# RO: This is totally going to kill Bring Your Clock to School Day **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 16, 2015, 8:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-this-is-totally-going-to-kill-bring-your-clock-to-school-day/731454 "2015-09-16T08:35:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Mtgman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5a626/32.png) [@Mtgman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mtgman)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2015, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-this-is-totally-going-to-kill-bring-your-clock-to-school-day/731454/121 "2015-09-16T22:02:02Z")
His ticket should jointly come out of the Irving School and Police budgets, specifically out of the salaries of everyone who didn’t have the intelligence or courage to stop this trainwreck. Scale the portion they pay according to their respective pay rates. So the police chief and principal who are defending this as the right thing to have done take the biggest hits. At some point someone should have stepped up and said “Mistakes were made, this stops here.” The higher up on the chain you are the more responsibility you have to stop a trainwreck instead of continuing it. It’s similar to what happened a year or so ago when the first case of Ebola was in Dallas. The city/county were so paralyzed with fear they quarantined the family of Thomas Erik Duncan in their home and they had no food or other basic necessities. The apartment had not been decontaminated and they were not being allowed contact with people who wanted to help them. It took a man of courage, County Judge Clay Jenkins, to break the lines of fear and rescue them. He literally walked into the apartment in his street clothes and took the family of Mr. Duncan out with him, and drove them, in his own vehicle, to a new apartment so health workers could monitor them and decontaminate the old apartment. He did what no one else was willing to do, because the people in that apartment deserved relief from those conditions. What this case needed was someone with a fraction of the courage of Mr. Jenkins to say “guys, this isn’t a bomb or even a hoax of one and if you’re going to put this young man in cuffs you’ll have to put me in them too.” That person should have been the principal, or the counselor, or the first officer on the scene, but it should have been way below the chief of police or the school superintendent, who still apparently haven’t had the courage to admit their mistakes, and instead are trying to spin this as a reasonable reaction to the situation. Enjoy, Steven ---
**Author:** ![Grsz11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Grsz11](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grsz11)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2015, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-this-is-totally-going-to-kill-bring-your-clock-to-school-day/731454/122 "2015-09-16T22:03:20Z")
Texas…where racist white conservatives can follow the military around with automatic weapons, but no way in hell can a Muslim kid bring an invention to school. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2015, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-this-is-totally-going-to-kill-bring-your-clock-to-school-day/731454/123 "2015-09-16T22:32:30Z")
> [@Enderw24](#): > > I too would agree that it’s appropriate to talk to your kids about not taking prohibited items to school. > > What does that have to do with this situation? I suppose it would fall under > [@](#): > >  Any articles not generally considered to be weapons, including school supplies, when the principal or designee determines that a danger exists. Which as I read it means we can bust you for anything we want because we feel like it. > [@cutman74](#): > > Did anyone notice that only synthetic marijuana was mentioned? there was nothing said about real marijuana or other drugs. One of the side effects of marijuana is paranoia. Real marijuana is covered under a separate policy of drugs. “Synthetic Marijuana” presumably has to be handled separately because some students might try to argue that they are not technically drugs but are instead just incense or some such rot. ---
**Author:** ![Mtgman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5a626/32.png) [@Mtgman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mtgman)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2015, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-this-is-totally-going-to-kill-bring-your-clock-to-school-day/731454/124 "2015-09-16T22:49:45Z")
To be fair, this is the same Irving Texas that hosts the [Islamic Center of Irving, with two mosques in the city.](http://irvingmasjid.org/index.php/home/our-location) As a direct exercise of government multi-culturalism and tolerance, the city recently [installed a statue of Gandhi in a public park](http://www.dallasnews.com/lifestyles/arts/columnists/rick-brettell/20150128-masterpiece-of-the-month-gandhi-statue-in-irving.ece), over protests from various constituencies. These kinds of stupid events occur because Irving is [more diverse](http://www.census.gov/quickfacts/table/RHI125214/00,4837000,2507000,3651000) than many cities, even ones held up as examples of multiculturalism and tolerance. There were cities in the North which weren’t the sites of race riots in black ghettos. They didn’t even HAVE black ghettos! Was that because they were color-blind and tolerant? No, it often meant they were Sundown Towns and didn’t have inter-racial friction because they didn’t even have inter-racial populations. That having been said, I’m on record as saying the school and certainly the police, handled this in an unacceptable way. I’m also going to be writing the school and city about this. But racially charged events happen more often in more integrated areas, and as someone who likes the racial diversity of my community I’m willing to accept some isolated incidents like this as long as we learn from them and make it a better place in the future. Enjoy, Steven ---
