# RO: Somebody sends letter to neighbours telling them to kill their son

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-somebody-sends-letter-to-neighbours-telling-them-to-kill-their-son/666699>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 20, 2013, 7:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-somebody-sends-letter-to-neighbours-telling-them-to-kill-their-son/666699 "2013-08-20T07:28:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2013, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-somebody-sends-letter-to-neighbours-telling-them-to-kill-their-son/666699/121 "2013-08-24T01:52:15Z")

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> [@Girlundone](#):
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> Omg, I’m dying. That is fucking hilarious.

I wouldn’t encourage him. He applies weapons-grade obtuseness to all areas of human knowledge. Welcome to the SDMB, and if you have an evening to kill, do a search for all of the Pit threads started about **brazil84**.

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**Author:** ![Hershele\_Ostropoler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e47c2d/32.png) [@Hershele\_Ostropoler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hershele_Ostropoler)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2013, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-somebody-sends-letter-to-neighbours-telling-them-to-kill-their-son/666699/122 "2013-08-24T02:09:25Z")

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> [@brazil84](#):
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> There is a problem of some parents of children with mental/emotional problems being inconsiderate of their childrens’ misconduct towards other people.

Well … I’d hesitate to use the word “misconduct” because that implies more willfulness than is necessarily there, but it’s probably true that at least some such parents are willing (for various reasons) to attribute a lot more bad behavior to the child’s condition than is warranted.

> [@Reverse](#):
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> “Nobody wants you living here and they don’t have the guts to tell you”, wrote the author of the anonymous letter.

> [@C3](#):
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> During the course of my job, I often get homeowner complaints about other neighbors or things going on in the community. Without fail, they say something along those lines - everyone else is just as pissed about this as I am, but they’re too scared/busy/lazy to say anything about it, so I’m going to be the courageous person to speak the hard truth.

It’s the equivalent of “the lurkers support me in e-mail”

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**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2013, 8:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-somebody-sends-letter-to-neighbours-telling-them-to-kill-their-son/666699/123 "2013-08-24T08:16:47Z")

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> [@Maeglin](#):
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> I wouldn’t encourage him. He applies weapons-grade obtuseness to all areas of human knowledge.

i.e. I scrutinize a lot of peoples’ claims and they get annoyed from the cognitive dissonance it creates. Anyway, I’m about to put **girlundone** on my shit list so she won’t be “encouraging” me anymore.

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**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2013, 8:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-somebody-sends-letter-to-neighbours-telling-them-to-kill-their-son/666699/124 "2013-08-24T08:20:37Z")

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> [@Girlundone](#):
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> I’m sorry that all this reading had proven too much for you. I know it’s confusing what with more than one poster and all. Just go back and read slowly.

Lol, no need to wade through your nonsense trying to make sense of it. See, I don’t engage with people who insist on pretending I said something different from what I actually said. Which you did a couple posts back . . . .goodbye.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2013, 11:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-somebody-sends-letter-to-neighbours-telling-them-to-kill-their-son/666699/125 "2013-08-24T11:14:26Z")

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> [@brazil84](#):
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> Lol, no need to wade through your nonsense trying to make sense of it. See, I don’t engage with people who insist on pretending I said something different from what I actually said. Which you did a couple posts back . . . .goodbye.

Have you ever stopped and considered that maybe, _just maybe_, it isn’t everyone else; it’s you?

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**Author:** ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2013, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-somebody-sends-letter-to-neighbours-telling-them-to-kill-their-son/666699/126 "2013-08-24T11:47:00Z")

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> [@brazil84](#):
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> i.e. I scrutinize a lot of peoples’ claims and they get annoyed from the cognitive dissonance it creates. Anyway, I’m about to put **girlundone** on my shit list so she won’t be “encouraging” me anymore.

If by “scrutinize” you mean misread, misconstrue, and bray like a jackass, then yes, that is _exactly_ what you do.

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**Author:** ![Bozuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/edb3f5/32.png) [@Bozuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bozuit)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2013, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-somebody-sends-letter-to-neighbours-telling-them-to-kill-their-son/666699/127 "2013-08-24T12:04:54Z")

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This sounded like trolling by teenage boys to me, but having read the letter I’d guess it’s at least true that it’s written by a female. I can easily see that being the work of another mother.

