# RO: Man slaughters women because he can't get a girlfriend **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 5, 2009, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-man-slaughters-women-because-he-cant-get-a-girlfriend/505435 "2009-08-05T17:12:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![athelas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5e9695/32.png) [@athelas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/athelas)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2009, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-man-slaughters-women-because-he-cant-get-a-girlfriend/505435/41 "2009-08-05T21:11:42Z")
Although, as Mr. Towers said, he might have had better luck if he had done everything else but refrained from shooting himself. ---
**Author:** ![supergoose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@supergoose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/supergoose)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2009, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-man-slaughters-women-because-he-cant-get-a-girlfriend/505435/42 "2009-08-05T21:11:53Z")
> [@athelas](#): > > I think there’s more to the story than we’re seeing. The pictures of him don’t make him look that bad for a guy in his 40s. Furthermore he’s pulling down good money at his job, including a recent promotion, which means he has a certain minimal level of social skills. There must be some other reason that he couldn’t get laid for nearly two decades. Maybe he had a palpable feeling of resentment, rage, and/or entitlement concerning casual social interactions with women that came across when he interacted with them? I haven’t read much of his own writing, except what has been posted here, but he seemed to feel that he wasn’t able to get what he wanted from women, which could indicate arrogance and selfishness, as well as possibly a manipulative approach that might have been obvious to the women he pursued. Good social skills in the work place don’t always correlate to even adequate social skills outside of work. ---
**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2009, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-man-slaughters-women-because-he-cant-get-a-girlfriend/505435/43 "2009-08-05T21:22:30Z")
Or maybe it’s just that all the bitches he met were filthy little teases. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2009, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-man-slaughters-women-because-he-cant-get-a-girlfriend/505435/44 "2009-08-05T21:40:07Z")
> [@BlackKnight](#): > > That sick fuck! Taking advantage of the situation by trying abscond with a wounded woman who couldn’t fight back. Is there no bottom to the depths to which men will sink? I blame _Borat_. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Plastic\_Ninja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f07891/32.png) [@Little\_Plastic\_Ninja](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Plastic_Ninja)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2009, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-man-slaughters-women-because-he-cant-get-a-girlfriend/505435/45 "2009-08-05T21:41:09Z")
> [@ivn1188](#): > > [This is the card of choice for lonetards.](http://thescholarsgarret.com/northernshores/membership_card.gif) _snort_ There’s a lot of… shall we say, socially challenged people in the SCA, but it ain’t nicknamed the ‘Society of Consenting Adults’ for nothin’. ---
**Author:** ![Digital\_Stimulus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@Digital\_Stimulus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Digital_Stimulus)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2009, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-man-slaughters-women-because-he-cant-get-a-girlfriend/505435/46 "2009-08-05T21:43:00Z")
> [@Binarydrone](#): > > …the lot of you need to shut the fuck up and go make me a sandwich. > [@Jimmy\_Joe\_Meager](#): > > Dammit **Claire** , shut up and go make me a sandwich. \ You both forgot to use the [sudo](http://xkcd.com/149/) command. \ ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2009, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-man-slaughters-women-because-he-cant-get-a-girlfriend/505435/47 "2009-08-05T21:50:11Z")
Amazing bit of logic on his part, unfortunately all too human. “The world won’t do what I want it to do (grant all my wishes), so therefore I have no control over my life.” No, sorry. “The World” is made of of other people who are busy working on their own shit. Of course they won’t do what you want them to do. This doesn’t mean that you have no control over your life, it only means that you don’t have control over **others**. You have control over your own _choices_. But apparently, the choice was never made to think “Gee, why am I such an anti-social dick?” and then do something constructive about it. No, instead, it’s “Lash out at random people who don’t know me from Adam” time. Yeah, that’ll learn 'em. ---
