# Robertson + Falwell: It's the Liberals' Fault . . . **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 13, 2001, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robertson-falwell-its-the-liberals-fault/81449 "2001-09-13T21:18:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![pesch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pesch/32/4925_2.png) [@pesch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pesch)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2001, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robertson-falwell-its-the-liberals-fault/81449/1 "2001-09-13T21:18:15Z")
From the Web site of the People For The American Way ([www.pfaw.org](http://www.pfaw.org)) Partial transcript of comments from the Thursday, September 13, 2001 edition of the “700 Club” JERRY FALWELL: And I agree totally with you that the Lord has protected us so wonderfully these 225 years. And since 1812, this is the first time that we’ve been attacked on our soil and by far the worst results. And I fear, as Donald Rumsfeld, the Secretary of Defense, said yesterday, that this is only the beginning. And with biological warfare available to these monsters - the Husseins, the Bin Ladens, the Arafats - what we saw on Tuesday, as terrible as it is, could be miniscule if, in fact - if, in fact - God continues to lift the curtain and allow the enemies of America to give us probably what we deserve. PAT ROBERTSON: Jerry, that’s my feeling. I think we’ve just seen the antechamber to terror. We haven’t even begun to see what they can do to the major population. JERRY FALWELL: The ACLU’s got to take a lot of blame for this. PAT ROBERTSON: Well, yes. JERRY FALWELL: And, I know that I’ll hear from them for this. But, throwing God out successfully with the help of the federal court system, throwing God out of the public square, out of the schools. The abortionists have got to bear some burden for this because God will not be mocked. And when we destroy 40 million little innocent babies, we make God mad. I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People For the American Way - all of them who have tried to secularize America - I point the finger in their face and say “you helped this happen.” PAT ROBERTSON: Well, I totally concur, and the problem is we have adopted that agenda at the highest levels of our government. And so we’re responsible as a free society for what the top people do. And, the top people, of course, is the court system. JERRY FALWELL: Pat, did you notice yesterday the ACLU, and all the Christ-haters, People For the American Way, NOW, etc. were totally disregarded by the Democrats and the Republicans in both houses of Congress as they went out on the steps and called out on to God in prayer and sang “God Bless America” and said “let the ACLU be hanged”? In other words, when the nation is on its knees, the only normal and natural and spiritual thing to do is what we ought to be doing all the time - calling upon God. PAT ROBERTSON: Amen ---
**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2001, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robertson-falwell-its-the-liberals-fault/81449/2 "2001-09-13T21:22:06Z")
Well, hey, when you’ve got an agenda to push, you have to take every opportunity. Fuckers. :mad: ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2001, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robertson-falwell-its-the-liberals-fault/81449/3 "2001-09-13T21:23:19Z")
Yeah, they’re a couple of schmeckelas, but did you really expect any thing less from them? ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2001, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robertson-falwell-its-the-liberals-fault/81449/4 "2001-09-13T21:27:10Z")
Interesting…for the first time in history, the fundamentalist demagogues of one faith have suggested that the fundamendalist demagogues of _another_ faith are doing God’s will: > [@](#): > > if, in fact - if, in fact - God continues to lift the curtain and allow the enemies of America to give us probably what we deserve. Mebbe Hillary was right about the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy!! :eek: ---
**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2001, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robertson-falwell-its-the-liberals-fault/81449/5 "2001-09-13T21:30:24Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Polycarp \* > **Interesting…for the first time in history, the fundamentalist demagogues of one faith have suggested that the fundamendalist demagogues of _another_ faith are doing God’s will…** Wow. Yeah, that is a new take on events. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2001, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robertson-falwell-its-the-liberals-fault/81449/6 "2001-09-13T21:31:24Z")
[hijack to say “hey!”] Hey, Poly, nice seein’ ya. Missed having you around. [/hijack to say “hey!”] ---
**Author:** ![Arden\_Ranger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b487fb/32.png) [@Arden\_Ranger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arden_Ranger)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2001, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robertson-falwell-its-the-liberals-fault/81449/7 "2001-09-13T21:32:14Z")
Good grief. What schmucks. ---
**Author:** ![Sealemon88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c68b51/32.png) [@Sealemon88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sealemon88)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2001, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robertson-falwell-its-the-liberals-fault/81449/8 "2001-09-13T21:32:21Z")
Nothing like some scumbags using a national tragedy to push their agenda to make me even MORE depressed about this. This just in: PETA announced that sharks flew the jets to get revenge on us. ---
**Author:** ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2001, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robertson-falwell-its-the-liberals-fault/81449/9 "2001-09-13T21:32:36Z")
Three months ago I was still working for People For the American Way, in the NY office. For the first time since then, I wish I were back. ---
**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2001, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robertson-falwell-its-the-liberals-fault/81449/10 "2001-09-13T21:34:06Z")
I have friends in Lynchburg, VA, and you all might be interested to know that there was a blood drive held at Falwell’s Liberty University the other day. Pretty nice, right? Well, nice except for the fact that not one of the hundreds of students or people from the community who showed up were allowed to give blood until Falwell finished his **two hour** public address. Many prospective donors gave up and went home in frustration. All that man cares about are the words coming out of his freakishly huge head. ---
