# Robins and Bluejays

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robins-and-bluejays/391044>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 6, 2007, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robins-and-bluejays/391044 "2007-02-06T04:13:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![merrily](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@merrily](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/merrily)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2007, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robins-and-bluejays/391044/21 "2007-02-07T01:33:41Z")

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[QUOTE=BrainGlutton]  
BTW, how do your relatives **know** robins never mate with bluejays? I mean, when a redbreast is feeling horny and there are no robin-hens around . . . 😉  
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Sounds like a job for Photoshop…who knows, you could end up on Snopes!

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2007, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robins-and-bluejays/391044/22 "2007-02-07T01:59:04Z")

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Try telling the relatives who spew this crap “Oh yeah, that’s right! And white pigeons don’t mate with black pigeons either, and yellow chickens don’t mate with brown ones! Oh wait, yes they do, you stupid bigoted dumbfuck.” Your dumbfuck relatives may not become enlightened, but you’ll probably feel better.

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**Author:** ![blondebear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blondebear/32/1022_2.png) [@blondebear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blondebear)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2007, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robins-and-bluejays/391044/23 "2007-02-07T02:13:28Z")

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Is this the right thread to bitch about that damn robin that starts singing outside my window at 4:45AM? Curse you, early bird!

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2007, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robins-and-bluejays/391044/24 "2007-02-07T02:14:52Z")

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It’s looking for a mate. Up to now it’s only met bluebirds.

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**Author:** ![Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spectre_of_pithecanthropus/32/12343_2.png) [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spectre_of_Pithecanthropus)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2007, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robins-and-bluejays/391044/25 "2007-02-08T20:16:05Z")

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[QUOTE=Monty]  
I hear it a lot from certain relatives.  
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Is it a proverbial saying in some language – Korean perhaps? I’ve never heard anyone say it in English or German.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2007, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robins-and-bluejays/391044/26 "2007-02-08T20:27:18Z")

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[QUOTE=blondebear]  
Is this the right thread to bitch about that damn robin that starts singing outside my window at 4:45AM? Curse you, early bird!  
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Racist.

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**Author:** ![According\_to\_Pliny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8e7dd6/32.png) [@According\_to\_Pliny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/According_to_Pliny)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2007, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robins-and-bluejays/391044/27 "2007-02-08T23:51:01Z")

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This is a great idea you have: Mate robins and blue jays. Add a white bird to the gene pool and get a star-spangled starling.

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**Author:** ![Rysdad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7cd45c/32.png) [@Rysdad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysdad)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2007, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robins-and-bluejays/391044/28 "2007-02-09T00:51:09Z")

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[QUOTE=MsRobyn]  
Well, shit. I know not to mate with a bluebird. They’re noisy and obnoxious. And while I know the genus name is “_Turdus_”, I take umbrage to that. 😛 😃

[sub]FTR, “Turdus” is Latin for “thrush”.[/sub]

Robin  
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Blue_jay_.

[Bluebirds](http://www.friolodging.com/bluebird/EasternBluebird_image_by_Wendell_Long.jpg) are kindly, little, sweet-singing creatures. Not like those cruel and evil [blue jays.](http://www.birding-peru.com/upload/picsfiles/blue%20jay4.jpg)

So, anyway, feel free to go out and hump all the bluebirds you’d like.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2007, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robins-and-bluejays/391044/29 "2007-02-09T00:54:43Z")

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[QUOTE=Monty]  
“The Robin doesn’t mate with the bluejay!”

Do you think uttering that makes you sound intelligent? Do you think it has any validity whatsoever to human relationships?

Well, it doesn’t! In the first place, robins and bluejays are different species. In the second place, humans constitute one species. There isn’t one human species in your hometown and a different species of human in your neighbor’s town. Shame youd didn’t learn that in college–or anywhere else for that matter.  
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No offense, **Monty** , but is that apropos of anything in particular, or are you just parodying **Aeschines**?

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**Author:** ![Rysdad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7cd45c/32.png) [@Rysdad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysdad)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2007, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robins-and-bluejays/391044/30 "2007-02-09T01:07:21Z")

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[QUOTE=According to Pliny]  
This is a great idea you have: Mate robins and blue jays. Add a white bird to the gene pool and get a star-spangled starling.  
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_groan_

Tri-color tit?

Patriotic pigeon?

