# RO: This is totally going to kill Bring Your Clock to School Day **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 16, 2015, 8:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-this-is-totally-going-to-kill-bring-your-clock-to-school-day/731454 "2015-09-16T08:35:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 63
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2015, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-this-is-totally-going-to-kill-bring-your-clock-to-school-day/731454/1241 "2015-10-07T18:03:54Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > ETA2: Oh wait, is this a Palinism? I think I got it now. Hoo boy. Dingdingding! ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2015, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-this-is-totally-going-to-kill-bring-your-clock-to-school-day/731454/1242 "2015-10-07T18:05:00Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > OK, then what the hell is the Lame Stream Media? All media outlets that are not Fox News. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2015, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-this-is-totally-going-to-kill-bring-your-clock-to-school-day/731454/1243 "2015-10-07T18:06:21Z")
Seriously? I suspect sarcasm there ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2015, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-this-is-totally-going-to-kill-bring-your-clock-to-school-day/731454/1244 "2015-10-07T18:12:45Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > Seriously? I suspect sarcasm there Good job, genius. I know it is hard, though, to perceive sarcasm or especially irony when you’re a right winger. I had a good laugh yesterday when in the comments section of [this NPR story](http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/10/06/446365314/3-questions-with-the-guy-who-hates-renoir) some conservative dumbass seized upon the sentence “There are plenty of dead, white males and their male gaze in museums already.” Said dumbass got all excited and exclaimed “SJW!”, apparently sure they had filled their conservative buzzword bingo card…not realizing the joke was actually on them, and that they were predictably playing their role as the real object of ridicule. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![xenophon41](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xenophon41/32/253_2.png) [@xenophon41](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xenophon41)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2015, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-this-is-totally-going-to-kill-bring-your-clock-to-school-day/731454/1245 "2015-10-07T18:17:58Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > Or you could just capitalize it when it appears at the beginning of the sentence, the same way you capitalized the words “The” and “Guess” in this post. Why are you so resistant to doing so? SDMB usernames are selected and entered by each poster individually. I always assume a poster chose the lowercase spelling deliberately. Since these handles are IMO in the same class as artistic pseudonyms, and since posts on a public message board are in the same class as tagged/signed graffiti or other posted notices (again, IMO), I choose to respect the syntax of the individual more than the consensus of grammarians. So that’s my reason. Do you have a reason for being a pain in the ass about it? Like, is it some sort of compulsion? Do other types of intentional grammar goofs haunt you as well? I’d hate to imagine you popping out in cold sweats whenever you encounter modern poetry or a Cormac McCarthy novel. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2015, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-this-is-totally-going-to-kill-bring-your-clock-to-school-day/731454/1246 "2015-10-07T18:29:12Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > The kid was going to get suspended. He had blatantly violated school rules. He wanted to draw attention to himself and the LSM played along. > [@doorhinge](#): > > The kid was going to get suspended. He had blatantly violated school rules. He wanted to draw attention to himself and the LSM played along. In the remake of _Rain Man_, **doorhinge** ’s estranged brother takes him to Las Vegas, where they immediately lose all of their money and are kicked out of the casino because **doorhinge** refuses to stop cramming poker chips and dice into his mouth and shouting “BINGO!” ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2015, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-this-is-totally-going-to-kill-bring-your-clock-to-school-day/731454/1247 "2015-10-07T18:46:36Z")
> [@xenophon41](#): > > Do you have a reason for being a pain in the ass about it? Like, is it some sort of compulsion? A personal preference that can’t quite be expressed in words? Like how that (according to some reports) the boy’s file is “thick” but its contents won’t be released so they must paint the boy in a bad light, even though everyone (not just his friends) interviewed says otherwise? Are the source(s) for this “thick” file his friend(s) as well? ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2015, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-this-is-totally-going-to-kill-bring-your-clock-to-school-day/731454/1248 "2015-10-07T18:50:41Z")
