video, which is narrated by and features black gun rights advocates, illustrates this. I don’t know what kind of point you’re trying to make by making fun of the video in this thread. ---
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2011, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-glenn-beck-compares-utoya-murder-victims-to-hitler-youth/590311/218 "2011-07-29T22:36:23Z")
FWIW, I am not behind “Tolik.” I read his post a couple times and didn’t really understand what he was trying to say. My guess was that he was probably attacking me with sarcasm, but who knows. ---
**Author:** ![user\_hostile](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/user_hostile/32/474_2.png) [@user\_hostile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/user_hostile)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2011, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-glenn-beck-compares-utoya-murder-victims-to-hitler-youth/590311/219 "2011-07-29T23:56:19Z")
> [@Argent\_Towers](#): > > Whatever this poster may be arguing in this thread or otherwise, I don’t see a reason to drag that video into this discussion. There’s nothing particularly far-flung about it; a lot of gun-control measures historically did have connections to racism, and the video, which is narrated by and features black gun rights advocates, illustrates this. I don’t know what kind of point you’re trying to make by making fun of the video in this thread. I wrote a long-winded response to your argument, but I had to admit your’re right. My reasoning was way too convoluted for this thread. I apologize. Just to clarify, I was mocking the title for using the dated term “Negro”, not the content. Otherwise, wouldn’t “No Guns for _Juden_” be a better marketing gimmick? Anyway, as you were… ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2011, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-glenn-beck-compares-utoya-murder-victims-to-hitler-youth/590311/220 "2011-07-30T00:45:23Z")
> [@brazil84](#): > > My guess was that he was probably attacking me with sarcasm, but who knows. Wow, there really is no end to your paranoia. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-glenn-beck-compares-utoya-murder-victims-to-hitler-youth/590311.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-glenn-beck-compares-utoya-murder-victims-to-hitler-youth/590311.md?page=12)