**Author:** ![rushtopher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e47774/32.png) [@rushtopher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rushtopher)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2001, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robertson-falwell-its-the-liberals-fault/81449/11 "2001-09-13T21:46:10Z")
Um, before I send this around can I get a cite from someone other than People for American Way? Sorry, its just that somebody will say to me its made up because it is a liberal cite. [700club.com](http://700club.com) does not have transcripts. ---
**Author:** ![pesch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pesch/32/4925_2.png) [@pesch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pesch)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2001, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robertson-falwell-its-the-liberals-fault/81449/12 "2001-09-13T23:03:42Z")
Sorry, that’s the best I can give you. People For American Way also sent this out as a press release to the major newspapers. It shows up, identified as such, alongside the news service stories (Associated Press, Reuters, etc.). Since we just got the press release, I don’t know if you’ll see anything more about this over the next few days. The sheer nerve of these ass-fucks totally get my goat. They don’t have the balls to put it up on their Web site for all to see, but they’ll whisper their bloody propaganda into the ears of their followers (who, after all, are supporting these fucks with their contributions). Someone should call them on it publicly, and see if they can take the heat of their convictions. Oh, and I’m sure the Pearl Harbor veterans are happy to know that they weren’t attacked “on our soil.” (Yes, I know Hawaii wasn’t a state until later.) ---
**Author:** ![Lionors](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c37758/32.png) [@Lionors](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lionors)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2001, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robertson-falwell-its-the-liberals-fault/81449/13 "2001-09-13T23:15:20Z")
Well, there’s one bit of consolation. From Falwell’s description, I’m thoroughly damned either way it goes…but if these are the types of people who are going to be wafting through the pearly gates, I certainly won’t be missing out if there’s a Heaven and I don’t go. Falwell is one of those lower forms of life that give the _true_ Christians I’ve met colonic spasms, and rightfully so; his so-called ‘Moral Majority’ was neither moral nor a majority, either. Just supports something I’ve thought for quite some time, which is that no doubt the Higher Power is thoroughly disgusted for the events/people/points of view which Its name is used to endorse. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2001, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robertson-falwell-its-the-liberals-fault/81449/14 "2001-09-14T00:56:51Z")
Robertson and Fallwell make Baby Jesus Cry. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_Harvey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac8455/32.png) [@Max\_Harvey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_Harvey)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2001, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robertson-falwell-its-the-liberals-fault/81449/15 "2001-09-14T01:05:09Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by rushtopher \* > \*\*Um, before I send this around can I get a cite from someone other than People for American Way? > > Sorry, its just that somebody will say to me its made up because it is a liberal cite.\*\* [Audio clip of Falwell](http://www.poenews.com/imgs/falwell.mp3) Sorry about the duplicate thread, pesch. (Actually I’m glad I didn’t see this one earlier, while I was at work. I can barely contain my rage here at home.) ---
**Author:** ![drm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a88e57/32.png) [@drm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drm)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2001, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robertson-falwell-its-the-liberals-fault/81449/16 "2001-09-14T01:27:32Z")
I think the most effective thing you can do to people like that is to just shake your head (and under any other circumstance laugh)… ---
**Author:** ![Semp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Semp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Semp)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2001, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robertson-falwell-its-the-liberals-fault/81449/17 "2001-09-14T01:40:37Z")
So if the assasination rule gets overturned, does that include internal threats as well? 😉 Seriously, though, if they did say that, I question who’s side they’re on. Maybe Jerry & Pat can be amongst the first bombs to drop. ---
**Author:** ![NutWrench](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nutwrench/32/20193_2.png) [@NutWrench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NutWrench)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2001, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robertson-falwell-its-the-liberals-fault/81449/18 "2001-09-14T02:39:55Z")
> [@](#): > > JERRY FALWELL: And, I know that I’ll hear from them for this. But, throwing God out successfully with the help of the federal court system, throwing God out of the public square, out of the schools. The abortionists have got to bear some burden for this because God will not be mocked. I saw them on TV last night. It’s word for word. Hard to believe, but I think he really IS that stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Tranquilis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tranquilis/32/3639_2.png) [@Tranquilis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tranquilis)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2001, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robertson-falwell-its-the-liberals-fault/81449/19 "2001-09-14T02:49:22Z")
I am now convinced that Pat & Jerry are _not_ Christian. I’ve suspected so for years, but this is the final proof. > [@](#): > > Mat 7:15 - 23 > Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. > > Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? > > Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. > > A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither [can] a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. > > Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. > > Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. > > Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. > > \*Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? > > And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.\* By the words of Christ, they are condemned. ---
**Author:** ![pantom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/34f0e0/32.png) [@pantom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pantom)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2001, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robertson-falwell-its-the-liberals-fault/81449/20 "2001-09-14T02:49:51Z")
Can we shoot them at Bin Laden from a height of oh, twenty thousand feet or so? Perhaps with a small nuclear device attached to their craniums? Can we? Please? [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robertson-falwell-its-the-liberals-fault/81449.md?page=2)