**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2015, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-this-is-totally-going-to-kill-bring-your-clock-to-school-day/731454/125 "2015-09-16T23:33:35Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Well, he’s invited to visit the [White House](https://twitter.com/potus?lang=en), which is probably better than a medal. The nasty side of me wants this to be a question during the Republican debate tonight: “Would you, like President Obama, invite Ahmed Mohammed to visit the White House?” Would love to see the side-steps and hem-haws on that. But probably not. ---
**Author:** ![bosbfdsfd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ba8739/32.png) [@bosbfdsfd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bosbfdsfd)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2015, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-this-is-totally-going-to-kill-bring-your-clock-to-school-day/731454/126 "2015-09-16T23:39:19Z")
If Muslims are upset over people overreacting to bomb-like things in their possession, they can stop blowing themselves up every five minutes. But since the love and admiration that liberals shower them with is directly related to how many innocent victims they kill, why would they stop? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2015, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-this-is-totally-going-to-kill-bring-your-clock-to-school-day/731454/127 "2015-09-16T23:42:12Z")
> [@bosbfdsfd](#): > > If Muslims are upset over people overreacting to bomb-like things in their possession, they can stop blowing themselves up every five minutes. But since the love and admiration that liberals shower them with is directly related to how many innocent victims they kill, why would they stop? You give _stupid_ new meaning. Also: _irrational_, _bigoted_, _ignorant_, and _jackasss_. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2015, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-this-is-totally-going-to-kill-bring-your-clock-to-school-day/731454/128 "2015-09-16T23:43:52Z")
You know, as long as you keep using multisyllabic words, he’s never going to understand you. Not like the goat-fucker understands much anyway, but still… ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2015, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-this-is-totally-going-to-kill-bring-your-clock-to-school-day/731454/129 "2015-09-16T23:44:19Z")
> [@bosbfdsfd](#): > > If Muslims are upset over people overreacting to bomb-like things in their possession, they can stop blowing themselves up every five minutes. But since the love and admiration that liberals shower them with is directly related to how many innocent victims they kill, why would they stop? Clocks aren’t “bomb-like”. But thank you for providing fresh input from the “arrest 14 year old kids who are curious about electronics” perspective. That side had been lacking from this thread. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2015, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-this-is-totally-going-to-kill-bring-your-clock-to-school-day/731454/130 "2015-09-16T23:45:55Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > I suppose it would fall under > > Which as I read it means we can bust you for anything we want because we feel like it. Nope, as I understand it, there was no danger and that was determined more or less immediately. The allegation was that he brought a hoax device. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2015, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-this-is-totally-going-to-kill-bring-your-clock-to-school-day/731454/131 "2015-09-16T23:58:30Z")
> [@bosbfdsfd](#): > > If Muslims are upset over people overreacting to bomb-like things in their possession, they can stop blowing themselves up every five minutes. But since the love and admiration that liberals shower them with is directly related to how many innocent victims they kill, why would they stop? The only reasonable response: > [@](#): > > [WANDA](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0095159/?ref_=ttqt_qt_tt): > To call you stupid would be an insult to stupid people! I’ve known sheep that could outwit you. I’ve worn dresses with higher IQs. But you think you’re an intellectual, don’t you, ape? ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2015, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-this-is-totally-going-to-kill-bring-your-clock-to-school-day/731454/132 "2015-09-16T23:59:49Z")
