# RO:  This is totally going to kill Bring Your Clock to School Day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-this-is-totally-going-to-kill-bring-your-clock-to-school-day/731454>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 16, 2015, 8:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-this-is-totally-going-to-kill-bring-your-clock-to-school-day/731454 "2015-09-16T08:35:53Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2015, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-this-is-totally-going-to-kill-bring-your-clock-to-school-day/731454/1201 "2015-10-05T18:46:10Z")

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> [@FXMastermind](#):
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> I doubt very much his bad wiring was even a factor in this matter.

Right. But it _is_ very much a factor in continuing the Gish Gallop, which would otherwise falter by dearth of un-rebutted insane arguments.

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**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2015, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-this-is-totally-going-to-kill-bring-your-clock-to-school-day/731454/1202 "2015-10-05T18:48:04Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> The authorities didn’t care. Why should Obama?

Listen, we know Obama didn’t see the clock, or send the tweet. Let it go man. Let it go.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2015, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-this-is-totally-going-to-kill-bring-your-clock-to-school-day/731454/1203 "2015-10-05T19:23:35Z")

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> [@FXMastermind](#):
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> Listen, we know Obama didn’t see the clock, or send the tweet. Let it go man. Let it go.

We don’t know this – unless you’re just yet another Doper mind-reader. The pictures and story were out before the tweet was made.

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2015, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-this-is-totally-going-to-kill-bring-your-clock-to-school-day/731454/1204 "2015-10-05T19:50:37Z")

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> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#):
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> I don’t believe for one second that anything would have come from a mere suspension, complained about on the internet, by a 14 year old kid or his father. And I don’t think they thought so either.

I’m not saying it would have garnered an invitation to the White House and all that, or that they expected that level of attention. I do think they thought it might get some juice on Twitter or Daily Kos, and maybe if they made enough of a stink about it, get the local TV news or newspaper to come out and talk to them again if it was a slow news day.

> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> Forgot already, have we?

Nope, but \*you \*have forgotten. Or, more likely, you decided to quote selectively, leaving this part out:

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> Detention wasn’t the worst of it. While his discipline record is confidential and his father didn’t want to discuss it, the file was thick by some accounts.

Pooh-poohing of what’s behind that “thick” file based on some friends’ reassurances is less than meaningless if the actual file is not released.

Even shadier, you also “forgot” to include the [link](http://www.dallasnews.com/news/community-news/northwest-dallas-county/headlines/20150926-before-ahmeds-fame-fantastic-inventions-and-a-fight-with-authority.ece) to the source.

**Doorhinge** , FFS: you’re still calling the principal the “principle”. :smack:

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2015, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-this-is-totally-going-to-kill-bring-your-clock-to-school-day/731454/1205 "2015-10-05T20:01:35Z")

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We know that the teacher didn’t see faulty wiring as she did not mention faulty wiring. If you see something, say something.  
We know the principal did not see faulty wiring as he did not mention faulty wiring. If you see something, say something.  
We know the police did not see faulty wiring as they did not mention faulty wiring, If you see something… man, I have no idea how people do this.

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**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2015, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-this-is-totally-going-to-kill-bring-your-clock-to-school-day/731454/1206 "2015-10-05T20:02:16Z")

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We have no lives

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2015, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-this-is-totally-going-to-kill-bring-your-clock-to-school-day/731454/1207 "2015-10-05T20:14:11Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> The authorities didn’t care. Why should Obama?

Which authorities?

I doubt that this would be the first time Obama didn’t care about the history of who he invites to the WH.

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2015, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-this-is-totally-going-to-kill-bring-your-clock-to-school-day/731454/1208 "2015-10-05T20:16:00Z")

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> [@SlackerInc](#):
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> … **Doorhinge** , FFS: you’re still calling the principal the “principle”. :smack:

Who are you talking to? :smack:

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2015, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-this-is-totally-going-to-kill-bring-your-clock-to-school-day/731454/1209 "2015-10-05T20:25:17Z")

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> [@Jophiel](#):
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> We know that the teacher didn’t see faulty wiring as she did not mention faulty wiring. If you see something, say something.  
> We know the principal did not see faulty wiring as he did not mention faulty wiring. If you see something, say something.  
> We know the police did not see faulty wiring as they did not mention faulty wiring, If you see something… man, I have no idea how people do this.

