# Robert Kennedy, Jr. - Dolt or Moron?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robert-kennedy-jr-dolt-or-moron/717638>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 14, 2015, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robert-kennedy-jr-dolt-or-moron/717638 "2015-04-14T13:16:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robert-kennedy-jr-dolt-or-moron/717638/81 "2015-04-16T12:55:39Z")

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> [@Haberdash](#):
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> But, recognizing the full history of the antivax idiocy will have to include an assessment of the trial lawyers who conspired with Andrew Wakefield to create a fradulent study, and the anti-tort reform forces] who made this profitable and possible.

In what way did the British lawyers group that paid Wakefield participate in designing and carrying out fraudulent research? I am also unaware of any failed tort reform in Britain that would have deterred his sleazy behavior.

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> It will also have to include the fact that the Kennedy name and RFKJ’s prominent place in the antivax movement, where he has flogged “vaccines=autism” and called for legal action against vaccine manufacturers, have been a fixture for over a decade and have had a much greater role than Rand Paul, a person no one had heard of before 2010, saying “vaccines should be voluntary” one time.

Uh, Paul said [a bit more than that](http://www.politico.com/story/2015/02/rand-paul-vaccines-114845.html#ixzz3XTZiRJv6).

_“Paul responded that he has “heard of many tragic cases of walking, talking normal children who wound up with profound mental disorders after vaccines”_

And I remind you that RFK Jr., jerkish ninny that he is, has not held elective office, unlike the Republicans I previously mentioned who have said things equally stupid.

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**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robert-kennedy-jr-dolt-or-moron/717638/82 "2015-04-16T15:41:40Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> And if he does, it wil be more than **Yoggie** ever did.
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> Regards,  
> Shodan

The correct shorthand of my name is **Yogi** or **YoSo** , ok Shoddy? 😃

Anyways, I’d like someone to please quote the actual sentence where I said I didn’t think RFKJr is an idiot. If conservatives can actually read, they’ll realize the subject of my post was mostly the reliability of Fox News.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robert-kennedy-jr-dolt-or-moron/717638/83 "2015-04-16T15:46:29Z")

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I’m not sure “reliability” is the precise word. Rather like measuring the “chastity” of a two dollar back-passage waterfront Shanghai whore.

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**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robert-kennedy-jr-dolt-or-moron/717638/84 "2015-04-16T15:53:16Z")

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Using so many words is a liberal plot! Something we all know I’m not a part of

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robert-kennedy-jr-dolt-or-moron/717638/85 "2015-04-16T16:11:11Z")

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> [@YogSosoth](#):
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> The correct shorthand of my name is **Yogi** or **YoSo** , ok Shoddy? 😃

Actually the correct shorthand of your name is “that half-gallon of curdled vole semen who wouldn’t recognize a fact if it were plainer than the syphilitic lesions on the anus of his favorite sheep”, but I wanted to be clear.

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> Anyways, I’d like someone to please quote the actual sentence where I said I didn’t think RFKJr is an idiot. If conservatives can actually read, they’ll realize the subject of my post was mostly the reliability of Fox News.

No, because you’re stupid.

RFK Jr. is an idiot - you’re an idiot.  
RFK Jr. is a leftwing knuckle walker - you’re a left-wing knuckle walker.  
RFK Jr. is anti- vax - you are anti-reality.

Look - print this message off on paper, soak the paper overnight in warm water. fill an enema bag with what is left, and then inject it into the source of your political ideas. That might help you bypass the filter between you and any thought expressible on a third-grade level or above.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robert-kennedy-jr-dolt-or-moron/717638/86 "2015-04-16T16:24:43Z")

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He means that you shine out like a shaft of gold when all around it is dark.

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**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robert-kennedy-jr-dolt-or-moron/717638/87 "2015-04-16T16:32:44Z")

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I’m half wondering if **Haberdash** is some sort of bot. He or she is clearly not responding to the actual content of this thread.

Although the responses are close enough that I have to conclude that he’s human, as puzzling as that conclusion is.

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**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robert-kennedy-jr-dolt-or-moron/717638/88 "2015-04-16T16:38:51Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> Actually the correct shorthand of your name is “that half-gallon of curdled vole semen who wouldn’t recognize a fact if it were plainer than the syphilitic lesions on the anus of his favorite sheep”, but I wanted to be clear.

_Wow_. That gets points for originality. And no slouch in the “style” department either.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robert-kennedy-jr-dolt-or-moron/717638/89 "2015-04-16T17:50:18Z")

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Thanks, you snot-sucking result of the unholy union of Donald Trump’s hairpiece and a diseased yak.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robert-kennedy-jr-dolt-or-moron/717638/90 "2015-04-16T17:51:04Z")

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What did a yak ever do to you?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robert-kennedy-jr-dolt-or-moron/717638/91 "2015-04-16T17:57:09Z")

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How do you think the yak got diseased in the first place?

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robert-kennedy-jr-dolt-or-moron/717638/92 "2015-04-16T18:21:58Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> What did a yak ever do to you?