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**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2013, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-somebody-sends-letter-to-neighbours-telling-them-to-kill-their-son/666699/128 "2013-08-24T12:35:48Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> Have you ever stopped and considered that maybe, _just maybe_, it isn’t everyone else; it’s you?

Sure of course. And of course not everyone I engage with reacts as I described.

> [@Maeglin](#):
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> If by “scrutinize” you mean misread, misconstrue, and bray like a jackass, then yes, that is exactly what you do.

Please show me two posts I have misconstrued. Provide cites, quotes, and links. Failing that, please admit that you are wrong and apologize.

In other words, put up or shut up. (Although I have a feeling you will do neither.)

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**Author:** ![Girlundone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/919ad9/32.png) [@Girlundone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Girlundone)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2013, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-somebody-sends-letter-to-neighbours-telling-them-to-kill-their-son/666699/129 "2013-08-24T13:29:40Z")

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Oh no I’m on Brazil84’s shit list? I shall take to my bed for the day and weep. How oh how have I fallen from his good graces?! Whatever shall I do without his validation?! How will I go on?

Life just won’t be worth living now.

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**Author:** ![Girlundone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/919ad9/32.png) [@Girlundone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Girlundone)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2013, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-somebody-sends-letter-to-neighbours-telling-them-to-kill-their-son/666699/130 "2013-08-24T14:09:51Z")

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[QUOTE=zago]  
Unfortunately, a lot of the mischief that disabled kids get into can’t be foreseen  
[/QUOTE]  
A lot of the mischief that _any kids_ can get into can’t be foreseen. Cognitively challenged people certainly haven’t cornered the market on doing stupid shit. My other “typically developing” children have acted impulsively, made poor decisions, or acted like idiots a time or two. Teenagers in general aren’t always known for their foresight.

> [@](#):
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> I guess my point is, once shit happens, parents should try to curb the behavior.

Well, yeah…otherwise known as “parenting”.

Ps kayaker, I’m still laughing today about the grouchy neighbor unknowingly fondling dog shit by deflating the balls. Some people just don’t seem to get that most of their problems are of their own making.

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**Author:** ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2013, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-somebody-sends-letter-to-neighbours-telling-them-to-kill-their-son/666699/131 "2013-08-24T14:22:07Z")

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> [@brazil84](#):
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> Sure of course. And of course not everyone I engage with reacts as I described.
> 
> Please show me two posts I have misconstrued. Provide cites, quotes, and links. Failing that, please admit that you are wrong and apologize.
> 
> In other words, put up or shut up. (Although I have a feeling you will do neither.)

Boy, that was easy. Naturally you didn’t think you were getting the worst of these exchanges, but no doubt anyone sufficiently interested can come to their own conclusions.

[One.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15894540&postcount=420)

> [@](#):
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> brazil84, I’ve tried to reasonably argue with you, but you misrepresent what I say and (willfully?) misunderstand it to support your contention that I’m the one who weasels, shifts goalposts, and doesn’t have a solid grip on the argument. This is getting ten kinds of ridiculous…
> 
> But why do I bother? You misread statements or just flat-out misrepresent them, and you are completely incapable of dealing with nuance. Some people just can’t be helped.

[Two – long thread, very informative.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15145037&postcount=1081)

> [@](#):
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> He really hasn’t, but I guess you [brazil84] lack the reading comprehension to get that. I understand that feeling. You’ve ignored or misread evidence throughout this thread. Reasoning with you is worthless. GIGO, indeed.

[Here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/search.php?searchid=10095276) is the **brazil84** opera omnia, including the classic [brazil84: preening, sexist, self-important, gynophobic douche](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=621796&highlight=brazil84).

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**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2013, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-somebody-sends-letter-to-neighbours-telling-them-to-kill-their-son/666699/132 "2013-08-24T14:57:42Z")

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> [@Maeglin](#):
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> Boy, that was easy.

Umm, please quote the exact posts which I misconstrued. I’m not interested in seeing mere conclusions – quote and link the actual posts which I supposedly misconstrued and show me my response which supposedly misconstrues the post.

Failing that, please admit that you are wrong and apologize.

Last time I will ask.

