# RO: Woman Raped by Police Officer

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-woman-raped-by-police-officer/567957>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 17, 2011, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-woman-raped-by-police-officer/567957 "2011-01-17T16:51:09Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-woman-raped-by-police-officer/567957/61 "2011-01-18T07:17:10Z")

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> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#):
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> Seriously, can anyone confirm that 1 in 4 women are raped in their lifetime? Myrna, is that in the U.S.? Or is that what your post even meant? Someone enlighten me. I failed at googling this.

“1 in 4 women get raped” would not directly imply “1 in 4 men is a rapist”. Gangbangs would drive the amount of rapists up, serial rapists would drive it down. Different statistic.

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**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-woman-raped-by-police-officer/567957/62 "2011-01-18T07:17:29Z")

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So I’m in bed reading this. I get to **Autolycus** ’s Rape Around The Clock and start laughing out loud but trying hard to stifle it so as not to wake my bedmate. But couldn’t so I woke him anyway. Of course he wants to know what’s so funny. I say out of context it won’t be funny. He rolls back over. I keep reading and start laughing harder. He turns back and says will you at least tell me subject of the humor…

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**Author:** ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-woman-raped-by-police-officer/567957/63 "2011-01-18T07:34:21Z")

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> [@pricciar](#):
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> These stories are the worst. The police in most areas have a hard enough job getting the public to trust them. Dirty cops make the job even more difficult. Dirty cops who rape women make it pretty much impossible. Who do you call for help when you don’t even know if you can be safe when they come by? Sure, the rotten apples are a minority. But, that minority is a hell of a lot easier to see. What an horrific situation.

The problem is that the rotten apples apparently _aren’t_ a minority. The cops who would turn a blind eye to such behavior are almost as much of the problem as the perpetrators themselves.

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**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 11:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-woman-raped-by-police-officer/567957/64 "2011-01-18T11:28:22Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> after which he raped her without a condom.

Do many rapists use a condom? They get in the way enough with consensual sex, it’d really cramp my raping style.

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**Author:** ![SecondJudith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@SecondJudith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SecondJudith)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 11:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-woman-raped-by-police-officer/567957/65 "2011-01-18T11:37:28Z")

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> [@pedescribe](#):
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> No, this is…not normal. Bizarre, even.

Not really for the SDMB, sadly.

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**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-woman-raped-by-police-officer/567957/66 "2011-01-18T13:26:17Z")

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Corollary: When pitted, don’t create a rape thread about it.

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**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-woman-raped-by-police-officer/567957/67 "2011-01-18T13:58:17Z")

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Corollary to the corollary: When you’re neck deep in a rape hole, stop fucking.

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**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-woman-raped-by-police-officer/567957/68 "2011-01-18T14:00:56Z")

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Wasn’t there a BBC series called “Rape Hole of the Bailey?”

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-woman-raped-by-police-officer/567957/69 "2011-01-18T14:07:16Z")

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> [@amanset](#):
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> Do many rapists use a condom? They get in the way enough with consensual sex, it’d really cramp my raping style.

Good way to keep the DNA evidence to a minimum, though.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-woman-raped-by-police-officer/567957/70 "2011-01-18T14:23:46Z")

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> [@amanset](#):
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> Do many rapists use a condom? They get in the way enough with consensual sex, it’d really cramp my raping style.

Some do. Keeps semen out of the vagina, which obviously helps your defense if you get picked up.

ETA: **Scumpup** , that was _Rumpole of the Bailey_. Unless you’re being facetious. Well, even then, actually.

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-woman-raped-by-police-officer/567957/71 "2011-01-18T14:36:19Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> ETA: **Scumpup** , that was _Rumpole of the Bailey_. Unless you’re being facetious. Well, even then, actually.

Its sounds pretty good if you say it in a Scooby Doo voice though.

