# RO: Glenn Beck compares Utøya murder victims to Hitler Youth **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 25, 2011, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-glenn-beck-compares-utoya-murder-victims-to-hitler-youth/590311 "2011-07-25T21:12:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-glenn-beck-compares-utoya-murder-victims-to-hitler-youth/590311/141 "2011-07-26T19:04:08Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Jimmy Carter is about as antisemitic as Nentyahu What makes you so sure that he’s not an anti-Semite? Assuming that he singles out Israel for disproportionate criticism (and I do not know if this is the case), then what is the reason? ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-glenn-beck-compares-utoya-murder-victims-to-hitler-youth/590311/142 "2011-07-26T19:07:10Z")
> [@amanset](#): > > Out of interest, do political parties in the US have youth wings? I ask as here in Europe it seems every party does because, amazingly, some teenagers are really into politics. [Young Democrats](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_Democrats) [YD High School Caucus.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_Democrats_of_America_High_School_Caucus) [College Democrats.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/College_Democrats_of_America) [Young Republicans.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_Republicans) [Teenage Republicans.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teenage_Republicans) [College Republicans.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/College_Republican_National_Committee) [Young Americans for Freedom.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_americans_for_freedom) [Young Communist League.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_Communist_League_USA) ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-glenn-beck-compares-utoya-murder-victims-to-hitler-youth/590311/143 "2011-07-26T19:08:30Z")
> [@brazil84](#): > > What makes you so sure that he’s not an anti-Semite? Assuming that he singles out Israel for disproportionate criticism (and I do not know if this is the case), then what is the reason? The criticism is not disproportionate and the reasons are roughly the same as those for opposing Apartheid. ---
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-glenn-beck-compares-utoya-murder-victims-to-hitler-youth/590311/144 "2011-07-26T19:10:19Z")
> [@Superfluous\_Parentheses](#): > > You really are despicable. Lol, a brilliant comeback. > [@](#): > > ETA: By that logic, I could say that Israel is “a little like” Nazi Germany. And if you were evenhanded about it, I wouldn’t have a big problem with it. For example: Many of the world’s developed countries, including Canada, Western Europe, Israel, and many US States make it difficult or impossible for ordinary citizens to easily obtain and carry firearms. Thus they are all a **little like** Nazi Germany. ---
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-glenn-beck-compares-utoya-murder-victims-to-hitler-youth/590311/145 "2011-07-26T19:12:37Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > The criticism is not disproportionate I don’t know if that’s true or not, but assuming for the sake of argument that Carter is evenhanded in his criticism of different countries, then I would not conclude he is an anti-Semite based on the fact that he criticizes Israel. ---
**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-glenn-beck-compares-utoya-murder-victims-to-hitler-youth/590311/146 "2011-07-26T19:13:32Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > I’d already figured that out for the cases in point in this thread ( **chen09** or whatever and **brazil84** )… :eek: Chen0 **1** 9, please. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-glenn-beck-compares-utoya-murder-victims-to-hitler-youth/590311/147 "2011-07-26T19:14:33Z")
> [@brazil84](#): > > I don’t know if that’s true or not, but assuming for the sake of argument that Carter is evenhanded in his criticism of different countries . . . That is neither what I said nor in any way relevant to “disproportionate criticism.” ---
**Author:** ![Rune](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e68b1a/32.png) [@Rune](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rune)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-glenn-beck-compares-utoya-murder-victims-to-hitler-youth/590311/148 "2011-07-26T19:19:02Z")
btw. I’m honored, I think, that Beck made Geert Wilders Danish. Wonder why so many people confuse Denmark for the Netherlands. Can it be just because of the slight resemblance of Dutch and Danish? ---
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-glenn-beck-compares-utoya-murder-victims-to-hitler-youth/590311/149 "2011-07-26T19:21:39Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > That is neither what I said nor in any way relevant to “disproportionate criticism.” I don’t understand your point. Either he is even-handed (which would be pretty unusual but it probably happens once in a while) or his criticism of Israel is disproportionate. What other possibilities are there? I suppose it’s possible that he criticizes Israel proportionately less than other countries. ---
**Author:** ![Superfluous\_Parentheses](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8edcca/32.png) [@Superfluous\_Parentheses](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superfluous_Parentheses)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-glenn-beck-compares-utoya-murder-victims-to-hitler-youth/590311/150 "2011-07-26T19:30:46Z")
> [@Rune](#): > > btw. I’m honored, I think, that Beck made Geert Wilders Danish. Good. You take him. ---