**Author:** ![athelas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5e9695/32.png) [@athelas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/athelas)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2009, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-man-slaughters-women-because-he-cant-get-a-girlfriend/505435/48 "2009-08-05T21:55:24Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > “The world won’t do what I want it to do (grant all my wishes), so therefore I have no control over my life.” > > No, sorry. “The World” is made of of other people who are busy working on their own shit. Of course they won’t do what you want them to do. This doesn’t mean that you have no control over your life, it only means that you don’t have control over **others**. You have control over your own _choices_. Too bad that instead of turning violent, he didn’t try to enact an affirmative action program or nondiscrimination legislation to swing things his way;) ---
**Author:** ![Carol\_the\_Impaler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Carol\_the\_Impaler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carol_the_Impaler)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2009, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-man-slaughters-women-because-he-cant-get-a-girlfriend/505435/49 "2009-08-05T22:02:13Z")
I bet the percentage of violent, sick men is much smaller than you’d think, **Claire**. I’ve known a lot of guys in my life, and have (luckily) only ran across one or two that I believe would be capable of this level of violence against women. Or any violence against women, for that matter. I think our society accepts violence like it’s a casual thing, and therein lies the problem, IMO. Honestly, I really do think that mass shooting was a taboo that’s been broken and it’s become more “acceptable”, if you will, in the mind of the violently crazy. There is no truth behind “Men do this” or “Women do that”. Neither gender has cornered the market on shocking acts of inhumanity. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2009, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-man-slaughters-women-because-he-cant-get-a-girlfriend/505435/50 "2009-08-05T22:06:28Z")
> [@Little\_Plastic\_Ninja](#): > > _snort_ > > There’s a lot of… shall we say, socially challenged people in the SCA, but it ain’t nicknamed the ‘Society of Consenting Adults’ for nothin’. No shit. After the public leaves, things loosen up considerably. Mead flows, corsets are unfastened, and nerds get laid like you wouldn’t believe. Sword-Carrying Assholes they might be, but they _get_ some. ---
**Author:** ![Orbifold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/779978/32.png) [@Orbifold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orbifold)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2009, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-man-slaughters-women-because-he-cant-get-a-girlfriend/505435/51 "2009-08-05T22:35:37Z")
> [@Binarydrone](#): > > Weird, I was just thinking about how feminized our whole culture is and how it seems to be designed to be overtly harmful to males. Ah well, to each their own strawman I guess. > [@Jester](#): > > Truly, it is society’s fault that the crazy man shot up a gym. That is the only possible explanation. > [@saoirse](#): > > Yes, it’s that damn testosterone! > > See? > [@Binarydrone](#): > > It seems like somewhere along the line it became acceptable and the norm to hold men in contempt. Look at the tone of the OP. Testosterone poisoning? Out culture nurturing male violence? What the fuck? I say that our culture is suffering from acute estrogen poisoning and that it nurtures female contempt and stridency and that the lot of you need to shut the fuck up and go make me a sandwich. > > Obviously it is somehow impossible to envision a world where one gender is elevated without the other being denigrated. Enough already. > [@Jimmy\_Joe\_Meager](#): > > Dammit **Claire** , shut up and go make me a sandwich. And iron my shirt. And blow me. > [@BlackKnight](#): > > That sick fuck! Taking advantage of the situation by trying abscond with a wounded woman who couldn’t fight back. Is there no bottom to the depths to which men will sink? > [@Pazu](#): > > Bastard probably just wanted to cop a feel. > > And I bet he picked her because she was hotter than the other wounded women. > [@Spartydog](#): > > Claire, > > Would you guess that the behavior that was exhibited by the person that is the subject of this thread [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=527037](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=527037) (which currently happens to be on the same page), suffered from estrogen poisoning? What about the woman that bashed in the skull of her child? Estrogen poisoning? The one that drown her kids in the bathtub. Estrogen poisoning? Should I go on? > [@Argent\_Towers](#): > > Seriously, whenever someone talks about how fucked up men supposedly are because of “testosterone poisoning” I tell them about all of the women who write to serial killers in prison wanting to marry them or fuck them. Richard Speck, Ted Bundy, you name it - the sickest, most vicious serial killers on the planet, and all of them get hundreds of letters from admiring women. What’s that all about? And what about women who keep coming back to husbands and boyfriends who beat them up? How sick and self-destructive is that? Jesus H. Christ, what is it with women and their craziness? > [@niblet\_head](#): > > I bet the percentage of violent, sick men is much smaller than you’d think, **Claire**. George Sodini may have killed three women in a selfish, pre-meditated killing spree, but at least he didn’t _hurt men’s feelings_ with an internet post. I think we know who the _real_ monster is here, **Claire** , hmm? ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2009, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-man-slaughters-women-because-he-cant-get-a-girlfriend/505435/52 "2009-08-05T22:39:12Z")
> [@Orbifold](#): > > George Sodini may have killed three women in a selfish, pre-meditated killing spree, but at least he didn’t _hurt men’s feelings_ with an internet post. I think we know who the _real_ monster is here, **Claire** , hmm? Well, what do you want people on here to say about the guy? Obviously everybody on the board is against killing sprees (I hope, anyway). Is it a surprise to you that people respond to the thread by making sick jokes or criticizing some of the assumptions of the OP? ---