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**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-woman-raped-by-police-officer/567957/72 "2011-01-18T14:37:54Z")

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The incident described in the OP is outrageous, and I don’t want to sound heartless (although that would be hard in this thread)… but is there any evidence the woman’s accusations are true? Did the hospital find evidence that a rape occurred? Did the boyfriend corroborate the story? I know about the Thin Blue Line, but it just seems that there were an awful lot of people involved for no one to defend the woman or blow the whistle if her description of events was accurate. The fact that they laughed at her is difficult to believe.

Of course if it _is_ true, it’s incredibly heinous.

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**Author:** ![elmwood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmwood/32/3060_2.png) [@elmwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elmwood)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-woman-raped-by-police-officer/567957/73 "2011-01-18T15:22:05Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> That’s so racist. You just made MLK cry. _In his grave._

That’s next month.

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-woman-raped-by-police-officer/567957/74 "2011-01-18T15:38:02Z")

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> [@Autolycus](#):
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> The “R” standing for ‘ridiculous’?

Recreational, technically speaking: RO is when you’re pissed off about something that doesn’t in any way affect you directly.

> [@marshmallow](#):
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> But the part where the other officers _laugh_ at her, don’t check her claims out, and just let her stew in a cell is serious nightmare fuel.

Doesn’t do us much good to have procedures in place to deal with accusations like this when everybody just ignores them with absolutely no repurcussions.

> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> ETA: Oh dear. I’m going to hell.

It was worth it. See also: “Rape around the Clock.”

> [@Skammer](#):
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> but is there any evidence the woman’s accusations are true?

The only thing that’s up for debate is whether or not the sex that happened when the officer and the woman were alone in the house was consensual.

The officer had met the woman before, when he pulled her over. His original claim was that he’d had consensual sex with her then, but not after the 911 call; he then changed his story, saying that they hadn’t had sex after the traffic stop but they had after the 911 call (i.e., corroborating her story, but making it consensual instead of rape). The officer in question has numerous previous infractions on his record, including mistreating a prisoner, lying, and a two-day suspension for “failing to conform to and abide by the criminal laws in effect in the state of Wisconsin.”

The IA detective appeared to believe her. The DA’s office believed her account but didn’t think they’d be able to prosecute it. A whole string of procedures that are supposed to be followed in exactly this sort of scenario were just skipped (e.g., a supervisor should have been summoned to the scene as soon as she made the first accusation of rape). The woman was left in jail for almost 12 hours before she was taken to a hospital for treatment and evidence collection.

Really, if you have any doubt whatsoever that this shitstain is a rapist, just go read the full article.

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-woman-raped-by-police-officer/567957/75 "2011-01-18T16:49:23Z")

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> [@elmwood](#):
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> That’s next month.

I was actually thinking it was February. Why must you crush my hopes and dreams?

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-woman-raped-by-police-officer/567957/76 "2011-01-18T17:43:34Z")

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Ummmm…next month is February, isn’t it? Or have I bought a defective calendar again?

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-woman-raped-by-police-officer/567957/77 "2011-01-18T17:45:23Z")

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She thought it was February right now.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-woman-raped-by-police-officer/567957/78 "2011-01-18T18:02:08Z")

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It’s February SOMEWHERE! _\<toke\>_

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-woman-raped-by-police-officer/567957/79 "2011-01-18T18:09:05Z")

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> [@PlainJain](#):
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> So I’m in bed reading this. I get to **Autolycus** ’s Rape Around The Clock and start laughing out loud but trying hard to stifle it so as not to wake my bedmate. But couldn’t so I woke him anyway. Of course he wants to know what’s so funny. I say out of context it won’t be funny. He rolls back over. I keep reading and start laughing harder. He turns back and says will you at least tell me subject of the humor…

You don’t happen to have any film of that do you?

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-woman-raped-by-police-officer/567957/80 "2011-01-18T18:12:23Z")

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> [@monstro](#):
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> Note to self: If raped, don’t create a Pit thread about it.

> [@DiosaBellissima](#):
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> No shit.

_I_ say, if raped, Pit away and good luck to you. But this thread was more “OMFG \*someone \*got raped _somewhere_, ain’t it awful!” and it seems to have been a case of going once too often to the well. Hopefully the difference is clear.

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