Thick people. ---
**Author:** ![Abe\_Babe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Abe\_Babe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abe_Babe)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2015, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-this-is-totally-going-to-kill-bring-your-clock-to-school-day/731454/1249 "2015-10-07T18:55:24Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > Seriously? I suspect sarcasm there Oh _reeeeeeeaaaaaaall1lllyy_? ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2015, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-this-is-totally-going-to-kill-bring-your-clock-to-school-day/731454/1250 "2015-10-07T21:15:18Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > I was thinking the same thing about your post. This thread is about some stupid kid bringing a hazardous timing device to school. Some people prefer the namecalling. It’s the Pit. Hazardous device? Really? A clock? No wonder your only defense is to repeat his nonsense and complain about name calling. > [@](#): > > The kid was going to get suspended. He had blatantly violated school rules. He wanted to draw attention to himself and the LSM played along. People saw that this was a BS suspension. We called them out on it. Psychotic pro-authoritarians have been scrambling desperately to justify the idiot actions of the school ever since. > [@](#): > > The teacher and principle seem to have followed school safety protocol. They didn’t do anything wrong. The kid screwed up. Repeatedly. Hooray! Let’s invite him to the WH. The school failed on every level. If there was a hazard they didn’t take nearly enough precautions. If there wasn’t, they overreacted spectacularly. No matter how many time you repeat your mantra it won’t change reality. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2015, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-this-is-totally-going-to-kill-bring-your-clock-to-school-day/731454/1251 "2015-10-07T21:20:53Z")
What the hell does a ‘Thick File’ mean anyway?! I have a friend from High School who would could be considered to have had a ‘thick file’, with multiple demerits and even a few suspensions. He’s a very effective public defendant now. He’s not the only one from my class with such a record. Difference is my school seemed knew how to not overreact & panic and properly discipline students when called for. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2015, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-this-is-totally-going-to-kill-bring-your-clock-to-school-day/731454/1252 "2015-10-07T21:34:07Z")
> [@Mr.Miskatonic](#): > > Difference is my school seemed knew how to not overreact & panic and properly discipline students when called for. An important difference if that teacher is correct about the middle school being quick on the draw wrt suspensions. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2015, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-this-is-totally-going-to-kill-bring-your-clock-to-school-day/731454/1253 "2015-10-07T21:43:48Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > In the remake of _Rain Man_, **doorhinge** ’s estranged brother takes him to Las Vegas, where they immediately lose all of their money and are kicked out of the casino because **doorhinge** refuses to stop cramming poker chips and dice into his mouth and shouting “BINGO!” That’s just silly. How do you shout bingo with a mouth full of $500 poker chips? ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2015, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-this-is-totally-going-to-kill-bring-your-clock-to-school-day/731454/1254 "2015-10-07T22:04:49Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > OK, then what the hell is the Lame Stream Media? Any media outlet that reports a story without vetting the facts. Actually vetting the facts and not “reporting” what some other LSM non-story-vetting outlet, or the internet is reporting. :smack: A good, recent, example would be the main stream media’s early reporting of the monster murdering people at Oregon’s Umpqua Community College. The monster is 20 years old. (wrong.) The monster had four illegally obtained firearms. (wrong.) The police shot and killed the monster. (wrong.) 13 people have died, no wait, 11 people have died, whoops, 10 people have died. (wrong, wrong, wrong). etc. etc. etc. I prefer to wait 48 hours before believing any of the _Late Breaking Stories_ produced by the LSM. YMMV. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2015, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-this-is-totally-going-to-kill-bring-your-clock-to-school-day/731454/1255 "2015-10-07T22:20:13Z")
Hey, Dummy, have you stopped hitting your wife? Stop trying to colour the water through association. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2015, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-this-is-totally-going-to-kill-bring-your-clock-to-school-day/731454/1256 "2015-10-07T22:26:34Z")
