The reason I didn’t know he was on TV is simple enough. He’s on FOX, which I pretty much refuse to watch.
Fucking hilarious.
Now can we please get back to the amazing clock a 14 year old invented? And how stupid Texas is?
Yes, I saw the clock in question, in the pencil case. What about it?
Pardon me, but I don’t recall anyone in this thread claiming that the clock was any kind of technological marvel or of insulting any Texans other than the principal, teacher, and cops involved in this imbroglio. Perhaps it’s my memory failing as I get older.
Or perhaps your comment is a straw man.
Did you see the exposed electrical connections?
Did you see the power transformer?
Did you see the AC power cord?
Are you aware that exposed electrical connections are both a fire and shock hazard?
This timing device (aka clock) also has a 9vdc connector but no 9vdc battery connected to it.
It’s been reported that the kid plugged his timing device/clock into an electrical outlet. That was when the English teacher heard it beep, and the beep is why the English teacher began asking questions.
No, it hasn’t.
Unfortunately, it has. The reporting has been pretty poor in detail about what happened at the school. The early report did say that Ahmed’s clock alarm went off while it was in his backpack after he had “plugged it in”. Sloppy reporting, because if he’d plugged it in during English class, he’d have to have it out of his backpack, open and near a wall outlet.
Also, our brilliant piece of entryway hardware, doorhinge, is basing his “no battery” theory on the photograph posted by the city of the pencil case open on a desktop. Because obviously that must be an accurate reproduction of the state of the clock when it was in Ahmed’s backpack, right?
Combination of lazy/stupid reporting and confirmation bias.
Police said the student had the briefcase in his English class, where he plugged it into an electrical outlet and it started to make noise.
According to police, Mohamed plugged the wires in his Vaultz pencil box into an electric socket on a classroom wall during English class.
In the sixth period he apparently, without the English teachers knowledge plugged the device into the wall with the intent to set off the timer on the device.
<sigh> Why do you argue against this stuff?
Local news says:
xenophon41, what exactly are you basing the “must have been a battery” theory on though? We see a plug, we don’t see a battery, local news reports that the police say it was plugged in…
I’m trying to find a full video of the press conference, but the 2 minutes that are out there make no mention of the beeping.
Ahmed: um the teacher, the clock in fact was plugged in during the classroom, so it didn’t go off in my backpack, it was plugged in, and i set a timer on there and i showed a student next to me, and uh, it went off, and the teacher looked around and said “what was that noise”, and i just unplugged it immediately
So - no, it was not beeping in his backpack.
Let’d try s little logic here. Remember the clock beeping in class. Said beeping drew attention to it? Do you think Ahmed plugged it in to a wall socket before he sat down, or used a 9v battery? Choose one.
The stupid, it burns
Ah, thanks Terr. So Ahmed admits it was plugged in. There you have it.
eta: Furthermore the beeping wasn’t an accident, it was intentional. There was some debate about that upthread, now it’s been cleared up.
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As I showed you Ahmed admitted in his interview, he plugged it into a wall socket.
Ahmed “the clock-making teen” Mohamed says it was plugged in.
So he did have it plugged in during English class. But it wasn’t in 6th period; that’s when he was called out of class. English was his second period. Teacher confiscated his device (as he should’ve due to the distraction) and it was “several hours later during 6th period” when police pulled him out of class.
Gotta say, the more complete story doesn’t make the school administration or the police look any smarter. They say they cuffed him, took him to juvie and fingerprinted him because “He kept maintaining it was a clock but there was no broader explanation.” (Maybe they wanted an electronics lesson? Or they wondered where the big hand and little hand went to?)
I have no such theory. I responded to doorhinge’s theory that there was “no battery” which was apparently based on a photo taken after the incident.
Tough choice. :rolleyes:
I chose Ahmed “the clock-making teen” Mohamed, in the classroom, with the wall socket.
What did I win? 
He plugged it in?!? Oh my.
A person could have fun going back through many assertions made in this thread that are now blown to pieces. If a person wanted to.
The added details about the use of the clock during English class, as admitted by Ahmed, make it clear the kid needed to be disciplined about the disruptive behavior. Behavior that was a little worse than just showing off a toy or game to other students; this was a home-built electrical device he had no business plugging in outside of a supervised lesson, much less in an unrelated class. So I kind of agree with a short suspension for that (I’d probably have gone with an in-school suspension, but even so, something more than a ‘talking to’).
If my son had done something like that, I’d have expressed my own disappointment and exercised my own corrective plan. However, the cuffing and fingerprinting and trip to juvie are completely separate from the school discipline. As a father, all my anger and disgust would be transferred to the idiots who called the police and to the police who’d criminalized my son for the clock that he said was a clock and that they knew was a clock.
And if my son had been brown skinned and named “Ahmed Mohamed” I’d for damn sure know why he was treated that way.
Assertions about the original Dallas Morning News story posted in the OP?