It sounds like you’re assuming that you know the teacher didn’t see faulty wiring because the media outlets didn’t mention the teacher might have mentioned faulty wiring?

Did the media report that the teacher didn’t see faulty wiring? Or a hazardous condition? Or a dangerous device? Wasn’t the media concentrating their efforts claiming there were claims of a bomb?

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2015, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-this-is-totally-going-to-kill-bring-your-clock-to-school-day/731454/1210 "2015-10-05T20:29:14Z")

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Have the media reported that Ahmed’s incarceration WASN’T due to his intimate relationship with the school mascot (a striped ocelot named Frank) ? We don’t know and it’s exceedingly unlikely, therefore we must assume it to be true barring direct evidence to the contrary.

Also, you’re a partisan hack.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2015, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-this-is-totally-going-to-kill-bring-your-clock-to-school-day/731454/1211 "2015-10-05T20:32:10Z")

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> [@SlackerInc](#):
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> Pooh-poohing of what’s behind that “thick” file based on some friends’ reassurances is less than meaningless if the actual file is not released.

Oh, the teacher, the school district’s attorney, and whomever else was interviewed are his friend? :dubious:

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2015, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-this-is-totally-going-to-kill-bring-your-clock-to-school-day/731454/1212 "2015-10-05T20:35:23Z")

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> [@SlackerInc](#):
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> Pooh-poohing of what’s behind that “thick” file based on some friends’ reassurances is less than meaningless if the actual file is not released.

More innuendo about a child. Shame on you.

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**Author:** ![boytyperanma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4491bb/32.png) [@boytyperanma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boytyperanma)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2015, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-this-is-totally-going-to-kill-bring-your-clock-to-school-day/731454/1213 "2015-10-05T20:44:49Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> Have the media reported that Ahmed’s incarceration WASN’T due to his intimate relationship with the school mascot (a striped ocelot named Frank) ? We don’t know and it’s exceedingly unlikely, therefore we must assume it to be true barring direct evidence to the contrary.
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> Also, you’re a partisan hack.

Wow I was totally on this kids side. ow I’m hearing rumors about non-consentual relationships with Ocelots! It must be a media conspiracy this possibility didn’t come up sooner!

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2015, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-this-is-totally-going-to-kill-bring-your-clock-to-school-day/731454/1214 "2015-10-05T20:45:28Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> Which authorities?

Any of them. All of them. Take your pick.

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2015, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-this-is-totally-going-to-kill-bring-your-clock-to-school-day/731454/1215 "2015-10-05T21:05:53Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> Have the media reported that Ahmed’s incarceration WASN’T due to his intimate relationship with the school mascot (a striped ocelot named Frank) ? We don’t know and it’s exceedingly unlikely, therefore we must assume it to be true barring direct evidence to the contrary.
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> Also, you’re a partisan hack.

Have stopped beating your ocelot, yet?

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2015, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-this-is-totally-going-to-kill-bring-your-clock-to-school-day/731454/1216 "2015-10-05T21:12:42Z")

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> [@boytyperanma](#):
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> Wow I was totally on this kids side. ow I’m hearing rumors about non-consentual relationships with Ocelots! It must be a media conspiracy this possibility didn’t come up sooner!

If “Ahmed was fucking an ocelot !” trends on Twitter or makes the Breitbart headlines, you owe me a six-pack.

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2015, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-this-is-totally-going-to-kill-bring-your-clock-to-school-day/731454/1217 "2015-10-05T21:33:15Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> Who are you talking to? :smack:

You, dummy.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2015, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-this-is-totally-going-to-kill-bring-your-clock-to-school-day/731454/1218 "2015-10-06T00:46:32Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> Oh, the teacher, the school district’s attorney, and whomever else was interviewed are his friend? :dubious:

S&G Correction #2 for this thread: “whoever”, not “whomever”.

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2015, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-this-is-totally-going-to-kill-bring-your-clock-to-school-day/731454/1219 "2015-10-06T17:01:58Z")

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> [@SlackerInc](#):
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> You, dummy.

At least I can spell my nom de plume correctly, which is something you are repeatedly unable to do. 😃

Thanks for playing. Better luck next time.

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2015, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-this-is-totally-going-to-kill-bring-your-clock-to-school-day/731454/1220 "2015-10-06T17:07:21Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> S&G Correction #2 for this thread: “whoever”, not “whomever”.

Praise **G–dere** , may She be ever with us.

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