# Robert Kraft

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robert-kraft/830060>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [February 23, 2019, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robert-kraft/830060 "2019-02-23T02:14:20Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![UCBearcats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/77aa72/32.png) [@UCBearcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UCBearcats)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2019, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robert-kraft/830060/1 "2019-02-23T02:14:20Z")

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Should he and forced to sell the Patriots if he is found guilty of soliciting a prostitute?

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2019, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robert-kraft/830060/2 "2019-02-23T02:33:39Z")

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What? That’s entirely a different matter.

I’m sure some people will say he should, but it’s up to the NFL, not anyone else.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2019, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robert-kraft/830060/3 "2019-02-23T02:37:10Z")

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I don’t see why he would be forced to sell the Patriots if he was found guilty of _killing_ a prostitute.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2019, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robert-kraft/830060/4 "2019-02-23T02:41:25Z")

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Business tycoons don’t do that, professional courtesy.

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**Author:** ![JXJohns](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jxjohns/32/469_2.png) [@JXJohns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JXJohns)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2019, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robert-kraft/830060/5 "2019-02-23T02:46:59Z")

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> [@UCBearcats](#):
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> Should he and forced to sell the Patriots if he is found guilty of soliciting a prostitute?

Uh, no.

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**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2019, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robert-kraft/830060/6 "2019-02-23T02:47:21Z")

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@PopeHat is Tweeting

“I’m just surprised an NFL owner would get a handjob in a pre-existing massage parlor rather than getting taxpayers to build him a new one.”

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2019, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robert-kraft/830060/7 "2019-02-23T02:50:02Z")

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> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#):
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> What? That’s entirely a different matter.
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> I’m sure some people will say he should, but it’s up to the NFL, not anyone else.

No one is claiming that the results of this post are binding. Of course it’s up to the NFL. So what?

I don’t think so. It’ll probably end up being a couple of misdemeanors for soliciting. He wasn’t doing the sex trafficking himself and it’s not even clear that the workers that he was were ever trafficked. This doesn’t warrant having to sell the team in my opinion.

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2019, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robert-kraft/830060/8 "2019-02-23T04:51:05Z")

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I would like to be first to give this event a name. Inflate-gate.

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**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2019, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robert-kraft/830060/9 "2019-02-23T05:05:07Z")

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> [@hajario](#):
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> This doesn’t warrant having to sell the team in my opinion.

He’ll very likely just get a nice fat fine from the NFL. His son Jonathan seems to run the franchise anyway, at the very worst he might have to surrender ownership to _him_. But selling the team? Nah.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2019, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robert-kraft/830060/10 "2019-02-23T05:55:41Z")

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Didn’t grasp that, come again?

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2019, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robert-kraft/830060/11 "2019-02-23T06:06:13Z")

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> [@Magiver](#):
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> I would like to be first to give this event a name. Inflate-gate.

Hasn’t that been done?  
I suggest Fellate-gate.

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2019, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robert-kraft/830060/12 "2019-02-23T06:19:52Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Hasn’t that been done?

No, you’re thinking of deflategate. Same team.

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2019, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robert-kraft/830060/13 "2019-02-23T06:56:21Z")

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Do owners get a championship ring? The Patriots just won their 6th, so I am guessing he wanted an “extra special” one?

Of all American football owners, I would have bet on Kronke being the one who got caught in such a situation, probably paying them money from Arsenal sale.

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**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2019, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robert-kraft/830060/14 "2019-02-23T07:56:53Z")

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Is getting a happy ending from a massage parlor that just got busted for trafficking worse or not worse than what Jerry Richardson was forced to sell over (being a sexist pig)?

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**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2019, 8:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robert-kraft/830060/15 "2019-02-23T08:35:02Z")

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id like to know if they were busted for trafficking how the hell were they staying open?

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2019, 9:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robert-kraft/830060/16 "2019-02-23T09:01:27Z")

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Didn’t the Los Angeles Clippers owner get forced to sell his team a few years ago because of some racist remarks he made? I think that’s what the OP is getting at.

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**Author:** ![UCBearcats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/77aa72/32.png) [@UCBearcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UCBearcats)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2019, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robert-kraft/830060/17 "2019-02-23T14:41:43Z")

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> Didn’t the Los Angeles Clippers owner get forced to sell his team a few years ago because of some racist remarks he made? I think that’s what the OP is getting at.

This is the kind of thing that I’m thinking of.

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2019, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robert-kraft/830060/18 "2019-02-23T15:06:41Z")

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What is the big deal about visiting a prostitute. In most of the developed world, sex work is either legalized or decriminalized already.

As far as human trafficking, if sex work were legal then it wouldn’t be as much of a problem. Thats like the government banning drugs, then street gangs take up drug distribution, then the government says ‘buying drugs support street gangs’. No shit, because your policies created that scenario.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2019, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robert-kraft/830060/19 "2019-02-23T15:40:46Z")

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> [@Wesley\_Clark](#):
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> What is the big deal about visiting a prostitute. In most of the developed world, sex work is either legalized or decriminalized already.
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> As far as human trafficking, if sex work were legal then it wouldn’t be as much of a problem. Thats like the government banning drugs, then street gangs take up drug distribution, then the government says ‘buying drugs support street gangs’. No shit, because your policies created that scenario.

Can I ask for cites for your assertions?

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2019, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robert-kraft/830060/20 "2019-02-23T16:28:04Z")

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> [@Hamlet](#):
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> Can I ask for cites for your assertions?

Which one?

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