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**Author:** ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2013, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-somebody-sends-letter-to-neighbours-telling-them-to-kill-their-son/666699/133 "2013-08-24T15:12:36Z")

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Your damage is not restricted to single posts but to entire threads. You don’t just misread posts but misconstrue and misrepresent entire dialogues. This is plain as day to anyone who spends five minutes reading the threads you have ruined.

You are not going to bait me into doing bullshit discovery work for you. I’m not here to persuade you; I am here to _verbally abuse_ you. You are a liar, a jackass, a disingenuous sack of sloth shit, and a pitiful excuse for a human being, **brazil84**. You are not a conversation partner; you are a conversational terrorist who deserves to be named, blamed, and shamed for what you do around here. You are neither worth engaging with nor debating, but you are worth exposing every time you crawl in under the door and peddle your fetid little message board turds. It should surprise no one that over the course of years, you have generated no light around here but plenty of anger and contempt.

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**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2013, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-somebody-sends-letter-to-neighbours-telling-them-to-kill-their-son/666699/134 "2013-08-24T15:21:17Z")

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> [@Maeglin](#):
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> Your damage is not restricted to single posts but to entire threads. You don’t just misread posts but misconstrue and misrepresent entire dialogues. This is plain as day to anyone who spends five minutes reading the threads you have ruined.
> 
> You are not going to bait me into doing bullshit discovery work for you.

Lol, it’s not my responsibility to go searching for evidence to support your claims.

The burden of proof is on you. I challenged you to put up or shut up, and unsurprisingly you did neither.

Goodbye, liar.

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**Author:** ![elninost0rm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ed655f/32.png) [@elninost0rm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elninost0rm)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2013, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-somebody-sends-letter-to-neighbours-telling-them-to-kill-their-son/666699/135 "2013-08-24T15:53:54Z")

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> [@brazil84](#):
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> lol, it’s not my responsibility to go searching for evidence to support your claims.
> 
> The burden of proof is on you. I challenged you to put up or shut up, and unsurprisingly you did neither.
> 
> Goodbye, liar.

no! Not the ignore list! Naaaaaaaaooooooooooooo

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**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2013, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-somebody-sends-letter-to-neighbours-telling-them-to-kill-their-son/666699/136 "2013-08-24T15:54:33Z")

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> [@Maeglin](#):
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> I wouldn’t encourage him. He applies weapons-grade obtuseness to all areas of human knowledge. Welcome to the SDMB, and if you have an evening to kill, do a search for all of the Pit threads started about **brazil84**.

Actually, he’s so stupid he can turn a pitting of someone else into a pitting of his own.

[Here’s a good recent example.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=698439)

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**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2013, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-somebody-sends-letter-to-neighbours-telling-them-to-kill-their-son/666699/137 "2013-08-24T16:12:49Z")

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> [@Cheshire\_Human](#):
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> Actually, he’s so stupid he can turn a pitting of someone else into a pitting of his own.

And look! He’s managing to do it _again_ in _this_ thread!

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**Author:** ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2013, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-somebody-sends-letter-to-neighbours-telling-them-to-kill-their-son/666699/138 "2013-08-24T16:13:01Z")

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> [@Cheshire\_Human](#):
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> Actually, he’s so stupid he can turn a pitting of someone else into a pitting of his own.
> 
> [Here’s a good recent example.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=698439)

That is breathtaking.

Now that **brazil84** is ignoring me, I can continue to disparage him without having to do his homework for him, too.

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**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2013, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-somebody-sends-letter-to-neighbours-telling-them-to-kill-their-son/666699/139 "2013-08-24T16:32:54Z")

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> [@elninost0rm](#):
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> no! Not the ignore list! Naaaaaaaaooooooooooooo

Lol, I’m simply not interested in engaging with somebody who lies about what I have said.

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**Author:** ![Girlundone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/919ad9/32.png) [@Girlundone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Girlundone)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2013, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-somebody-sends-letter-to-neighbours-telling-them-to-kill-their-son/666699/140 "2013-08-24T16:46:44Z")

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[QUOTE=brazil84]  
Lol, I’m simply not interested in engaging with somebody who lies about what I have said.  
[/QUOTE]  
PS…nobody cares. Good god, even my autistic son has a better understanding of social nuances than you do.

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