**Author:** ![Superfluous\_Parentheses](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8edcca/32.png) [@Superfluous\_Parentheses](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superfluous_Parentheses)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-glenn-beck-compares-utoya-murder-victims-to-hitler-youth/590311/151 "2011-07-26T19:36:42Z")
> [@brazil84](#): > > I don’t understand your point. Either he is even-handed (which would be pretty unusual but it probably happens once in a while) or his criticism of Israel is disproportionate. What other possibilities are there? It should be quite obvious that criticism should be proportional to the severeness of object of the critique. You also quite obviously do not see that. Arresting and jailing a mugger is not disproportional just because some other guy got away with it. ---
**Author:** ![Rune](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e68b1a/32.png) [@Rune](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rune)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-glenn-beck-compares-utoya-murder-victims-to-hitler-youth/590311/152 "2011-07-26T19:38:09Z")
> [@Superfluous\_Parentheses](#): > > Good. You take him. Ok, I get it now. The Dutch are waging a nefarious international public relations campaign to associate all their embarrassing bits with Denmark, and no doubt steal our many glorious achievements as their own too. ---
**Author:** ![Superfluous\_Parentheses](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8edcca/32.png) [@Superfluous\_Parentheses](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superfluous_Parentheses)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-glenn-beck-compares-utoya-murder-victims-to-hitler-youth/590311/153 "2011-07-26T19:41:48Z")
> [@Rune](#): > > Ok, I get it now. The Dutch are waging a nefarious international public relations campaign to associate all their embarrassing bits with Denmark, and no doubt steal our many glorious achievements as their own too. We’ve already got tall blond women of our own, but I just don’t like Wilders. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-glenn-beck-compares-utoya-murder-victims-to-hitler-youth/590311/154 "2011-07-26T19:53:38Z")
> [@Rune](#): > > our many glorious achievements Wait! ::Grabs notebook, sharpens pencil, put on eyeglasses:: Ready. Now tell me, what _are_ these? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-glenn-beck-compares-utoya-murder-victims-to-hitler-youth/590311/155 "2011-07-26T19:57:23Z")
> [@Superfluous\_Parentheses](#): > > Arresting and jailing a mugger is not disproportional just because some other guy got away with it. From now on, convicted muggers of Race X will get 30 years in jail and convicted muggers of Race Y will get 1 year in jail. Further, we will investigate 90% of the muggings where the perpetrator is alleged to be of Race X and 10% of the muggings where the perpetrator is alleged to be of Race Y. Any complaints that this policy is motivated by racism will be referred to **Superfluous Parenthesis**. Have a nice day. ---
**Author:** ![Superfluous\_Parentheses](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8edcca/32.png) [@Superfluous\_Parentheses](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superfluous_Parentheses)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-glenn-beck-compares-utoya-murder-victims-to-hitler-youth/590311/156 "2011-07-26T20:02:05Z")
> [@brazil84](#): > > From now on, convicted muggers of Race X will get 30 years in jail and convicted muggers of Race Y will get 1 year in jail. Further, we will investigate 90% of the muggings where the perpetrator is alleged to be of Race X and 10% of the muggings where the perpetrator is alleged to be of Race Y. > > Any complaints that this policy is motivated by racism will be referred to **Superfluous Parenthesis**. > > Have a nice day. I see your point. Of course muggers of race X should also only get 1 year in jail 10% of the time. Any criticism of this view point will make you biased against race X. ---
**Author:** ![Rune](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e68b1a/32.png) [@Rune](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rune)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-glenn-beck-compares-utoya-murder-victims-to-hitler-youth/590311/157 "2011-07-26T20:06:51Z")
> [@Superfluous\_Parentheses](#): > > We’ve already got tall blond women of our own, but I just don’t like Wilders. 😃 Yes, for a tall blond woman he sure looks ugly. > [@Mighty\_Girl](#): > > Wait! > > ::Grabs notebook, sharpens pencil, put on eyeglasses:: > > Ready. Now tell me, what _are_ these? > 😉 Me. ---
**Author:** ![Superfluous\_Parentheses](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8edcca/32.png) [@Superfluous\_Parentheses](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superfluous_Parentheses)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-glenn-beck-compares-utoya-murder-victims-to-hitler-youth/590311/158 "2011-07-26T20:08:02Z")
> [@Rune](#): > > Yes, for a tall blond woman he sure looks ugly. I don’t think he’s all that tall and he dyes his hair. ---
**Author:** ![Rune](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e68b1a/32.png) [@Rune](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rune)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-glenn-beck-compares-utoya-murder-victims-to-hitler-youth/590311/159 "2011-07-26T20:11:30Z")
> [@Superfluous\_Parentheses](#): > > I don’t think he’s all that tall and he dyes his hair. Yikes! A bottle blonde in high heels. What a fake! No wonder you don’t like him. ---
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-glenn-beck-compares-utoya-murder-victims-to-hitler-youth/590311/160 "2011-07-26T20:11:46Z")
> [@](#): > > Any criticism of this view point will make you biased against race X. Perhaps, but that’s a different question. You were analogizing incarceration of muggers to criticism of nations. Criticism of policies regarding incarceration of muggers does not really fit into your analogy. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-glenn-beck-compares-utoya-murder-victims-to-hitler-youth/590311.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-glenn-beck-compares-utoya-murder-victims-to-hitler-youth/590311.md?page=9)