# Robin Hood **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 29, 2007, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robin-hood/402004 "2007-04-29T01:32:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![TV\_time](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f17d59/32.png) [@TV\_time](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TV_time)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2007, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robin-hood/402004/21 "2007-04-29T19:08:22Z")
[QUOTE=Captain\_C] Robin Hood, for my generation, will forever be Kevin Costner. And I weep because of that. [/QUOTE] Electro shock therapy can do wonders. Coming out of it, you can be introduced to the Errol Flynn version and you can live a worthwhile life and most of those nightmares will disappear. ---
**Author:** ![BarnOwl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e95f7d/32.png) [@BarnOwl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BarnOwl)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2007, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robin-hood/402004/22 "2007-04-29T21:11:55Z")
[QUOTE=ArchiveGuy] (1) _YDD_ was 4 years after _AoRH_. (2) Cagney was a [terrific dancer](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwslZZBk6Ag&mode=related&search=) (though distinctively non-traditional). [/QUOTE] I watched the clip. Fred Astaire he ain’t. But he’s damn better than I am. But then, all I can do is the Golden Slave in Sheherazade and a host of other ballet leads. 😃 Fact is, I got this ballet DVD from amazon: **The Kirov Celebrates Nijinsky**. It includes Sheherazade, Le Spectre de la Rose, Polovtsian Dances and Firebird. For my money (and I know squat about ballet), Sheherazade is the best of the lot. This gal, Svetlana Zakharova dances the lead and she’s hotter than a ho in heat. I swear. Married to the Shah, Sheher-baby is having an affair with Golden Slave, who, by the way, is very believeable as Sheherazade’s extramarital lover. The entire number is fantastic, and worth the price of the DVD. ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2007, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robin-hood/402004/23 "2007-04-29T21:46:38Z")
[QUOTE=ArchiveGuy] (1) _YDD_ was 4 years after _AoRH_. (2) Cagney was a [terrific dancer](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwslZZBk6Ag&mode=related&search=) (though distinctively non-traditional). [/QUOTE] He’s technically proficient, no doubt. But the rod-up-the-ass-all-the-way-to-his-neck style of dancing makes it just impossible for me to watch. He’s just so horribly, horribly stiff. When Savion Glover dances–or Danny Kaye or Bill Robinson or Fred Astaire or whoever else–their shoulders are looser and more dynamic, and are directly above their pelvis. Cagney dances like he’s being tossed out of a bar by an invisible bouncer who has him by the belt. ---
**Author:** ![burundi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3ec8ea/32.png) [@burundi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burundi)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2007, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robin-hood/402004/24 "2007-04-29T22:22:21Z")
_The Adventures of Robin Hood_ is one of my all-time favorite movies. It’s a great adventure, and I love how earnest and fun it is. And I’ll watch Errol Flynn in tights any day. **Barn Owl** , you should also check out _Captain Blood_, a fantastic swashbuckler featuring Errol Flynn and pirates. It just came out on DVD and it rawks. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2007, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robin-hood/402004/25 "2007-04-29T23:02:02Z")
[QUOTE=burundi] _The Adventures of Robin Hood_ is one of my all-time favorite movies. It’s a great adventure, and I love how earnest and fun it is. And I’ll watch Errol Flynn in tights any day. **Barn Owl** , you should also check out _Captain Blood_, a fantastic swashbuckler featuring Errol Flynn and pirates. It just came out on DVD and it rawks. [/QUOTE] We just saw it as a family last month. My 7 year old son loves Pirates, and I wanted him to see the most classic of Pirates Movies. Not as good as Robin Hood, but damn good and you even get Basil Rathbone & Olivia de Havilland again. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Rieux](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@Dr.Rieux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Rieux)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2007, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robin-hood/402004/26 "2007-04-29T23:23:32Z")
Now that you’ve seen _The Adventures of Robin Hood_, watch _Robin and Marian_. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2007, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robin-hood/402004/27 "2007-04-29T23:53:26Z")
[QUOTE=Captain\_C] Robin Hood, for my generation, will forever be Kevin Costner. [/QUOTE] True, but a [much better Robin Hood movie](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0102797/) was made that same year, with Patrick Bergin and Uma Thurman. ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2007, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robin-hood/402004/28 "2007-04-30T17:36:52Z")
[QUOTE=lissener] He’s technically proficient, no doubt. But the rod-up-the-ass-all-the-way-to-his-neck style of dancing makes it just impossible for me to watch. He’s just so horribly, horribly stiff. When Savion Glover dances–or Danny Kaye or Bill Robinson or Fred Astaire or whoever else–their shoulders are looser and more dynamic, and are directly above their pelvis. Cagney dances like he’s being tossed out of a bar by an invisible bouncer who has him by the belt. [/QUOTE] But this impression is almost exclusively based on his performance as Cohan, who Cagney was attempting to emulate in his dancing style. All you have to do is watch the “Shanghai Lil” number from _Footlight Parade_ to see that Cagney can be loose and limber and, in his sailor suit, wouldn’t look at all out of place next to Gene Kelly in _On the Town_. It’s still a bit of an acquired taste (it does evoke a marionette at times), but I’d take it any day over Kaye’s artless tomfoolery (he may hit his marks, but I never thought him much of a dancer). ---