> [@bosbfdsfd](#): > > If Muslims are upset over people overreacting to bomb-like things in their possession, they can stop blowing themselves up every five minutes. But since the love and admiration that liberals shower them with is directly related to how many innocent victims they kill, why would they stop? You take ‘ignorant troll’ to 11… really, you really fucking do. ---
**Author:** ![bosbfdsfd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ba8739/32.png) [@bosbfdsfd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bosbfdsfd)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2015, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-this-is-totally-going-to-kill-bring-your-clock-to-school-day/731454/133 "2015-09-17T00:03:26Z")
Insulting me won’t suddenly make Muslims stop terrorizing the rest of the world, nor will it make liberals’ love affair with them any less stupid, but go ahead if it makes you feel better. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2015, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-this-is-totally-going-to-kill-bring-your-clock-to-school-day/731454/134 "2015-09-17T00:03:46Z")
> [@D\_Odds](#): > > The only reasonable response: Actually, no. The only reasonable response is to ignore him. Every time someone, such as you or **Monty** , just calls him stupid \*\*bosbfdsfd \*\*becomes more convinced that his genius debating skills and killer points are getting under the skin of the libtards. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2015, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-this-is-totally-going-to-kill-bring-your-clock-to-school-day/731454/135 "2015-09-17T00:06:39Z")
> [@simster](#): > > You take ‘ignorant troll’ to 11… really, you really fucking do. “To infinity…and beyond!” ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2015, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-this-is-totally-going-to-kill-bring-your-clock-to-school-day/731454/136 "2015-09-17T00:07:59Z")
> [@bosbfdsfd](#): > > If Muslims are upset over people overreacting to bomb-like things in their possession, they can stop blowing themselves up every five minutes. No. Muslims upset over people overreacting over “bomb-like” [sic] things in their possession cannot stop blowing themselves up, **by the fucking definition of blowing themselves up**. I mean, that’s about the least stupid of the stupidity in what you said, but it still counts. ---
**Author:** ![aaelghat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c5a1d2/32.png) [@aaelghat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aaelghat)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2015, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-this-is-totally-going-to-kill-bring-your-clock-to-school-day/731454/137 "2015-09-17T00:08:51Z")
What I would like to know more about, are the actions of the engineering teacher that Ahmed first showed the clock to. The engineering teacher clearly knew it was a clock. Did the administration talk to him prior to calling the police? Did he stand up for Ahmed at all? I would be disappointed if he didn’t attempt to be the voice of reason, considering that it sounds like Ahmed made the clock to show him in particular. ---
**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2015, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-this-is-totally-going-to-kill-bring-your-clock-to-school-day/731454/138 "2015-09-17T00:08:53Z")
> [@bosbfdsfd](#): > > If Muslims are upset over people overreacting to bomb-like things in their possession, they can stop blowing themselves up every five minutes. But since the love and admiration that liberals shower them with is directly related to how many innocent victims they kill, why would they stop? Thanks for your input, but adults are talking now. Go outside and play. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2015, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-this-is-totally-going-to-kill-bring-your-clock-to-school-day/731454/139 "2015-09-17T00:09:19Z")
> [@bosbfdsfd](#): > > Insulting me won’t suddenly make Muslims stop terrorizing the rest of the world, nor will it make liberals’ love affair with them any less stupid, but go ahead if it makes you feel better. Since Muslims make up 23% of the world population - if they, as a cohesive group, wanted to terrorize the world - there would be very little to stop them. > [@](#): > > World Muslim population by percentage (Pew Research Center, 2014). Muslims constitute the world’s second largest religious group. According to a 2010 study and released January 2011, Islam has 1.57 billion adherents, making up over 23% of the world population. Its actually insulting to trolls to call you one - you’re the kind of troll that other trolls walk away from and pretend they don’t know… ---
**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2015, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-this-is-totally-going-to-kill-bring-your-clock-to-school-day/731454/140 "2015-09-17T00:10:20Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > You give _stupid_ new meaning. Also: _irrational_, _bigoted_, _ignorant_, and _jackasss_. You are wrong, you know. Jackasses at least serve useful purposes at times. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-this-is-totally-going-to-kill-bring-your-clock-to-school-day/731454.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-this-is-totally-going-to-kill-bring-your-clock-to-school-day/731454.md?page=8)