**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2009, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-man-slaughters-women-because-he-cant-get-a-girlfriend/505435/53 "2009-08-05T22:40:23Z")
I don’t think it has to do with “hurting men’s feelings” so much as it does the downright stupidity of the claims in the OP. Ascribing the motives of an insane mind to all members of a society/gender/political party/etc. is philosophically lazy no matter what the subject. The fact that she brought up stereotypes to make her case made it even more worthy of ridicule. ---
**Author:** ![Binarydrone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3da27b/32.png) [@Binarydrone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Binarydrone)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2009, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-man-slaughters-women-because-he-cant-get-a-girlfriend/505435/54 "2009-08-05T22:53:16Z")
Pssh. Spoken like a true man. Why don’t you shut the fuck up and go oppress someone? ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2009, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-man-slaughters-women-because-he-cant-get-a-girlfriend/505435/55 "2009-08-05T22:53:21Z")
> [@Mr.Moto](#): > > I grew up about ten miles from here and used to go to Bridgeville all of the time. Well, we would have practically been neighbors. ---
**Author:** ![Binarydrone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3da27b/32.png) [@Binarydrone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Binarydrone)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2009, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-man-slaughters-women-because-he-cant-get-a-girlfriend/505435/56 "2009-08-05T22:54:19Z")
And when do I get my goddamn sandwich? ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Joe\_Meager](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bb73d2/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Joe\_Meager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Joe_Meager)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2009, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-man-slaughters-women-because-he-cant-get-a-girlfriend/505435/57 "2009-08-05T22:58:44Z")
And I my blowjob? ---
**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2009, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-man-slaughters-women-because-he-cant-get-a-girlfriend/505435/58 "2009-08-05T23:23:42Z")
Seems like Binarydrone and Jimmy Joe Meager could work out a trade of some sort… ---
**Author:** ![Carol\_the\_Impaler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Carol\_the\_Impaler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carol_the_Impaler)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2009, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-man-slaughters-women-because-he-cant-get-a-girlfriend/505435/59 "2009-08-05T23:32:19Z")
> [@Orbifold](#): > > George Sodini may have killed three women in a selfish, pre-meditated killing spree, but at least he didn’t _hurt men’s feelings_ with an internet post. I think we know who the _real_ monster is here, **Claire** , hmm? I’m perfectly willing to hurt mens’ feelings as needed. I’m also perfectly willing to hurt womens’ feelings as needed. I’m an equal opportunity feeling hurter-er. It’s not fair nor right to say that this heinous act was bred purely out of misongyny. (Ok, I’m not going to verify the spelling. I’m gonna wing it!) I see and hear about all the mass shootings in the last decade and the one common link seems to be rage and a sense of entitlement and drive for vengeance (I’m gonna wing it on that one, too.) and an inability to cope and mental illness. I don’t agree with the OP’s assesment. And I certainly don’t agree with stereotyping gender, whichever gender you mean. ---
**Author:** ![Chessic\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7c8e57/32.png) [@Chessic\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chessic_Sense)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2009, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-man-slaughters-women-because-he-cant-get-a-girlfriend/505435/60 "2009-08-05T23:46:07Z")
> [@BlackKnight](#): > > That sick fuck! Taking advantage of the situation by trying abscond with a wounded woman who couldn’t fight back. Is there no bottom to the depths to which men will sink? Actually, considering who I just found out that woman is, I’m pretty sure she would have approved anyhow. At least, that’s what they said about her in high school. I obviously haven’t grown up since then. So here’s a funny twist, that life is full of. Mom’s coworkers (married couple and friends of the family) usually hit that gym after work. Well the husband got held over late and the wife went early without him. Unmotivated without her hubby, she left early. The husband, originally planning to make up the workout without the wife, cancelled and instead went to one of our favorite hangouts. They missed the gunman by less than an hour. Now, what’s wierder (for me) is that on the way out, she said bye to another coworker of theirs. Later, as he left the gym, he was standing at the front reception desk when the dude walked in. He saw the lights go out and saw the muzzle flashes, so he bolted for the door. Afterward he went back in and tried to treat some of the victims. He says he didn’t sleep at all the night due to the disturbing images seared into his brain. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-man-slaughters-women-because-he-cant-get-a-girlfriend/505435.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-man-slaughters-women-because-he-cant-get-a-girlfriend/505435.md?page=4)