**Author:** ![BarnOwl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e95f7d/32.png) [@BarnOwl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BarnOwl)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2007, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robin-hood/402004/29 "2007-04-30T17:47:36Z")
[QUOTE=ArchiveGuy] but I’d take it any day over Kaye’s artless tomfoolery (he may hit his marks, but I never thought him much of a dancer). [/QUOTE] Absolutely right. He had his shitty little 2-steps that he used all the time. And this isn’t sour grapes. When I was a kid, I adored Danny Kaye. At various Boys Club activities, I’d bring down the house with Tchaikovsky, Dinah (pronounced Deena) and Minnie the Moocher. But Danny was no dancer (although I didn’t know it at the time). ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2007, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robin-hood/402004/30 "2007-04-30T17:54:34Z")
The appropriate follow up to _The Adventures of Robin Hood_ is the BBC series \*Robin of Sherwood. \* (NOT the current series!) Very mystical and earthy, with a great soundtrack by Clannad. _Then_ watch _Robin and Marian_. ---
**Author:** ![BMalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@BMalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMalion)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2007, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robin-hood/402004/31 "2007-04-30T17:59:23Z")
[QUOTE=DSYoungEsq] Did you see the part where Bugs Bunny meets the Sherrif? That part always kills me!! … [/QUOTE] - D’ehhh, don’t you worry never fear Robin Hood will soon be here.\* ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2007, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robin-hood/402004/32 "2007-04-30T18:00:50Z")
[QUOTE=Captain\_C] Robin Hood, for my generation, will forever be Kevin Costner. [/QUOTE] Not Carey Elwes? 😉 PRINCE JOHN: Why should the people listen to you? ROBIN HOOD: Because, unlike **some** Robin Hoods, **I** can speak with an English accent! ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2007, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robin-hood/402004/33 "2007-04-30T18:03:53Z")
[QUOTE=ArchiveGuy] But this impression is almost exclusively based on his performance as Cohan, who Cagney was attempting to emulate in his dancing style. All you have to do is watch the “Shanghai Lil” number from _Footlight Parade_ to see that Cagney can be loose and limber and, in his sailor suit, wouldn’t look at all out of place next to Gene Kelly in _On the Town_. It’s still a bit of an acquired taste (it does evoke a marionette at times), but I’d take it any day over Kaye’s artless tomfoolery (he may hit his marks, but I never thought him much of a dancer). [/QUOTE] Could Cohan’s style have been truer to the traditions of Irish step dancing? That style is one of the roots of American tap. Although many Irish dancers don’t exactly dance like Michael Flatley. Of course, the other side of Tap came from Africa. Thus, the backbone that can bend! ---
**Author:** ![BMalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@BMalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMalion)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2007, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robin-hood/402004/34 "2007-04-30T18:04:37Z")
Of course, to my generation Robin Hood will always be Dick Gautier. ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2007, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robin-hood/402004/35 "2007-04-30T18:06:10Z")
[QUOTE=JThunder] For me, Robin Hood will always be the Disney version, accompanied by his foxy Maid Marian. [/QUOTE] "Robin Hood, Robin Hood, riding through the glen. Robin, Hood, Robin Hood, with his band of men. Feared by the Bad Loved by the Good Robin Hood, Robin Hood, Robin Hood! But I got to see the Errol Flynn version while still quite young. Yesterday, it was on TCM while the “new” Robin Hood ran on BBCAMERICA. ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2007, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robin-hood/402004/36 "2007-04-30T18:09:49Z")
What about Daffy Duck with his “buck and a quarter staff”? “Hah! Hah! Thrust! Parry!” ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2007, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robin-hood/402004/37 "2007-04-30T18:10:32Z")
[QUOTE=BMalion] Of course, to my generation Robin Hood will always be Dick Gautier. [/QUOTE] I had to look that up. I could not understand how Hymie could be Robin Hood to you. Regretfully, I never saw “When things were Rotten.” Jim ---
**Author:** ![BarnOwl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e95f7d/32.png) [@BarnOwl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BarnOwl)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2007, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robin-hood/402004/38 "2007-04-30T18:12:35Z")
[QUOTE=Bridget Burke] Could Cohan’s style have been truer to the traditions of Irish step dancing? That style is one of the roots of American tap. Although many Irish dancers don’t exactly dance like Michael Flatley. This never occurred to me. Thank you, **Bridget Burke**. So, maybe Cagney isn’t so bad, after all. ---
**Author:** ![cbawlmer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/71e660/32.png) [@cbawlmer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cbawlmer)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2007, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robin-hood/402004/39 "2007-04-30T18:29:47Z")
Nobody’s mentioned my favorite piece of trivia about this movie yet! Maid Marian’s horse, a lovely palomino, is better known as Roy Rogers’ horse Trigger. ---
**Author:** ![BMalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@BMalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMalion)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2007, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robin-hood/402004/40 "2007-04-30T18:34:47Z")
[QUOTE=Baker] What about Daffy Duck with his “buck and a quarter staff”? “Hah! Hah! Thrust! Parry!” [/QUOTE] Yoiks! and AWAY!!! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robin-hood/402004.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robin-hood/402004.md?page=3)