> [@Mr.Miskatonic](#): > > Hazardous device? Really? A clock? No wonder your only defense is to repeat his nonsense and complain about name calling. > > People saw that this was a BS suspension. We called them out on it. Psychotic pro-authoritarians have been scrambling desperately to justify the idiot actions of the school ever since. > > The school failed on every level. If there was a hazard they didn’t take nearly enough precautions. If there wasn’t, they overreacted spectacularly. No matter how many time you repeat your mantra it won’t change reality. Yes, the clock was, and is, a hazardous device. Another student could have been burned, hurt, or killed. Name-calling is part of the Pit. RESPONDING to the name calling is also part of the Pit. Feigned indignation because someone chose to defend themselves against the name-calling is hy-sterical. The school personal did their job, which is to keep ALL of the students safe. The social networks pissed in their Underroos and screamed racism. School districts will still do their best to keep the children safe from stupid clock-inventors who can’t follow simple instructions. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2015, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-this-is-totally-going-to-kill-bring-your-clock-to-school-day/731454/1257 "2015-10-07T22:42:50Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > Yes, the clock was, and is, a hazardous device. Another student could have been burned, hurt, or killed. Pwah! hyperbole much? Kids were in more danger from [pencils](http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21944527) than [this thing](http://www.wired.com/2015/09/heres-bomb-clock-got-ahmed-mohamed-arrested/). > [@](#): > > The school personal did their job, which is to keep ALL of the students safe. Really? Was there an evacuation of the school? No. There wasn’t. Seems like they weren’t too concerned. Was the bomb squad called? Nope. > [@](#): > > The social networks pissed in their Underroos and screamed racism. School districts will still do their best to keep the children safe from stupid clock-inventors who can’t follow simple instructions. All the school did was get a kid arrested. None of their actions portray a school thinking it is dealing with an actual threat. No evacuation. No bomb squad. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2015, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-this-is-totally-going-to-kill-bring-your-clock-to-school-day/731454/1258 "2015-10-07T22:46:33Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > The school personal did their job, which is to keep ALL of the students safe. They failed to do their job and failed to keep the student safe when they had him arrested and run through the station. ---
**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2015, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-this-is-totally-going-to-kill-bring-your-clock-to-school-day/731454/1259 "2015-10-08T00:45:41Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > Yes, the clock was, and is, a hazardous device. Another student could have been burned, hurt, or killed. Post-hoc rationalization. The device was not taken away from him because it was hazardous. He was not pulled out of sixth period and questioned without his parents because it was hazardous. He was not arrested and fingerprinted because it was hazardous. All of this happened because all purportedly adult participants believed Ahmed intended the device as a hoax bomb. ---
**Author:** ![excavating\_for\_a\_mind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e8c25b/32.png) [@excavating\_for\_a\_mind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/excavating_for_a_mind)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2015, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-this-is-totally-going-to-kill-bring-your-clock-to-school-day/731454/1260 "2015-10-08T01:24:04Z")
> [@Punoqllads](#): > > All of this happened because all purportedly adult participants believed Ahmed intended the device as a hoax bomb. Actually, all this happened because Ahmed could not (or would not) explain why he brought a device to school that was intended to resemble a “movie bomb”. Anyone who believes it does not resemble the devices called “bombs” in the movies haven’t seen very many bad movies that used bombs as a plot device. His explanations were empty and he wouldn’t answer their questions. The school’s only recourse was to let the police handle it. Being arrested for not cooperating with the police is common, regardless of the color of your skin or your heritage, although it seems that some people are more cooperative than others. Ahmed’s being arrested was his own fault for not explaining why he built the device (and, no, he did not build it to see if he could build a clock. He started with a clock; he built a “movie bomb” for reasons he did not want to explain). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-this-is-totally-going-to-kill-bring-your-clock-to-school-day/731454.md?page=62) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-this-is-totally-going-to-kill-bring-your-clock-to-school-day/731454.md?page=64)