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2007, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robins-and-bluejays/391044/31 "2007-02-09T01:29:07Z")

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[QUOTE=kaylasdad99]  
No offense, **Monty** , but is that apropos of anything in particular, or are you just parodying **Aeschines**?  
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I already made it clear in this thread what it’s apropros. To expand: I just spent 3 weeks of my vacation in the US and ten days of it were with relatives in Dixe. I got to hear the comment from my relatives there as they’re very afraid I’ll marry someone here (I live in Korea) or maybe someone of a different race back in the US. These relatives are racists, although they deny they are. It’s a racist comment meaning that Whites should only marry Whites, Blacks should only marry Blacks, Koreans should only marry Koreans, etc.

> [@Spectre of Pithecanthropus](#):
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> Is it a proverbial saying in some language – Korean perhaps? I’ve never heard anyone say it in English or German.

Yes, it’s a proverbial saying in English, specifically Dixie English. I’ve only heard it in English and never in any other language. I wouldn’t, however, be at all surprised if racists in other countries have their own particular version of this inanity.

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**Author:** ![chowder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@chowder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chowder)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2007, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robins-and-bluejays/391044/32 "2007-02-09T17:19:54Z")

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[QUOTE=BrainGlutton]  
BTW, how do your relatives **know** robins never mate with bluejays? I mean, when a redbreast is feeling horny and there are no robin-hens around . . . 😉  
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Well given the size of a robin to that of a bluejay I reckon the jay would suck the robin in and fart him out in half inch cubes if he (the robin) ever tried his luck.

just sayin’

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2007, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robins-and-bluejays/391044/33 "2007-02-09T21:53:42Z")

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[QUOTE=Monty]  
I already made it clear in this thread what it’s apropros. To expand: I just spent 3 weeks of my vacation in the US and ten days of it were with relatives in Dixe. I got to hear the comment from my relatives there as they’re very afraid I’ll marry someone here (I live in Korea) or maybe someone of a different race back in the US. These relatives are racists, although they deny they are. It’s a racist comment meaning that Whites should only marry Whites, Blacks should only marry Blacks, Koreans should only marry Koreans, etc.  
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Oh, okay. Sorry to have overlooked the earlier explanation, and thank you for taking the time again.

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**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2007, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robins-and-bluejays/391044/34 "2007-02-09T22:41:49Z")

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[QUOTE=DanBlather]  
That may be true, but the Batman mates with the Robin.  
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Only if he’s prepared.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2007, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robins-and-bluejays/391044/35 "2007-02-13T22:11:38Z")

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[QUOTE=chowder]  
Well given the size of a robin to that of a bluejay I reckon the jay would suck the robin in and fart him out in half inch cubes if he (the robin) ever tried his luck.

just sayin’  
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What if the respective genders were reversed?

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2007, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robins-and-bluejays/391044/36 "2007-02-13T22:41:17Z")

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Someone’s fucking birds? Ick.

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**Author:** ![chowder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@chowder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chowder)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robins-and-bluejays/391044/37 "2007-02-14T17:14:27Z")

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[QUOTE=BrainGlutton]  
What if the respective genders were reversed?  
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Well I guess that depends on how well blessed the jay was.

Big todger…splits robin straight down the middle

Small one…“Is it in yet” quoth the robin

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2007, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robins-and-bluejays/391044/38 "2007-04-13T13:00:32Z")

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In today’s _Deseret Morning News_ is [this very interesting article](http://www.deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,660211384,00.html). There are a few telling quotes in there and I’ll leave it to the reader to peruse the article at your leisure. What really impressed me the most, though, was this paragraph:

> [@](#):
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> Acceptance of interracial marriages is on the rise in Utah and nationally, Jacobson said, pointing to a 2000 New York Times survey, which found that 69 percent of whites said they approved of interracial marriage. In the West, the approval rate was 82 percent, compared to 61 percent in the South.

So, that means that in the South (where I grew up), 39% of the White people say “Inter-racial marriages are not acceptable.”

Cecil, you said it very well:

> [@](#):
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> It’s taking longer than we thought.

Too bad those statistics quoted above aren’t 100% acceptance in both the West and the South.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2007, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robins-and-bluejays/391044/39 "2007-04-13T13:04:54Z")

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[QUOTE=LifeOnWry]  
You know, sometimes I get the idea that the people who say things like “robins don’t mate wth bluejays” are the same people who say things like “God created Adam and EVE, not Adam and STEVE.”

I would just like to point out that they can’t have it both ways (because, really, that would be breaking ALL the rules.)  
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“Adam and Steve” would be the perfect name for a gay wedding boutique. Just sayin’.

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**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2007, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/robins-and-bluejays/391044/40 "2007-04-13T13:19:34Z")

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You know, I’ve never heard that quote about robins and bluejays. You learn something new every day.

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