It was a birther - that’s why she and Donald hit it off.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robert-kennedy-jr-dolt-or-moron/717638/93 "2015-04-16T21:28:30Z")

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Christie has finally stopped making an ass of himself on this issue.

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> [Chris Christie Embraces Vaccines Months After Saying Parents Should Have 'Measure Of Choice' | HuffPost Latest News](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/15/chris-christie-vaccines-new-hampshire_n_7072178.html)
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> New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (R) on Wednesday expressed his full support for vaccines for children, telling a woman who favors a conscientious belief objection that he “cannot be someone who supports voluntary vaccination.”
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> “Yeah, no you can’t count on me for that,” Christie said, garnering a round of applause from nearly 300 people gathered at a town hall in Londonderry, New Hampshire. “I would err on the side of protecting public health through vaccine unless that vaccine has proven to be harmful to the public.”

It’s about time you took a stand against dangerous and infectious diseases, you bird brained, pandering fuckhead. I swear to god they literally had an outbreak of measles locally the same damned day I gave birth to my youngest child. A local Jewish restaurant had to be shut down because two idiots from France brought measles with them.

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**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robert-kennedy-jr-dolt-or-moron/717638/94 "2015-04-16T21:31:41Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> Actually the correct shorthand of your name is “that half-gallon of curdled vole semen who wouldn’t recognize a fact if it were plainer than the syphilitic lesions on the anus of his favorite sheep”, but I wanted to be clear.

I’m at least a full gallon, where’d you get half gallon from? Oh and where I come from, we use liters as a measurement of volume. So say I am approximately 2 liters of curdled vole semen, yada yada yada

Also, can sheep even get syphilis? I thought that was a human disease, like being a conservative

> [@Shodan](#):
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> RFK Jr. is an idiot - you’re an idiot.  
> RFK Jr. is a leftwing knuckle walker - you’re a left-wing knuckle walker.  
> RFK Jr. is anti- vax - you are anti-reality.

You’re just mad because someone doesn’t agree with you. Its an affliction that a lot of conservatives, especially old ones about to die, have in spades. You would do well to lessen your anger because it would probably improve your life. And for the record, I’ve never walked on anyone’s knuckles before, though I have stepped on a few fingers

> [@Shodan](#):
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> Look - print this message off on paper, soak the paper overnight in warm water. fill an enema bag with what is left, and then inject it into the source of your political ideas. That might help you bypass the filter between you and any thought expressible on a third-grade level or above.

You’ve got a lot of anger. You should see somebody about that

> [@Shodan](#):
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> Regards,  
> Shodan

I like how you still say this. Its probably because you’re a conservative and don’t like change, so you’ll keep this in here regardless of appropriateness. I would forgive you if you left it out, I wouldn’t take it personally

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**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robert-kennedy-jr-dolt-or-moron/717638/95 "2015-04-16T23:09:40Z")

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> [@davidm](#):
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> I’m half wondering if **Haberdash** is some sort of bot.

Nah, I think he’s just some intellectually challenged blowfish who, before typing them, writes out his posts in crayon. On the monitor.

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**Post date:** [April 17, 2015, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robert-kennedy-jr-dolt-or-moron/717638/96 "2015-04-17T01:28:36Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Everyone here is saying Kennedy is a moron.

OK so some of us stopped at “dolt”. Because an actual moron does not think to capitalize on his (unearned) “progressive” bona fides to make things worse.

Some people just cannot take yes for an answer, our OP apparently is one of them. **Haberdash** , if you just want to pit liberals, pit liberals. RFK Jr.'s entitled nincompoopery should be a target in and of itself from \*both \*left and right.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2015, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robert-kennedy-jr-dolt-or-moron/717638/97 "2015-04-17T12:33:27Z")

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> [@YogSosoth](#):
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> Also, can sheep even get syphilis? I thought that was a human disease, like being a conservative

This was actually funny. Who helped you?

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2015, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robert-kennedy-jr-dolt-or-moron/717638/98 "2015-04-17T12:50:51Z")

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> [@YogSosoth](#):
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> Also, can sheep even get syphilis?

[It would appear so](http://discovermagazine.com/2008/sep/09-how-often-do-animals-get-stds).

_“Two or three of the major STDs have come from animals,” says Alonso Aguirre, a veterinarian and vice president for conservation medicine at Wildlife Trust. “We know, for example, that gonorrhea came from cattle to humans. Syphilis also came to humans from cattle or sheep many centuries ago, possibly sexually.”_

It would however be rude to postulate such a mechanism being responsible for RFK’s statements about vaccines.

“He majored in animal husbandry - until they caught him at it one day.” - Tom Lehrer.

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**Post date:** [April 17, 2015, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robert-kennedy-jr-dolt-or-moron/717638/99 "2015-04-17T18:00:20Z")

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Um… more importantly, can sheep _transmit_ syphilils? Asking for a friend.

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**Post date:** [April 17, 2015, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robert-kennedy-jr-dolt-or-moron/717638/100 "2015-04-17T18:05:55Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> Um… more importantly, can sheep _transmit_ syphilils? Asking for a friend.

**Hal Briston**?

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